WWE Wrestling Discussion thread...

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Originally Posted by g0zen

I think, someday, there should be a TNA Discussion thread.

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it was mentioned but the consensus was "we don't need another faggy wrestling thread".

i wonder if this applies to the other people agreeing with me.

"And there will always be some blowhard like Dyne who takes wrestling too seriously and says it's going in the crapper. Even when the internet smart marks had Eddy Guerrero and Chris Benoit as their world heavyweight champions they complained about it. Absolutely ridiculous."

i love TNA and think 2 hours might hurt it. it really kind of is non-stop action from beginning to end and adding length might hurt that. we already know their writing isn't any better than the WWE's and adding more time would add more "story". i like it the way it is now. and i don't agree with g0zen who said Rhyno is being used well. his run isn't really any different than his WWE stint except this time he actually got the belt.

and i agree with Dole. RVD is not the same RVD since being in the WWE. he needs to be in TNA stat. there just aren't enough people on the roster that can put on a good match with him.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

I think, someday, there should be a TNA Discussion thread.

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I started one four years ago, but it eventually just got absorbed into this thread. I can't even find it by searching anymore.

Spike TV declined the TNA desire of having a Monday night show the ONE FRIGGIN' MONDAY NIGHT that Raw wouldn't be on this year. I hope they're just doing it because TNA's so new, and plan to do it next year, because this is an easy way to get new viewers.

Anyways, SD was shockingly good tonight. Every match was fun to watch, and the ending for Henry-Rey was the coolest thing ever. Mark Henry is amazingly agile for someone his size, and I loved that Rey busted out new versions of the 619 (sorta) to try and win. OJ-Orton was good, and sets up many possible scenarios. You've got Orton vs. Booker, OJ/Benoit as a team, and maybe even Orton/Benoit as a team built out of respect.

The Gymini match was okay, but they did more neat stuff during their initial killing of Kendrick/London, so it fell flat. Simon's whistle helped make up for that though. As I expected, Finlay brought the awesome, and beat the shit out of Matt Hardy as well. The apron trap was clever, and I love seeing parts of the ring used in an innovative way. My Kennedy was funny as well. "It's a bird, it's a plane, it's......
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/1237/kennedy4wh.jpg

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Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq

See, this still doesn't matter to me. It's still the same guys wrestling with the same five moves and safe restholds all the time. There's no innovation or excitement in anything anyone does in the company. This is how Shelton got himself over a year ago, by just doing anything new at all. Now he's just as bland in the ring as everyone else.

Even if you took away the ridiculous amounts of high-flying in TNA, they're still doing awesome, unique moves. Just in the 4 minutes of that really hot 6-man X-Division match a couple weeks ago on Impact, I saw two moves I hadn't seen in a long time that made me excited to watch (the catapult into a flying dropkick, Shelley's head bouncing move, and if you don't watch ROH enough to see him, Roderick Strong's backbreakers and gutbusters are fun as shit to watch).

Go ahead and watch it: http://youtube.com/w/TNA---Strong%2C...h=tna%20impact

When was the last time Kurt Angle did anything fresh and exciting? That's what he used to be known for. Even the TLC match on Raw was the exact same spots we saw in every other TLC match.

And when it comes to WWE's ratings being strong, you have to realize that there's a four-year-old company with a shitty Saturday night timeslot doing 1/3rd or 1/4th of the rating WWE does every Monday and Thursday in a primetime weekday slot. WWE was pulling in 3.0's before moving to USA compared to the 6-7.0's they were doing in 2000. And TNA already has them beat on worldwide television:http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Wrestling/...2/1391282.html

WWE is boring as shit, and there are a shitload of others, moreso than ever, that think the same.

/tna viral marketing

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I think this is why I enjoyed Fit Finlay's match so much. He did atleast 3 or 4 unique moves you never usually see in the course of a typical WWE match, and one really weird apron spot when Matt tried to baseball slide in to him from the ring (the first time I've ever seen something done like this)

I still enjoy WWE, but I'm glad TNA is moving up the ranks.

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And if WWE can make a guy like Rob Van Dam boring, you know something's up.

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He'd make a really interesting asset to TNA.

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Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

it was mentioned but the consensus was "we don't need another faggy wrestling thread".

i wonder if this applies to the other people agreeing with me.

"And there will always be some blowhard like Dyne who takes wrestling too seriously and says it's going in the crapper. Even when the internet smart marks had Eddy Guerrero and Chris Benoit as their world heavyweight champions they complained about it. Absolutely ridiculous."

i love TNA and think 2 hours might hurt it. it really kind of is non-stop action from beginning to end and adding length might hurt that. we already know their writing isn't any better than the WWE's and adding more time would add more "story". i like it the way it is now. and i don't agree with g0zen who said Rhyno is being used well. his run isn't really any different than his WWE stint except this time he actually got the belt.

and i agree with Dole. RVD is not the same RVD since being in the WWE. he needs to be in TNA stat. there just aren't enough people on the roster that can put on a good match with him.

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I like WWE, but it is what it is and it's always been that. I'm not taking any of this seriously so stop taking my flame bait seriously. I like TNA but I do like to have a variety. I like the more showy aspects of WWE, and a lot of their talent.

As for Benjamin, I remember one of his matches with Carlito awhile back being pretty good. He did a flipping neck breaker (overcast) on Carlito from the apron to the mats.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

You've got Orton vs. Booker, OJ/Benoit as a team, and maybe even Orton/Benoit as a team built out of respect.

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heres a possible way for orton to go.

"WWE has announced in the Richmond, VA area that the 2/21 Smackdown show, which is the first TV taping after the No Way Out PPV, will feature a main event of "Kurt Angle and Randy Orton vs. Mark Henry and The Undertaker. Judging by this, there will probably be a few turns coming up in the next month."

-wrestlezone-

So, does that make Taker a heel? If so, awesome.

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Originally Posted by Korly

So, does that make Taker a heel? If so, awesome.

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Randy Orton being a face equal NOT awesome though.

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Originally Posted by Korly

Motion captured wrestling games suck. Usually.

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Some of the animation in Smackdown vs. RAW 2006 is motion captured.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

As I expected, Finlay brought the awesome, and beat the shit out of Matt Hardy as well.

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Fit Finlay beat up Matt Hardy? LOL

Hardy = super-jobber

So, I was at a wedding show with my fiancee last night (it's a place where you go to get ideas about stuff you want for your wedding, meet with various vendors etc) and I ran into:

http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrest...os/dinero.html

He wrestled a lot of shows locally here for MCW, and since MCW was coming back it was good to catch up with him, and he confirmed that he'll be there at the show on 2-26. I used to work at a smoothy stand back in the day, and sometime in early 2003 he was walking through my mall and I'm all "yo, Julio, come here" and so he came over and I made him a smoothy. He told me he was there shopping for goth-type clothes because he was about to join up with Raven in TNA which I dismissed as bullshit at the time, but lo and behold, 3 weeks later:

http://www.obsessedwithwrestling.com...locktna/03.jpg
(and yeah, that's Mickie James also)

Thing is, between the smoothy thing, and being at so many MCW shows back in the day, he actually remembered me. (or at least, he pretended to.)



The return of MCW is going to be especially awesome because SAMOA JOE is gonna be here! They haven't announced his opponent yet, but it'll be awesome to see him squash some schmuk here on the mean streets of beautiful Dundalk, MD.

http://www.marylandwrestling.com/

Julio also got a nice push towards the end of ECW's life alongside "Confederate Currency" Chris Hamrick. Since he's in that shot, I might as well mention that Raven is now 270 lbs. and in poor health due to a thyroid problem. He'll be out of TNA a while due to his storyline, and this might give him time to get the treatment he needs. Also, Sting might be taking the next two months off. Tobal, I think only the cutscene animations and the stuff that was taken from WM 21 was motion captured in SvR '06.

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Sting might be taking the next two months off.

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Money well spent.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Money well spent.

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from what i read, he and Jarrett spoke after the ppv and it was decided that they might want to try an angle where Jarrett bad mouths Sting for a couple weeks to get him out of retirement. this of course flys right in the face of the weeks spent leading up to the ppv saying he was signed and coming back and changes will be made, because why would they sign someone for one match.

also i think it's funny that they're giving Raven no more matches for the next 16 weeks (this would be without pay) to try and make him quit. we can have Sting sitting on his ass getting paid but Raven gets the shaft like this? TnA seems worse sometimes than 10 McMahons.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

Money well spent.

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That's how Sting will "change TNA forever." He'll bankrupt it.

He's a sleeper cell brought in by vince.

Dole, while this does make giving Sting a massive deal look stupid, it won't bankrupt them. For one, Spike TV is footing some of his bill; and for another, if they could survive for years on the money pit of weekly PPVs, they'll be fine after this.

Why do they want raven to quit?

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Originally Posted by avatar

Why do they want raven to quit?

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guess they don't have anything for him, or maybe the whole Raven/Zabysko angle has a bit of truth to it? not sure but even if Raven is a plumper and much more boring version of his old self, it's still a shoddy way to do business.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

Dole, while this does make giving Sting a massive deal look stupid, it won't bankrupt them. For one, Spike TV is footing some of his bill; and for another, if they could survive for years on the money pit of weekly PPVs, they'll be fine after this.

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this is why we really need a sarcasm label.

jerome......he was joking.

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Originally Posted by avatar

Why do they want raven to quit?

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They don't. It was misreported and later clarified that they were wrong.

Hope everyone made their Fantasy picks.

It begins tonight.

Shit I totally forgot. Luckily enough, I actually DID pick people two weeks ago thinking this past week was #1 so the damage should be pretty minimal.

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Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq

They don't. It was misreported and later clarified that they were wrong.

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Although having one of the biggest names in their company in a storyline where he DOESN'T exist in TNA is kind of dumb booking in and of itself. If nothing else they should have him buy a front row seat to the show every day so he's atleast THERE. And maybe fans will keep tuning in to see when he finally jumps the guardrail and makes a return.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

That's how Sting will "change TNA forever." He'll bankrupt it.

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Money well spent.

wait, fantasy league is back? i never got an email. let me register.

is the league name and pw still the same?

edit: nevermind, i signed up and joined the league. looking like a small turnout this time... :\

I guess I forgot to make my picks. :( I'm already out of the running.

Shelton-HBK was easily the highlight of Raw. I cannot believe how perfectly they redid and then revamped the finishing spot for their match last year. I wish Shelton had won, but I know he'll beat him down the line. They have tremendous chemistry, and I look forward to each match they have.

It really was a great match.

I think I cleaned up in Fantasy this Raw.

I thought it was a great match until the end... He was on his way with a "new attitude" that could make him more aggressive and take more chances getting him over big time again, and now he's sidetracked with this Mama bullshit. Also, now his winning streak is already over because of her, and all because of this bullshit angle with Vince and Michaels. Great match, poor ending, but enjoyable overall. As said, they have good chemistry and I look forward to more matches with them. Shame no more matches with him and Angle though.

The ending was a low point, but after using last year's finish of the year mid-match, anything would be. Some new WON notes

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Shelton B. is expected to beat Flair for the IC title

Raven is having severe health problems as it relates to his past abuses of recreational and performance enhancing drugs. His thyroid is all messed up.

The reason TNA had their unopposed Monday night show canceled the week that the dog show is preempting RAW, is because TNA was told by Spike to sign another marquee talent (ala Sting) and failed to do so.

Jeff Jarrett contacted The Rock recently asking about product advice.

TNA and the UFC are sharing much the same audience on Spike. This was not the case when UFC and WWE were both on the network. Dave suggests that TNA is more appealing to a “sports” fan than the WWE is then based on those stats.

Armageddon did roughly 290,000 buys – highest SD! PPV since July 2003 (Vince vs Gowen and Brock vs Big Show vs Angle)

Mexico’s Roberto Rangel, a ref full time for 53 YEARS, went into shock on Dec 24th and his career is now over.

In the it can always be worse category: Former WWE “star” Kenzo Suzuki is part of a Hustle storyline where his wife is GM so he is Main eventing all the shows. (Razor Ramon Hard Gay is one of his opponents)

WWE is avoiding Dome shows because it costs 2 million dollars before you can even open the doors on such an event.

Antonio Inoki continues his trend of weekly outrageous claims: This week he claimed the Bankrupt New Japan promotion was going to split into 2 brands. One would tour Japan and the other foreign countries.

The “Hart House” in Calgary is expected to be preserved as a centerpiece for a new townhouse development.

An obscure Mexican wrestler died recently, which led to Dave telling a story about how this guy teamed with wrestling legend Danny Hodge and the 2 of them went over Stan Hansen and Bruiser Brody in 1975. Brody and Hansen weren’t happy jobbing to small guys, so Hodge got to stretch Brody a little bit.

April Hunter’s ex boyfriend (who she still lived with due to $$$ restraints) recently beat the tar out of her and claimed he was going to cut her tits of since that’s all she had going for her.

Dave reveals that Kimmel wanted the “It’s still real to me Damnit!” fan to be on his show, but once they located him and found out he was (gasp) normal and lost interest in him. Dave said he was approached by NBC in the 80’s to be featured in a show on Pro Wrestling as “Wrestling’s biggest fan” after the producers saw how clean cut he was they went with a “barely coherent, drooling Louisiana Jim Duggan fan” as the Biggest fan instead.

The legends PPV coming on March 3rd will be called World Wrestling legends and will be mostly 80’s stars.

Chris Jericho has his own 2 hour XM radio show, a UK Fozzy tour coming up and has a book deal for his bio. Plus he’s still doing auditions and taking acting classes.

Jim Cornette fell down his stairs at home and got a deep hip bruise. He said it was more painful than the Starcade Scaffold bump that messed up his knee permanently.

Chris Jericho cited interest in TNA if he could get “Sting money” . It seems unlikely.

Jarrett visited Bret Hart recently and believes he can convince Bret to do some TNA shots.

Vince wanted Sting for 2002’s Wrestlemania but negotiations didn’t go fast enough and Sting felt he wouldn’t be in good enough shape to go. Vince called him when the TNA deal came close to fruition, but the WWE wanted him to work 12-15 days a month and Sting wouldn’t do that.

Dave Hebner has opened up a wrestling promotion with NASCAR”S Hermie Sadler. He will use mostly TNA talent as a TNA house show dry run. His 1st show had a Dusty finish for the main event which just makes for a wonderful precedent. Al Snow refereed at the event. WWE theme music was used and Spike Dudley used that name which WWE owns.

TNA will be doing another PPV of all cage matches this year.

The guy who financed Randy Savage’s rap CD made an offer to buy TNA

When Skanador Akbar did his recent MMA cornerman duty, he did so while in full turban and Sheik’s clothing (Think World Class 1987)

SummerSlam is now up to roughly 640,000 buys the 2nd biggest SSlam buyrate in history (98 Taker vs Austin = no. 1)

Antonio Inoki (yeah he’s still lying) claimed Lesner won his court case vs WWE and is now free to go anywhere to work

HHH was mad that WWE.com broke kayfabe about he and Steffi having a lil Demon brewing in her womb.

The 1st SNME will air March 18th and be on a 3 hour tape delay

Kurt Angle’s lower back and his neck are both very bad but now with the belt Angle’s going to go harder than ever.

Cole and Tazz both complained that Ken Kennedy was added to their announcing team (Cole more than Tazz)

Bob Orton caught hepatitis as a teen and forgot he had it (35+ years) Taker was so pissed off by the whole situation Johnny Ace had to fly to a house show and sooth things over with him. Bob Orton was sent home.

Jim Ross has been offered a new contract. No word on whether he wants to resign or not though.

Flair said in a recent interview he wants to run for North Carolina Governor

Dave confirms that Animal can’t wrestle in 0ne on one matches due to his Lloyd’s of London deal.

Al Snow claimed in a recent interview that Vince once called him about his European Champ gimmick while Vince was in the middle of screwing Linda.

Billy Graham will be working WWE TV in February to promote the DVD and book

Awesome WWE logic: OVW requested Mac Johnson be returned to them from Deep South since he’s over in OVW and not really being used in Deep South. Talent relations denied the request because OVW is seen by the writers and the writers will see Mac has “no body” week after week and thus have no ideas for him and he will be fired. If he stays in Deep South no one will see him and his job is safe. So by being in a place where he’s not over, he has a better chance to keep his job!

The Wrestlemania tour bus which is to go city to city promoting the show was broken into recently and half the stuff was stolen.

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I feel bad for Kurt, but I'm looking forward to Shelton-Flair. The promos between Flair and Mama alone will make that feud fun to watch.

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April Hunter’s ex boyfriend (who she still lived with due to $$$ restraints) recently beat the tar out of her and claimed he was going to cut her tits of since that’s all she had going for her.

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lol

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Al Snow claimed in a recent interview that Vince once called him about his European Champ gimmick while Vince was in the middle of screwing Linda.

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gross.

I'm reading Business 2.0 (which arrived today) and Panda Energy (the parent company of TNA) is given a nice mention. They're developing technology to turn cow shit into energy. Go Panda!

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Bob Orton caught hepatitis as a teen and forgot he had it (35+ years) Taker was so pissed off by the whole situation Johnny Ace had to fly to a house show and sooth things over with him. Bob Orton was sent home.

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If this ends up being truthful, this could be a HUGE story. Think about it. At Armaggedon Bob was bleeding all over Randy and the Undertaker.

Thanks for 15 years of service Mark! Here's a liver destroying disease! Enjoy!

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In the it can always be worse category: Former WWE “star” Kenzo Suzuki is part of a Hustle storyline where his wife is GM so he is Main eventing all the shows. (Razor Ramon Hard Gay is one of his opponents)

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Wait, what?? I have no idea what Hustle is, but does Hard Gay actually do some wrestling? I thought he was only a comedian.

...I'll be damned, he was/is a wrestler. You learn something new every day.

He's been doing the Razor Ramon HG gimmick in Hustle for a while. He just recently started wrestling for the promotion. Here are the "Chronicles of HG" - http://henshinpimp.blogspot.com/2006...that-like.html

The trailer for Kanes movie is up:

http://www.hollywood.com/content/tra...48&f=1&pref=1#

wtf?

Only have one thing for that:http://youtube.com/w/We-coming-Fo-Yo...eese%20souffle

I FINALLY got around to watching Final Resolution. I ordered it to watch with some friends, but we had a huge snowstorm and no one showed up. Next time I was free, no one could make it for whatever reason... finally last night they said they could make it... ONE person shows up. I said fuck it, and we watched it anyway... and we enjoyed it. Not great, and def. not as good as other stuff I've seen from TNA PPV, but we still enjoyed it. I then watched last sat's Impact and liked the booking for the AJ match with Daniels throwing in the towel for him, leading to more awesomeness from the two of them. I was actually kind of into the rest of the show's booking too. They need to keep up the stuff I care about, and less of the Hoyyt and Diamonds in the Rough kind of stuff :)

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The trailer for Kanes movie is up:

http://www.hollywood.com/content/tra...48&f=1&pref=1#

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I saw this trailer a few weeks ago, when I went to go see Hostel. It was a big suprise seeing Kane on the big screen.

BTW, it's directed by a porno director: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0437179/

He also directed some Britney Spears music videos, IIRC.

My pick to win the Royal Rumble is Carlito.

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Originally Posted by Jeremy

He also directed some Britney Spears music videos, IIRC.

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Porno + Spears - 2 Years pls.

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Originally Posted by Andrew

My pick to win the Royal Rumble is Carlito.

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I think you are going to be disappointed.


I pick HHH.





I think we should all make our predictions though, so everyone else, spill it.

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Originally Posted by Korly

I think you are going to be disappointed.


I pick HHH.





I think we should all make our predictions though, so everyone else, spill it.

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I'll go for a surprise. RVD

HHH.

i've also said HHH for a while. totally didn't pick him in Fantasy tho. oops.
i also strongly believe Cena is getting the belt back.

I don't think Cena will win at all. Since Edge won the title the ratings have steadily risen to RAW's best in over 2 years.

I picked Carlito because he's awesome, not really because I think he actually WILL win.

that....would be cool.

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I don't think Cena will win at all. Since Edge won the title the ratings have steadily risen to RAW's best in over 2 years.

I picked Carlito because he's awesome, not really because I think he actually WILL win.

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LOL at Edge keeping the title because of ratings, we all know WWE will break shit before it's due, so be ready to see your boy drop the belt.

It's going to happen! Also, my boy?

You picked that piece of shit, not me :)

Your boy = Edge, not Carlito.

Andrew - Carlito

Chux - HHH

Korly - HHH

Dyne - HHH

Gonzo - RVD



Anyone else wanna make a pick?

And in unrelated news, Orton let me down in Fantasy last night. :(

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You picked that piece of shit, not me :)

Your boy = Edge, not Carlito.

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I also spit in the face of people who don't want to be cool, but instead of apples I use pears. I don't even like Edge that much, I just think he's going to win because the ratings have improved with him helming the ship.

My pick is Carlito because everyone is saying that the winner is going to be a big shock rather than a predictable, tried entry (Like a Micheals or a Triple H).

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And in unrelated news, Orton let me down in Fantasy last night. :(

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UNACCEPTABLE!

LOL 1 Point, Korly.

I thought this was a cool way to end Byte This the other day:

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Originally Posted by Byte This Recap

There was a caller that asked Todd if he thought El Dandy would win the Royal Rumble. Todd said no. Caller asked him who is he to doubt El Dandy. Todd asks caller who he is. Caller says “you’re wrong.” To which Todd replies “you’re my mom?” Caller said that El Dandy would win the Rumble. Todd says good luck to him and he hopes the caller gets a job one day, which Todd highly doubts. Caller says “you too” but Todd cuts him off.

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El Dandy is/was awesome.

That caller is referring to the amazing Bret Hart promo he cut on El Dandy when he was WCW's U.S. Champion. He was talking to Mean Gene about who he would defend his U.S. Title against. He had thought long and hard and decided he would give one of the finest mexican luchadors a shot in El Dandy. Mean Gene questions his choice as a cowardly way out of fighting worthy adversaries and Bret Hart says something along the lines of "Who are you to doubt El Dandy? He's a wrestler of the highest magnitude."

Also, Joey Mercury recently referring to Psicosis as Hypnosis is a direct rip off of this promo. I'll see if I can find the link. Bret Hart is one of the greatest of all time. Half the reason it's awesome was how genuinely upset and perturbed Mean Gene seemingly got over his comments.

Remember when Silver King and El Dandy were managed by Stacy Kiebler? My favorite episode of Thunder EVER was when she took them shopping at the mall.

Pwindsider has up two polls right now asking fans who they think will win the rumble, and who they WANT to win the rumble.

As far as who they think is going to win, HHH is way ahead with 42% of the votes, and Orton and Mysterio are the distant runners up. The only other person who has more than like 2 votes is HBK.

The competition for who they WANT to win is being led by RVD right now with 36% of the votes. Mysterio has 18%, Benoit with 7.6%, HBK with 7.2% and Orton with 5.5%

My favorite skit of Thunder was when Kanyon would run around and Kanyon cut people at random times. Once he even hit it on a patron walking outside during an establishing shot of the arena.

I so badly want shelton to win, simply becuase he could face anyone at WM and have a MOTY contender.

However I'll go with RVD. They are hyping his comeback on both shows big time.

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My favorite skit of Thunder was when Kanyon would run around and Kanyon cut people at random times. Once he even hit it on a patron walking outside during an establishing shot of the arena.

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Yeah, I loved that stuff. It eventually led to the legendary "Judy Bagwell on a Pole" match.

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However I'll go with RVD. They are hyping his comeback on both shows big time.

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they've done that with other people as well (most recently HHH) and proceeded to do nothing with the person.

also here's a spoiler for the direction that the SD title situation is being planned. Hi my name is Saleh and when I was browsing through our PPV channel site here in Australia, (mainevent.com.au). They have headlining WWE No Way Out, Kurt Angle vs. The Undertaker as the main event. Kurt Angle will be having is title on the line too.

The following is taken from the Main Event website:

Does Kurt Angle have what it takes to defend the World Heavyweight Championship against the Undertaker, or will he be trapped with No Way Out? WWE NO Way Out LIVE from USA and EXCLUSIVE to MAIN EVENT.

I thought that was old news.

I live in MD (close to where No Way Out is going to be) and they've been showing that advertisement on TV for awhile now.

They might take the belt off him though due to his new injuries. Henry as champion wouldn't be that bad match-wise, since he can do stuff most men his size can't. The WWE title situation is far more interesting though, given how ratings have gone up with Edge as champ. I doubt RVD will win the Rumble, but he would be a good choice as SD champ given their need for star power, and his ability to have good matches with many members of the SD roster.

good god, you did not say Henry would make a good champion.........i cry for you :(

I didn't say he'd be a good champion, just that his matches as champion wouldn't be bad.

how would his matches change just because he has the belt? he's still sexual chocolate.

But his last 2 matches on Smackdown have been pretty damn good.

Seriously, his rollthrough finish last week ruled, and this week's press-front powerslam thing was great.

HAve to agree. Henry looks to be back in shape and at his best performance level. IMHO Mark Henry is reaching his athlectic peak right. A month or 2 run with the title wouldn't be that bad.

TNA commentary as it occurs:

Jeff Jarrett vs. generic black guy.

Oh goodie, another Jeff Jarrett squash match. Good god get those girls out of here. They are the epitome of overacting. Hey black guy is getting in some offense... oh a quick finish with The Stroke. Oh yeah... this is total nonstop action. Funny how Jarrett is an okay wrestler, but incredibly boring. Christian is here to do a promo. He continues to tell people he's not out there to tell jokes, the crowd groans. He can cut an amazing promo, but his non-shalont announcement of his big PPV match seems like a wasted opportunity. No storyline build up, just a non-shalont announcement of him magically becoming the new #1 contender.

Commercial break.

Team 3D vs. two jobber in a squash match. One wrestler is wearing pirate shorts and may very well be just two fit looking men TNA grabbed off of the streets of Universal Studios for this match. Another 2 minut squash match. Here comes another "IN YOUR FACE" promo from Bubba. This promo is longer than the actual match.

Samoa Joe - AJ Style promo. How TNA can not offer Samoa Joe more money for his work is beyond me. He's one of the only "stars" on their roster that is even somewhat unique to their creative department.

I like Alex Shelley and his 3 man stable. Abyss vs. Rhino and Sting SPEAKING still ahead. Tonight is truly one to be remembered in the annals of wrestling history.

I don't feel like continuing, and lets face it, you don't feel like reading it. And the x division stars are wrestling now so it's worth watching. TNA is all about their X Division superstars. For a small company that can't afford to make a lot of mistakes they sure do end up making a lot of mistakes.

It's "annals", and Jay Lethal is far from a "generic black guy".

Well he does have that Shelton Benjamin light thing going for him.

Rhino's getting fat again.

Yeah, he's a bit less ripped. Jay's offense tonight did more to set him apart from the pack than at any point before in TNA. The Gore through the wall was so cool. Normally I hate that kind of spot, but it helped to not have it done through a paper wall. I loved that the ref decides to throw it out after that spot, when they've been outside the ring for a good minute, and used numerous weapons against each other.

Mike Tenay is still calling the Koketa Clutch (whatever it's called) the rear naked choke. What a fucking idiot. The wall spot was alright, and if that was Jay Lethal's best display thus far then he really is a nobody jobber. Sorry, but he only landed three or four moves before Jarrett put him away like nothing happened.

Sting is about to speak. He looks a lot older, but he's in better shape than Rhino.

Sting's music is easily the best theme he's had in TNA, and I had goosebumps during that promo. That was the best story he's ever told in a promo, and the sendoff from the fans and wrestlers at the end was touching.

He really did look old.

Well, he is 46. At least he looked worlds better than Savage did last year. I just picked up Armaggedon '05 for $16 at Wal-Mart, it came with Armageddon '03 as a bonus disc, which had the good/great RVD-Orton and HBK-Batista matches.

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if that was Jay Lethal's best display thus far then he really is a nobody jobber. Sorry, but he only landed three or four moves before Jarrett put him away like nothing happened.

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The business is a work.

IT'S STILL REAL TO HIM, DAMMIT!

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The business is a work.

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Yes. And someone with more star power would have actually put on a good match with Jarrett.

God would struggle to have a good match with Jarrett at this point.

That's because God won't stop using rest holds.

so wait a second....i totally missed Impact (wonder where i can download it from). so Sting basically "retired" last night? this would lend credit to the story i posted earlier that they want Jarrett to badger him out of "retirement" again. this is really dumb though. just have him fucking wrestle.

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Sting's music is easily the best theme he's had in TNA, and I had goosebumps during that promo.

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how many others has he had in TNA? i liked Christians last music in the WWE, but his TNA theme is pretty good as well.

He had one other TNA theme - a terrible knock-off of his WCW Metallica theme.

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so wait a second....i totally missed Impact (wonder where i can download it from). so Sting basically "retired" last night? this would lend credit to the story i posted earlier that they want Jarrett to badger him out of "retirement" again. this is really dumb though. just have him fucking wrestle.

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Not only does this give us the outcome of their next PPV's main event (jarrett most likely winning) but it serves to overshadow Christian's big shot as well. Mishandling Sting and Christian in one fell swoop. Everytime a big wrestler comes in to TNA they seem to sweep them to the side in favor of Jeff Jarrett harping on them in some way.

Oh well, I'll see where they're going with this. But the creative writing in TNA makes WWE seem like Emmy worthy stuff by comparison.

exactly what i was thinking (about the next ppv). i thought it was really dumb to bring in both Christian and Sting so close together. because as it stands, Christian is basically Stings mouthpiece (for whatever reason). they should have not introduced him yet, have Christian lose to jarret at the next ppv and THEN bring in Sting. Christian does seem incredibly overshadowed.

To be fair I wouldn't really expect anybody to give Christian more publicity and build up than someone like a Sting. They probably should have continued Christian's feud with Monty Brown while Sting was going through his big story with Jarrett at the top of the card so they both were showcased in the product without interferring with one another too much.

Still, it's too early to judge. In a way Jarrett makes a great heel because people seem to genuinely enjoy hating on him (kind of like Triple H) but unlike Triple H Jarrett can't carry a match.

they have me ranked on fantasy but my score says 0 :(

The Rumble is tonight!

They just added a cruiserweight invitational, which could be a lot of fun. Look for Kid Kash to retain though.

Well, those of you that were going to watch the webcast at 4pm where the stars pick their entrance numbers for the rumble, you can change your plans now:

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Mr. McMahon in charge this Sunday
Jan. 26, 2006

Mr. McMahon has determined that the Superstars will no longer be drawing their Royal Rumble entry numbers online this Sunday afternoon.

Instead, Mr. McMahon will be personally conducting the drawing himself during the Royal Rumble pay-per-view.

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Jonas is ordering it so I get to see it. I usually like to order the bigger events like Survivor Series, Royal Rumble and Wrestlemania (and Summerslam if they have something good planned). I was there live when Benoit lost to Randy Orton for the World Heavyweight Title two Summerslam's ago. The best thing about the event was how weird the Toronto crowd was behaving. They booed the fuck out of Eugene (although Toronto does seem to just boo whoever) and started a stadium-wide wave during the JBL - Undertaker match.

Jonas thinks Randy Orton is going to win the Royal Rumble. He's guessing that Randy Orton will get eliminated, and then come back in with Booker T's spot by cashing in his favor and win it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Benoit come in at #1 and last right to #29 before Orton throws him out.

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Jonas thinks Randy Orton is going to win the Royal Rumble. He's guessing that Randy Orton will get eliminated, and then come back in with Booker T's spot by cashing in his favor and win it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Benoit come in at #1 and last right to #29 before Orton throws him out.

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you know, that is a damn good prediction.

IAWTP

"The winner of tonight's Royal Rumble is not scheduled for a main event at WrestleMania this year.

There has been some serious discussions as to the Edge vs. John Cena match tonight. They were going back and forth all week long with some feeling one way and others feeling another."

now i didn't think there were any WM matches made official yet, so does this mean the winner of the rumble won't be at WM? also interesting that they decide this Edge stuff at the last minute. i remembered reading that the decision to have him get the belt was decided right before the show. doesn't seem like the WWE knows if they want to run with him or not.


also Peter Gabriels "Big Time" is the theme song for WM.

Where did you hear that?

wrestlezone, usually where i get most of my info from.

also

http://www.ringsidemayhem.com/news.p...140582226.html
"Adult movie actress Haze is scheduled to be appearing at the Royal Rumble tonight, according to AVN.com. There has been no mention of what her role will be on tonight’s PPV."

there is no porn chick just named Haze. there's jenna haze (yummy) and others, but not a Haze only. http://www.adultfilmdatabase.com/index.cfm

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Jonas thinks Randy Orton is going to win the Royal Rumble. He's guessing that Randy Orton will get eliminated, and then come back in with Booker T's spot by cashing in his favor and win it. I wouldn't be surprised to see Benoit come in at #1 and last right to #29 before Orton throws him out.

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I change my pick to this.

Oh and Kudos for WWE for keeping the rumble unpreditable for the first time in years.

Dyne, they took that from Meltzer's update today. Oh well, nothing new there. According to said update, there's going to be some celebrity making an appearance on Raw tomorrow. Helms won the cruiserweight title, moving him to SD I guess, making that two guys who came from Raw to go to SD and win gold. Anything that gets him used well is fine by me, although I'm saddened that Kash's run was cut short, they should have a fun feud for the belt.

yeah, kind of weird they're making a big deal about a celebrity. where's RAW at tomorrow anyway?

Raw (and SD) will be in Orlando, while Impact will be taped there on Tues., making Orlando a hotbed for wrestling... for a few days. Meltzer's updates for this show are hilarious. Example - Orton liked his number. HHH didn't like is. He's going 50 and still losing I guess. Yay, 50 minutes of HHH tonight.

So far:

Helms is your new CW champ. No one deserves it more.
Mickie wins
Rey continues to not get over eddie's death.
Boogeyman beats JBL.WTF?
Funny moment between Shelton Mom and Melina.

Next? The Rumble!

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also Peter Gabriels "Big Time" is the theme song for WM.

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Could they have picked an older song?

Royal Rumber winner... Rey Mysterio! That was unexpected. I figure it would have been Triple H or some other predictable winner (Orton being the other "favorite").

Rey was my pick, once they had him dedicate the win to Eddy, it became pretty obvious. I can't wait to see him win the title at some point. Tonight he became the smallest Rumble winner, and if he wins the world belt, he'll be the smallest world heavyweight champion ever, in any company. Unfortunately, he won't look as ripped as his boss -
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/8273/big12fk.jpg