SD was pretty good tonight, good to see that Ultimo will not only be in MSG, but will be at WrestleMania. The WGTT's parody of the APA was great, and they gave props to the late members of the West Texas Rednecks...fantastic.
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SD was pretty good tonight, good to see that Ultimo will not only be in MSG, but will be at WrestleMania. The WGTT's parody of the APA was great, and they gave props to the late members of the West Texas Rednecks...fantastic.
Hercules Hernandez passed away today. I remember him wielding his big ol' chain in the 80's and being one of the bigger guys at the time. Did he team up with someone??? Warlord or Paul Roma ..not sure. Was he a part of a group too?? Slick? Mr. Fuji?? My memory is a bit vague.
Yeah he teamed up with Roma to form Power and Glory. My general memory of him is very vague as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by raystorm
He wasn't very good. He was the classic bigman, but he would never fit overly well because he wasn't a big enough big guy. Definitely bigger, muscle wise, though. I used to root for him when I was a kid, but I was obsessed with bad guys.
I'm starting to barely remember him using his chain in a tug-a-war match with warrior.
yea, when he was a face, he didn't really have enough appeal. even as a heel, he still didn't have much appeal to him. i still rooted for him though, if only because my cousin was a fan of his.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
His finisher was a back breaker or something. But that's back when a bodyslam could be considered one of the biggest moves.
Excuse me for thinking WWE wouldn't fuck this main event, but isn't it Benoit vs. HHH at Mania?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
I haven't been paying attention.
Which belt?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
It's a triple threat match. HHH vs HBK vs Benoit. More retarded WWE writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
US Title.....Quote:
Which belt?
Oh brilliant. So that puts Chris Benoit at what, a 5% chance to actually win?
Thank you WWE for letting me keep my $50.
5% is too high. It's more at like 1.5% (this is the WWE we talking about). Maybe they'll let him win at the next PPV in Edmonton. Probably not, but you never know....Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
He more-or-less disappeared the night he tore his quad circa 3 years ago. I kinda miss him too, though this present HHH has been doing his damndest to erase any fond memories I had of the old one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
I know, I was really counting on Benoit/HHH or two matches of Benoit or Michaels/HHH, winner facing either Benoit or Michaels, depending on which didn't wrestle, to push me over on ordering it. Thank God there's actually a place here in Vegas where I can watch it for free (for five hours!).Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
i really couldnt get over how incredibly bad he looked last week. i havnt been able to watch raw or any of the ppv's for the past 3 months. last time i saw him he was looking worse but now he's just plain horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ragnarok the Red
The "this is your life mick foley" wasn't that funny imo.
I was kinda dissapointed.
Why was every match like 2 freaking minutes? And yeah, "This is your life Mick Foley" was not all that funny. Actually The Rock flat out was just not funny yesterday night. Lots of boring promos.
austin seemed pretty fucked up during his promo. droppin words and mashing them together left and right. then getting his beer at the end when he'd normally goto the turnbuckles......but instead kinda fell out of the ring.
*wipes tear from cheek*
This is the thing good Wrestlemanias are made of.
Just got on the web today for the first time in four days, and I'm floored that Brock will be gone after Mania... may he do well later on.
Isn't that just rumor?
As we all know - if it's on a rassilin website (or the internet) it must be real!
NFL? That just sounds odd. Is he qualified to play there?
He'll be back if he doesn't get crippled by a bad hit in the NFL.
I can't believe Brock is leaving, he's only friggin' 26 years old and is already one of the best power and technical wrestlers in the WWE, and has already put on numerous classic matches in the two or so years he's been in the company.
I can't believe he's giving all that up to go to the NFL, he's a great wrestler, and has already acheived so much in what seemed like was gonna be a legendary career. He must really have been disliking wrestling and the travelling associated with it to just walk away from it like this :(
/me mourns probably the last Brock sig I'll ever use
The first segment of "This is Your Life" was funny, but it fell apart after that. The Rock saved it.
Sad to see a Wrestler pushed to the top so quickly and be a major player wanting to quit when he's on top. Big mistake and disrespectful to the Business. He's set for life so he will never have to wrestle again, but it is still shocking to hear. I wonder who will go over at Mania? They are both done after the PPV, maybe out of Spite Vince will make Brock job to Goldberg?
i see this happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
Bah.
This is Vince we're talking about after all.
Vince will do a run in, and make both Brock and Goldberg job to HIM!
i see this happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
Can't blame Brock for hating the travel schedule...those guys are on the road something like 300 days a year. That has to totally suck. Plus, everyone but the very top main eventers have to pay all their own travel expenses (airfare, hotels, food, etc.).
Stop fooling fellas. They both gonna job to HHH.
I wouldn't be surprised if they were on like permanent jet lag. People I know in Quebec indy feds that have non-stop aches and pains just wrestling every 1 or 2 weeks. I couldn't even imagine wrestling 300 days a year and travelling all over the bleeping world. It's insanity that they can even put on a decent match every other day. I don't blame Lesner for quitting. It's better of he does something he loves instead of doing something as thankless and painful like wrestling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Shit, he was tapping Sable? Respect +1.Quote:
Originally Posted by PWTorch.com
LOL Cougar Catcher! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Fuck.
Fuck fuck fuck.
FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!11
I'm really upset right now...
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :mad: :mad: :curse: :curse:
haha! Korians pointing out someones homosexual tendencies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
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Lesnar was a phenemonal study, becoming one of the best all-around performers in the ring and behind the mic over the past 18 months since he first became a headliner.
:wtf: Lesnar is horrible on the mic.
"Vince, I beg of you. Give me Goldberg at Wrestlemania!" :lol:
both goldy and brock are leaving? wow.........didnt even read ANY of the rumors concerning both of them. suprises me. but i say good. brocks pretty much done what he needed to. how many people start off so young and get the strap like he did? any word how loong mick and the rock will stick around after sunday? id hate to continue watching raw with either of them gone.
The WWE has lost a number of wrestlers this year due to firings and or Wrestler's quitting. Taker, HHH, HBK and Angle due to injuries are all past their prime. Flair is retiring. Foley won't be around forever, Rock is invloved with Movies and not on the active roster.
The WWE if smart should elevate Orton, Booker T, RVD and Matt Hardy who seems to be in the doghouse right now, to Main Event level Scott Steiner where did his push go? Pushes are so sporatic it seems. With Brock and Goldberg gone It will give guys like Cena, Edge, Orton, Hardy, RVD, Eddy, Lance Storm, Benoit, Jericho a chance to finally get the proper push and treatment they deserve.
The WWE was in a similar position when Nash, Hall, Hogan and a bunch of ex WWE guys left. What they did was create new stars, which they should have be doing more on a consistant basis. The WWE has gives too much air-time to non Wrestlers which also is a problem. I'm excited about the prospects of ECW being brought back, it might give the edge the WWE needs to bring hardcore fans back.
Nitro always had an secret weapon which was the crusierweight division, which Vince hasn't used properly, partly due to change in Wrestling style ie no so many High spots.
Will Eddy and Benoit draw as champions remains to be seen, I sure hope so but they go against what Vince likes in a Champion. The WWE has gone downhill so much since the Monday Night Wars it is pretty sad. They have gotten stale and aren't trying anything different. The WWE needs a new era and direction which hopefuly will start after Mania.
you need to break that into paragraphs.
I can't believe non of you guys mentioned about how Vince is paying some guy to leak information to the internet so the sites seem pathetic. (more so)
This Brock thing is fake. C'mon, Brock dating Sable? He is married with a kid. They said on the broadcast a while back about how he had the week off to see his kid being born. Now Brock is leaving just like that for the NFL? He has no football training, just because he is big?
My bet is that Brock is in with Vince on this 'feed internet crap' stuff. He did stand up at the Smackdown meeting a few weeks ago and say that they will find out who the internet leakers are.
I'm pretty sure this is a hoax. (a damn good one too)
Also, you can't really 'quit' a contract. He signed his name on a sheet that says Vince can use him for 7 years.
*shrugs*
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Originally Posted by Kidnemo
I'm suprised that Jeremy didn't point out that Rock's wacky tatoo now extends over his chest and covers his left nipple... :chick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Seriously, how fucking big is that thing going to get?
This does suck, Brock's one of the WWE's best wrestlers. Too bad Vince treats all his workers like shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korly
He's out with a groin injury.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
What's this? Huh?Quote:
I'm excited about the prospects of ECW being brought back, it might give the edge the WWE needs to bring hardcore fans back.
Arrgh, I hate this "new" WWE style. I want to see crusierweights flying at each other head-first over concrete like in the old days.Quote:
Nitro always had an secret weapon which was the crusierweight division, which Vince hasn't used properly, partly due to change in Wrestling style ie no so many High spots.
Eddy's already getting credit for bringing up house show business. I think he'll be a money-drawing champ for sure.Quote:
Will Eddy and Benoit draw as champions remains to be seen, I sure hope so but they go against what Vince likes in a Champion.
Doesn't mean he's married. I think this is real. I've been hearing about Brock being unhappy for a while now.Quote:
Originally Posted by pixelassassin
And paying someone to leak false info to the net? Yeah, right. What the hell would be the point in fooling net people into thinking Brock was quitting? Please.
The Torch isn't some dirt sheet, kids. It's real.
Correct. Wade Keller is in touch with many WWE guys, he'd know if this was bullshit or not. The Torch isn't just some rumor site.Quote:
Originally Posted by MysteriousRacerC
pixelassassin, Dave Meltzer has reported this news, as has Fox Sports. Also, a pro wrestler cheat on his wife/girlfriend? What a shock...
well he's somoan right? ive seen shows on how they do those tattoos (with the pointed reeds and ink) and how long they take and such and they usually end up taking up much of the body. weather he'll go that far or not who knows. but i liked it much better the last time he showed up. the first we saw it was too small, then he showed up again with a little bit more and now it just seems rather large and unfinished. but if hes doing what i saw on the one show hes nowhere near being done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
It looks stupid. They're going to have to hire 5 million dollars worth of extra airbrushing to make that thing look normal in movies.
SD was okay tonight, it built to Mania nicely, and the WGTT's new attire looked awesome.
Edit - Some links from 411 to USA Today's site hav some fascinating stuff concerning drugs and steroids in wrestling - http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2004-...g-wilkes_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2004-...restling_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/2004-...ing-list_x.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/news/graphic...oids/flash.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/money/graphi...late/flash.htm
The colors are a lot better then them back with silver and purple.
Their black and white attire was their best since their original Team Angle singlets, which ruled. Just saw the Mania of WrestleMania, which sent chills down my spine listening to Austin, Angle, and J.R. talk about the hazards and damage done to themselves and others. Jesse Ventura added a lot to it with his fantastic narration. I can't wait to get the WM set, which will have this special (which was originally "WrestleMania: the Movie".)
Brock vs Goldberg was horrendous and boy did the fans let 'em have it! I loved all the chants.. I may be a bit tired of Austin, but that match made me appreciate someone like Austin who makes wrestling his life.
Enjoy life after wrestling Brock...
...molly... :( I still love molly anyways ... :lol:
hey...noticed the mario 1-up mushroom wristband Cena was wearing?? What was the other one??
I thought Undertaker was supposed to be the deadman again?? Adds a trench and a hat from a western and POW... deadman??!! ok..
Poor Molly
HOLYF UCK!
Benoit sucks.
Chris Beniot is the World Heavyweight Champ....
Eddie Guerrero is the WWE Champion.....
The wrestling gods have answered my prayers.. I can sleep well tonight..
That sucks about Molly, she didn't even have that much hair :(
Anyways, I find it hilarious that after 1-2 years they finally put in that guy from Tough Enough 3 on Raw.
HHH just tapped out clean...to Chris Benoit...to make him the World Heavyweight Champion.
It's official http://members.cox.net/ragnarokthered/hellfreeze.jpg has frozen over.
Not that I'm complaining, of course :)
yes he does. that superkick when he had the crossface on was GOLDEN!Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas
oh and i thought the taker looked like tim mcgraw when he had the hat on. anybody catch the one druid that caught on fire?
Benoit has been my favorite overall wrestler for a decade now, good to see him get a true world title reign. Can't wait to see the win for myself on the DVD set in a month, and in the WM video that will probably open Raw.
That was one of the WORST PPV's I have ever seen.
Granted it housed a couple good things.
I enjoyed: (in order)
1. Guerrero vs Angle (Sweet 4 star match)
2. Flair's Peoples Elbow
3. Christian vs Jericho
4. Triple H vs HBK vs Benoit / Benoit/Guerrero Ending.
That's pretty bad for 4.5 hours of entertainment! I hope this is a wake up call to Vince. Oh and that Lesnar stuff was horrible, Vince probably told him to leave when he hit the curtain. So bad.
Oh yeah and that Undertaker stuff was COMPLETE CRAP.
You push this angle for 3 months or whatever, have all these promos for what? The return of Cowboy Calloway?
Still, I suppose that ending made up for the slop.
I bet millions of asthma puffers on the internet went click click click click click click.
Wow. Some people like to bitch about everything. WM was fucking awesome. It had its low points (Lesnar/Goldberg totally totally sucked) but Angle/Guerrero lived up to the hype and the triple main blew the hype away.
Poor Ultimo Dragon, slipped twice and got jobbed. Him and Austin (who dropped one beer and got pegged in the jaw with another) are probably at a karaoke bar right now singing "Wind Beneath My Wings" after like twelve bottles of sake.
Wow. Some people like to bitch about everything. WM was fucking awesome. It had its low points (Lesnar/Goldberg totally totally sucked) but Angle/Guerrero lived up to the hype and the triple main blew the hype away.
That's called opinion. Seriously, besides the 3 good matches what else was awesome? Rikishi and Scotty/Booker and RVD retaining their belts? Make shift tag teams are the worst. What else, how about the cruiserweight open having SO much potential and elimating people in SECONDS. Wow. Plus they introduce Akio and he doesnt even compete. lol or how about that womens tag match, that was off the charts stellar.
:S
Seriously, what else was good? The Foley match was pretty much nothing but punches/chops (good ole flair) until the finish (which was cool and a surprise).
It's not that I'm complaining without merit here. Take away the internet mark celebration stuff (Benoit/Guerrero) and what do you have? A crappy PPV.
Guerrero and Benoit holding the belts was surreal but I don't let that one moment overshadow 4 hours of drudge.
I've been a fan of wrestling for almost 20 years now. Poor writing just doesnt cut it anymore. Sorry.
But hey, you enjoyed it, so to each their own. Go celebrate while I clinched my fist and shake hard(er boy!!)
what reign? he'll loose it soon enough. i like how HHH was all pasty and pale on monday and then hit the spray tan and was the darkest person out there tonight. i didnt really think molly would shave her hair. that was pretty neat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
oh and i thought they said the show would be 3 hours of WM and an hour of old footage and stuff. not that im complaining much but there really wasnt as much old stuff as i thought there'd be.
All I can say is this... I said that if HHH beat benoit I would cry. Benoit won and I still shed a tear...
Chris Benoit and Eddie Guerrero are the champs. I still can't fucking believe it.
WM was awesome.
Brock v Goldy might have sucked, but it was worth it to see the crowd make Brock cry before the match even started.
Taker coming back was worth it for the entrance.
The filler did what it was supposed to do, and give me time to pis and grab drinks.
The title matches rocked.
Quit bitching.
I'd also like to say that the titty match was the best titty match ever. All the women (even Jackie!) looked great, they actually wrestled a decent bit, and the cameramen deserve a gold star for getting us the best angles in every situation.
Amen to that!Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
Wrestlemania was great. Thank goodness the tag matches were kept short. Those sold out chants on Lesner were great. In the end, I fear Undertaker's new cowboy hat. :lol:
What was so horrible about the Brock/Goldberger match?
I would've expected that to be above average, if not have the potential to be really good.
There just wasn't very much of anything. It was slow and both men looked awkward throughout the whole match. Also, I assume most people were more entertained by the chants of "You sold out!" and the fact that Stone Cold stunned their asses after the match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
I agree with pixel assassin on the fact that this Wrestlemania was terrible. It wasn't the best pay per view of the year, and it definitely wasn't the best Wrestlemania. But did have some redeeming moments.
I enjoyed The Rock & Sock vs. Evolution, although I didn't see a point to making it 3 on 2. But it was fun to watch and Flair was hilarious. When he was clotheslines on the outside he immediately got up, looked extremely pissed, and just booked it for a chair. That and him bringing out his strut again was cool.
Cena versus Big Show was a cool match and it helped Cena out abit. It was a solid opener. I really like Cena and he tried really hard to get the fans in to the match. I'm pretty sure that Cena will be headlining with the WWE Championship within two years. People just like him.
Eddy vs. Angle was a good wrestling match, and I think they did a good job with what they had. The three matches prior to their matches killed the crowd. It started slow and gradually picked up, but it wasn't their best match. I mean... we've seen the same kind of match from them on Smackdown. But still, the ending was really really unique. It probably would've worked 10x more if they didn't show him unstrapping his boot. More shock, but still great.
Umm... what else? Oh, the triple threat was great. I thought they were going to do the typical "one man goes outside from a punch for 30 minutes while the other two fight" type scenario and they did, but it was only for like 1 minute a piece before they all got back in to it. That superkick Benoit took off of the sharp shooter was awesome. This was a great main event to the PPV and the best highlight of the night. (Not for Benoit winning, he could've lost and it still would have been the best match)
Other than that everything else was pretty shitty. It seemed like all the matches were too short and the actual booking of them were poor. Nothing came of Coach being sent to find Undertaker besides a gross segment between Heenan and Gene. I thought he would continue to look throughout the night to reveal gross things going on in the building or something. The reward ceremony was pretty neat, but boring as hell, and nobody can figure out why Pete Rose is there.
I guess there's nothing else left. Those tag team matches stunk though. Everyone in the history of WWE wanted WGTT to win, even though they were heels. APA is done and the Bashams are a terrible tag team, but atleast they're a team. I dislike oddball teams like RVD and Booker T, and Rikishi and Scotty 2 Hotty unless they put Goldust in one.
All in all it was okay. The good was super good, the bad was super bad.
Oh and the Undertaker Bad Ass was god awful. They should've held off until backlash or atleast made him wear the old gloves and costume (refitted or something to look more modern)
Dyne, I'd rather him hold it for a small period of time than have his WCW World Title reign be the only world title to his credit.
it was just the way you worded it. he just won it last night and you said it was good to see him "get a world title reign" likes hes had it for 5 years.
yeah as much as i loved when paul bearer came out (i knew he would just HAVE to be there) undertaker didnt work. he NEEDS the hair and NEEDS to loose that faggy tank top. as soon as i saw that i was like, wtf!? and stacy.....my god those legs......
I may have been a little harsh on the PPV last night. I give it an overall 2.5/5.
It had memorable moments, but it didn't feel like a Wrestlemania. Let alone Wrestlemania 20.
People keep settling for what they are given. Why?
WWE is going downhill. I hope last night was a wakeup call to Vince. It's time for changes. Many WWE fans don't understand good writing or producing, I just hope Vince was intentley watching. (and got pissed)
Great workers getting the top belts in great, hot matches? Check.
Focus on the wrestling itself? Check.
Clean finishes? Check.
Well-done heel turn? Check.
Old stars putting the new guys over? Check.
Real competition in the Women's and Cruiser divisions? Check.
I'll agree that the tag matches sucked. No excuse for that. The cruiser match was rushed. Brock/Goldie sucked, but that was because of the circumstances more than the writing. But:
Show/Cena was as good as a Show match is going to be.
Christian/Jericho was a hot match with a great heel turn.
The 3-on-2 was great. Everyone performed well and the right guy got the win.
The titty match was as good as a titty match is going to be.
The women's match featured the two best competitors in the division and delivered on its stips.
Angle/Guerrero was a fantastic match, if not the best you could imagine from those two.
Undertaker's entrance was awesome and Kane played his part perfectly. I loved it.
The triple main may well be the match of the year. Perfect. It remade a fan out of me.
I don't see what is was you were expecting, given the card.
Taker should lose the tanktop.
I feel really bad for Molly, and Ultimo.
I'm gonna miss Brock.
The Radicalz are on top of the world.
Wrestlemania was fantastic.
Korly don't feel bad for Molly, I'm sure she got a hefty bonus in her Mania paycheck.
I wonder what Kevin Nash and Kevin Sullivan are thinking now?
Yeah the Ultimo thing was so bad. I felt so sorry for him. I mean first off, wasn't it his dream or something to perform in front of MSG?
So not only does 75% of the crowd not know anything about him other than he is a jobber in WWE, he trips twice and once in his intro! :(
Poor Ultimo, but you know what, he shouldn't take Vince's crap. Return to Japan, start Toryumon(sp?) and then we can buy tapes of GOOD wrestling again. :) Zing!
Seriously, though, bring back Curryman.
Great workers getting the top belts in great, hot matches? Check.
2 four star matches, one close to four star match (the top rope botch does take away) is something to settle for. But why man? I know we've been fed less than normal wrestling for a couple years now, but why just 'settle' for a couple great matches? It should be completely great, they have had 20 years of experience.
Focus on the wrestling itself? Check.
Not really. I mean if that were the case, would we have a tag team Playboy match? Like I said, they had some good matches but that was in between a hell of a lot of garbage.
Clean finishes? Check.
A nice surprise.
Well-done heel turn? Check.
I agree. I thought about that heel turn before it happened but it was well done. I liked that match in its entirety, the one botch kinda lost the crowd a bit but hey, things happen.
Old stars putting the new guys over? Check.
True, but again we are settling. Triple H shouldn't have control over whether he lays down or not. He gets paid to wrestle not be a politician. It's the one thing that ruins wrestling - Egos.
Real competition in the Women's and Cruiser divisions? Check.
I disagree. The Women's match lasted 5 minutes and ended the same way Victoria has beaten Molly the last month or more. Was it supposed to be a bathroom break? Because that isn't a good sign.
The Cruiserweight match was TERRIBLE. So much potential yet they had under 10 second eliminations. Hardly anyone got to show their move sets off. For a match that could have been one of the nights best, it was a HUGE disappointment.
I'll agree that the tag matches sucked. No excuse for that. The cruiser match was rushed. Brock/Goldie sucked, but that was because of the circumstances more than the writing.
You're right. The writing was still bad though, and it will be until they do something about it. Brock was being a little bitch last night and that didn't help anything. A friend of mine said he wouldn't have been surprised if McMahon told Brock to leave right after he got through the curtain. No excuse for that kind of attitude. I commend Goldberg for trying to find ways for him to stay. He has fans who want to see him, he is trying to please them. I like that.
But:
Show/Cena was as good as a Show match is going to be.
It was a good match. Nothing wrong with it. Nothing great either, well except Cena's 1-Up Mario wristbands. I'm surprised the guy doesn't win the video game tournaments they have each year.
Christian/Jericho was a hot match with a great heel turn.
Yeah it was good.
The 3-on-2 was great. Everyone performed well and the right guy got the win.
It wasn't anything great though. This is Wrestlemania 20. The ending was good and it did surprise me.
The women's match featured the two best competitors in the division and delivered on its stips.
Again I disagree. A 5 minute match with the 2 best womens wrestlers is hardly a nod for their efforts.
Angle/Guerrero was a fantastic match, if not the best you could imagine from those two.
I agree, they are my 2 favourites in the league for a long while and I was expecting a great match and I got it. Yet the WWE like totally disrespected their match by having the womens 'head shaving' still happening while they came out. I dunno, I thought that was kinda lame. They know this will probably be their best match, yet they do things like that. *shrugs*
Undertaker's entrance was awesome and Kane played his part perfectly. I loved it.
Horrible. I hated every minute of it. Undertaker was the same guy who left. They pushed this for months and bring back a cowboy? Kane did play his part nicely, but it didnt work because it was just Badass Bikerboy. Everything for this match was setup awesome. The entrance, the opponent, his manager returning. EVERYTHING. Yet they blow it by having the Lone Ranger come out.
I was extremely disappointed and let down.
The triple main may well be the match of the year. Perfect. It remade a fan out of me.
I agree again. It was an awesome match. One of Triple H's best in recent memory. I dunno what is happening with Triple H though. I was watching his cage match w/ the Rock from like 1999 and he had a beard and was totally ripped. That's the Triple H who kicked ass. Anyways the match was great and Chris Benoit got his well earned championship and he made Triple H tap out for it.
Personally I liked Guerrero/Angle a bit more, but that's really personal opinion (because they are my favs).
I don't see what is was you were expecting, given the card.
Given it was Wrestlemania and not any Wrestlemania but WRESTLEMANIA 20! My expectations were EXCEEDINGLY high. Yet they didnt deliver.
Yes, I was having fun with my friends at their place but the event was not even Wrestlemania quality let alone the 20th anniversary show they had been promoting all year with Wrestlemania moments and the like. I dunno what they meant by 'where it all begins again' but I didn't notice anything new beginning again. Not even a new logo. :)
Which in my opinion is about due for a new one. Enough with the re-hashed attitude logo.
Anyways, that's why I was so disappointed.
I only read up to "curryman".
Curryman > wwe
Curryman was in Fire Pro but was fictional right?
Curryman is fucking real! :lol: I think Christopher Daniels played that shit in Japan. Ichiban! :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Korian
Curryman was a dude who wrestled in Japan, yes. He was played by Christopher Daniels (Fallen Angel in the states) and he wore yellow shorts and a yellow mask which had a plate of curry on it.
I present: Curryman -> http://www5b.biglobe.ne.jp/~ra-men/curry01.jpg
It was awesome. :)
Also, the Gran Ninawe was awesome to, he portrayed different animals, usually sea urchents or something. His famous 'claw' taunt is the best where he gets on the second rope facing in the ring and puts his arms out and does claws with his fingers and walks back and forth on the second rope. lol
I dunno. It's not that you don't have some valid points, but some of your expectations are unreasonable or even impossible.
I don't see how you can be unhappy with H hogging the strap and then still complain that the man tapped out clean to a huge underdog at the end of Wrestlemania XX - after wrestling his best match in years.
The new Taker look is a matter of taste but I think it really works, and I've never been a Taker fan.
The only non-wrestling diversions were the titty match (and given that these are always going to be around, when have you seen a better one?) and the Hall of Fame ceremony.
Think back just a few months ago, when RAW was headlined by HHH and Nash and SD! by Vince, Piper, Mr. America and a kid with one leg. Sure, WM wasn't perfect, but how can you honestly say things are moving in the wrong direction?
I don't see how you can be unhappy with H hogging the strap and then still complain that the man tapped out clean to a huge underdog at the end of Wrestlemania XX - after wrestling his best match in years.
I wasn't complain about that. I liked Benoits win and like I said, Guerrero/Benoit with both titles is surreal but for the 'best event ever' like they pumped it to be. It just didn't come close.
I don't dock Jericho and christian marks for the slip. It was still an awesome match and they won the crowd back immediately after with that top rope move.
The new draft should be interesting, and the World title looked great around Benoit's waist, which isn't too shocking to me, as I had both he, Eddie, Saturn, Benoit, Booker, and Jericho swap the belt back and forth in Revenge. Oh, and Fifi rules!
I'm really happy with the WWE right now. I stopped watching regularly for the last 4 months and just recently picked up again at Wrestlemania. I stopped watching before Rumble too because of school obligations. So I really became desensitized to the internet drivel and what have you.
Right now, as I am typing this, the WWE is at one of the best places they've been in a long time. Wrestling takes center stage over goofy storylines, the proper talent is being showcased in the main event scene. Old and new wrestlers are working together harmoniously and everyone seems to meshing together. It's as though the old era of Bret Hart and Shawn Michaels is back and I'm going to enjoy it.
I didn't really enjoy Wrestlemania 20 altogether, but like I said before. The good parts were great, the bad parts were bad. I'm going to write it off as good because of the direction it's leading the company in. For the first time I feel as though WWE's starting from a new point and the second Draft brings home this point even further for me.
It's going to be an interesting year for WWE. I hope everything continues to blossom like it has.
Really? I really loved the whole Austin vs. The Rock period. It was so expected, 2 huge superstars facing off in countless battles, but I think when Stone Cold went bad is what really shocked me, and kinda turned me off. I still try to watch wrestling though, too bad im always working.
That was one of the best things in wrestling. It spawned the hilarious Angle - Austin alliance.
It's true! Oh, it's very true! I must have used that line a thousand times after Angle first said it. and i still do. amazing.
Speaking of Angle, he might be out of action again. WrestlingObserver.com's Dave Meltzer reported that he's got numbness in his fingers again.
new draft? i didnt watch raw yet (i am now that im typing this). sounds cool. anyway.,.....benoit should NOT....EVER be given the mic. he just sucks. this is truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy
Benoit's not that bad on the mic.
Seeing Benoit as the champ is awesome. I like the idea of the new 'WWE' with the new lottery. It's cool.
Now they just need a new damn logo. I'm so sick of the attitude rehash. END IT VINCE! Attitude has been over for years, get a new logo! :)
I saw during Cena's entrance a new version of the old WWF logo (the block one). It looked cool.
Benoit was fantastic on the mic the few times he was on it in WCW, so his great mic work is no surprise to me. Cena's used the new version of the block logo for his shirt and new hat, I love it. I've read rumors of WWE creating a new logo, and if they are going to do it, they might as well do it once the new rosters take effect.
Well good news and bad news have been coming in pairs. Benoit and Guerrero are the two world champions :) but Brock & Angle may both be leaving for an attempt at an NFL career and injury, respectively :(Quote:
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Great follow-up Raw to WMXX, loved the "You tapped out chants!" directed at HHH and his losing it emotionally, and Benoit getting the better of him in that interview and against Evolution at the end. I hope they keep booking him strong :D
Roster shakeup next week sounds interesting, especially if both Brock & Angle may be leaving Smackdown that's gonna leave that show with a distinct lack of top card heels, one or two definitely need to be migrated over there.
And Fifi does indeed rule! Though she reminds me of our old family dog, Ralph, who died last year :(
She reminds me of more of Matilda, the British Bulldogs' dog, mainly due to that being the only dog I remember in wrestling, outside of the kennel from Hell ones. Interesting note, Sherri Martel played Ric Flair's maid Fifi in WCW when he came back in 1993.
It looks like having the strap give Chrissy that extra jolt of confidence needed to more than stand awkardly while mumbling.
Awesome.
finished raw. my thoughts (which i know will be meaningless since i like jeff hardy and therefore my opinion is worthless, although ive been watching wrestling since before many of you)
anyway.
im glad to see victoria getting a push. lita needs to stop trying to act so damn cool and just let it happen. she trys waaaaaaay to hard.
matt hardy blows. correct that. him getting squashed every night blows. they need to do something constructive with him or ditch him.
stone cold needs to leave. his gimmick is dumb. why do people get so damn excited seeing his fat ass drive to the ring and give people the stunner? he should take those french faggots with him. they're equally worthless.
"miss" jacky is dumb....stacy is hot. i CANT have her going to smackdown again :(
vince walks like he pooped his pants.
great tag match.
i think mick and randy could pull off something really good given a one on one chance.
ric flair is really jiggly.......and he BIT michaels head........that made me laugh.
michaels with the super kicks out of nowwhere ROCK!
michales bleeds waaaaaaay too much for not having the belt. as much as i hate benoit i would love to see him and michaels at the next ppv.
Jesus Christ, get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
Isn't Foley's Boy named Duey? Orton was calling him Huey.
Yeah, his son's name is Dewey, when Orton said that, I immediately thought of Huey, Duey, and Luey from Duck Tales (I think it was.)