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It cost me $40 to fill up my tank the other day. I'm fortunate enought to be able to get at least 325 miles out of my gas tank though (14 gallon tank). I heard one of the oil company heads say that either last year or this year is projecting to be their most profitable year ever. Wonder why?
Last year they had thier most profitable year ever. This year they need to top it, as it will look bad in the eyes of investors if they don't. Look, people, we're just trying to keep our jobs here.
Even with a hybrid car I'm spending WAY too much money on gas.
I spend over $100 on gas a week. Almost the entirety of my paychecks goes to filling up my car. It's pretty awesome.
Around $2.97 here.
I have never seen anything over $3 in Jersey but you never know. FYI it is illegal to pump your own gas in NJ.
Do you like the smell of your own farts?Quote:
Originally Posted by TobalRox
Regular's creeping uncomfortably close to $3 in NY. I think it costs me about $30-35 to fill my tank now.
I heard. Why is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by soundwave
My tank only holds ten gallons, and it leaks a little if you fill it up around the 8-9 gallon mark, so it never costs me much to fill up... And it gets 30+ mpg, and can use that economy grade crap they sell some places. <3 My dad's car requires the premium shit, hah.
1.58 down here. Where do you guys live?
1.58 is bullshit. Pics.
Law established back in 1949 prohibiting untrained professionals :lol: from pumping their own gas. NJ has always had pretty cheap gas and not having to pump it yourself is pretty sweet. I hear Oregon has a similar law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
What's the training consist of? "Lift nozzle, flip lever, pump, fire bad?"
It's not like any of you didn't have fair warning on this shit. I heard a commercial for a car dealership that said something like, "who would have thought gas prices would get this high?" Um, anyone who could read since 1986?
That said, the actual shortage of supply only really warrants a 25-75 cent increase, not a 200% one. But one can never forget to give human nature credit where it's due.
Don't like it? Walk.
Its f'ing psycho. $2.76 for gas.
Stop driving huge cars, assholes.
Not really. Peak oil is inevitable but we're not there yet. The problem is a toxic combination of corporate and personal greed (I need my H2!) and political instability, not a lack of supply at the present.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vasteel
(NY) I just filled my 95 Taurus @ $2.93/gallon. My dad filled up his 00 Odyssey for like $2.97 and both at regular. Within the next week or so, it will be above $3. Time to build me a Back To The Future car with a blender on my trunk!
I <3 this widget. Thank you!Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
2.79 here, its a good thing i walk to work.
I think it was more dangerous when the law was passed... and they just never bothered changing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
It always seems to come up for debate every few years, though.
All cars use gas, everyone needs to fill up some time. I paid 2.65 for regular today, I hope it doesn't get much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Amen to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I mean, you don't have to go all hybrid to make a difference, just something with reasonable milage..
It's unbelievable how many monster-truck type vehicles with only one person inside (usually a small woman) that I see on the road every day around here.
People love to complain about prices, yet people are still buying SUV's.
On second thought, none of this shit is going to end until they investigate the price-fixing going on.
I think gas was around $2.79 last time I bought it. Though I need more tonight. Shit...
Double amen to that. No housewife needs an H2 to pick up the groceries or the kids from soccer practice. SUV's are terrible in every way, from guzzling gas to blocking other driver's views to anihilating smaller cars in accidents and unnecessarily injuring people.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnk_
to be fair, every bit of news i have heard has said that those gas guzzling monsters have been selling poorly lately, precisely for this reason. about time too really.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnk_
I drive a 2001 Mitsu Mirage ES 4 door. I get gas everyday. Its impossible for me to stop driving. I have to earn a living. I live 66 miles form my work and I get paid for it, but still $2.79 for gas is ridiculous. And its not even premium. Worst part is the media has not mentioned a lick about it. Soon we'll be conditioned to think $2.50 for gas is okay. NO ITS NOT! .85 cents is okay. That's what it was when I started to drive.
Look on the bright side, if you keep the piece of shit for 10 years, you might break even on buying that faggy hybrid.Quote:
Originally Posted by TobalRox
Bull. Where do YOU live?Quote:
Originally Posted by avatar
I miss those $0.85 a gallon days. Damn.
Apparently if 1/3 of SUVs in the US changed to diesel (which is the natural fuel for an SUV, which is a work vehicle) it would save 1.4 million barrels of oil a day.
You should consider a TDI engine. Trade in your '01 Mirage for a '01 Jetta GL TDI and your MPG will go from 26/32mpg to 42/49mpg ... plus your gas tank will increase by 2 gallons allowing you to easily go 3-4 days easy without filling up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
I've known a few folks who had long commutes (50+ miles each way) and most of them bought TDI's simply for the fuel economy.
Plus with a TDI if the shit really hits the fan and gas becomes $10/gallon ... you can convert to peanut oil or some other hippy shit. :)
Buzz ~ Thanks for the heads up. I've been wondering about the economy of a TDI. And I had noone to ask for an opinion on it. So, thanks; next question is this ... Is it auto or manual? I don't know how to drive stick. Plus traveling down the NJ Turnpike, sometimes stick gets to be a PITA! Just curious.
BTW, Avatar apparently lives in Fantasy Land along with the sugarplum fairies.
I get 25 mpg, and drive 250 miles/week, so I get a nice even 10 gallons every week. It's pretty lame that in the span of a few weeks I spent $5 more a week on gas, but what can I do? I can't walk; school is 8 miles away, and work is 12 miles away. Oh well.
Yes you can get the VW Jetta TDI's in Auto or 5 speed manual.
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Originally Posted by Mikey
I'd love to shove this in people's faces.
That seems a bit implausible... we use about 22 billion barrels so you're talking about over 5% of the daily US oil usage... or are you talking about the entire world's fleet of SUVs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
No in 10 years the batteries will need replacing, which will cost thousands, not to mention all the earth killing by-products of the manufacture and inevitable recycling of the those batteries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Bio-Diesel/Hydrogen/CNG FTW.
I drove to the beach and 3/4ths of the vehicles I saw on the highway were trucks, vans or SUV's. I really didn't think we had gotten that dumb. I hate America.
Even if this is a slam against me, I have to say "good call" to you. Perfect use. Anyway, I wasn't saying it like that, i'm not saying everyone needds to run out and get one, etc... just saying that even though I fill up less often than I did in my old car, it's still a lot more spent on gas, which is fucked up. $2.77 in MA is what I've seen it around, and in CT it's always worse (Which is why I also hop the border to get gas).Quote:
Originally Posted by soundwave
Why do you call it a piece of shit, because it doesn't go 0-60 in 5 seconds? Come on, it's the same as my old car (Civic) just with better mileage (hell it had more features standard too). It wasn't that much more money either, considering what some cars cost, and I was helped out financially as part of a graduation gift. It's not one of those ugly Incites or Prius hybrids, it looks and drives just like a regular car. Get over yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
$0.88 when I first got my license in 1997.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighter-X
A much better post than Yoshi's... something based on fact, with more reasoning than "its faggy." Trust me, I get shit all the time, but fuck it... I have a car I like that saves me money now, and is better than my old car in every possible way. I hate the thought of what will happen in 10 years, but unfortunately I didn't know about all that when I first started looking for a new car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
Just teasing. Personally I hope Hydrogen Fuel Cell takes off in the near future. 99% fewer emissions and water is the primary waste byproduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by TobalRox
If everyone was using smaller tanks the oil companies would probably just raise the price to make up the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
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Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
'America,' which could mean either the US or the entire continent, such is the imprecision of language these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
1.4 million over 22 billion - Wouldn't that be only 0.0063%?
Anyway, I read it in the motoring section of a newspaper. It was a quiz question/answer and no source was quoted, unfortunately.
Maybe they've factored in trucks as well. According to Top Gear that Ford pickup is the best selling vehicle in the world from US sales alone. They gave it a dreadful review - Huge engine, rear-wheel-drive with the weight at the front. A real death-trap.
Err I meant 22 million in this country. Sorry. I hope its accurate.
Um...maybe because they sell oil? Questioning the record earnings of oil companies for 2005 and likely 2006 is like questioning why homebuilders have enriched themselves during the period of high housing prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Four components go into gas prices: 1) the price of crude oil, 2) refining cost and margin, 3) state and Fed taxes, and 4) distribution and marketing. Of these four, three are pretty much in their consistent ranges. The difference, of course, is #1, the price of crude oil, now touching $70/barrel. The price of crude oil is set by traders on the NYMEX, so go blame them, then blame the turmoil in Iran, Iraq, and Nigeria, blame diminishing supply and ever-increasing demand from India and China, etc. Whatever you do, brace yourself because there are many who expect prices to hit $100/barrel in the near future.
Fuck this, I'm buying a bike.
Personally, I was going for a trike.Quote:
Originally Posted by voltz
It's around $2.50 here.
$2.72 where I'm @. I have like a little more than 1/2 a tank. I can get by till next week. I'm secretly hoping it'll drop a little by next Tues, but I think I'm fooling myself.
Awesome prices. Glad I drive 40 miles to and from work everyday. I'm going to try to push filling up every 5th work day. I dont think I can make it though. My car is suppose to get 40mpg but I dont think its that high. I drive an 04' Corrolla S BTW. It has 400 HP! No lie!
Driving faster than 60-65 rapes gas mileage, keep that in mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog
Sadly, people have. It looks good to them, but it burns a ton of oil and gas. I don't understand the allure. I can't count the accidents I've nearly seen happen because of some soccer-mom behind the wheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq
Guess I lucked out. I live 5 minutes from work (in clear traffic). It's like 2 miles from my front door to my job. Saves a hell of a lot on gas.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog
It's true, not that I ever care about it. Gas mileage (the ones they have posted in the windows at dealerships) are based on tests conducted at 50 mph. Wind resistance like...increases exponentially. Triples, I believe, as you go up. So at 80 mph your wind resistance is WAY more than it is at 60 mph, by a hugely significant amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Gooch~ The price of a barrel of oil ended at $71. AAA expects the price to go up ... reason? Hurricane season.
But your four reason are all valid. They are the reason. I just find saying the Hurrican season will raise prices is BS. Depleted supply is a vaild reason, Iraq,Nigeria, and Iran.
At 2 miles would it not make sense to use a bike? Is the route dangerous? Does it rain a lot?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fighter-X
Another reason prices have increased is due to legislation. I understand there was a recent mandate to replace MTBE (methyl tertiary, butyl ether) with ethanol. MTBE was found to be carcinogenic and there were concerns about leakage seeping into ground water supplies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
Hit $2.99 yesterday :(
This is does indeed sucks, since I do have to drive about 45 miles a day, and even with my Corolla giving me great mileage, it still requires fill ups too often.
I keep telling myself I won't go faster than that on Rt 50, but I always do.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Yeah I drive the NJ Turnpike every day and I keep telling myself to drive slow, but when I see cars pass me and the flow of traffic faster than me. My foot tends to gow down on that gas pedal.
And Gooch again your right. It just sucks though.
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
No shit, but when the speed limit is 70......
It's not a speed minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog
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Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq
Then why dont you drive 10 mph slower than the rest of the traffic.
It's called being in the right lane. Truckers follow this 55-65 rule all the time to save gas.
You're really bad at this intelligent discussion thing. What are you going to assume about me next?
U ninja and your in Iraq.
:)
LOL.
That might be true, but is not realistic for everyone. California's emissions laws do not allow (new) diesel vehicles to be sold, (and hence, very few gas stations that dish out diesel) so there really isn't a choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
This shit is nothing new the fuckin gas assholes having been doing this forever, raising lowering raising lowering. They fuckin raise it to 3 a gal. then drop it to 2.50 to make people feel like $2.50 is cheap, those fuckers. Drill in god damn Alaska already, FUCK! lol. Screw the Arab's oil. And what about fuckin off-shore drilling? Does not the US have a FUCKLOAD of shores? lol See, what our fuckin' corrupt ass greedy govt. is doing is just keeping all the oil here in the US in reserves and gettin' foreign oil for 'cheap' in relative terms. The ritch fuckers are always the greediest people...Our government needs major change. Obviously.
Alaska don't got shit and its just delaying the inevitable. It solves no problems.
But we are allowed to drill off shore, problem was Katrina wiped out most of those pumps. But it still doesn't excuse the mass amount of Reserves we already have.
Our reserves are hardly massive, less than two months at current usage.
Alaska is HUUUUUUUUUGE. I don't buy itQuote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
But what about the 95% of the rest of our shores? lmao. The govt. really took advantage of this whole Katrina BS, including that lame excuse by our govt. to raise prices...Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
So is Texas, but most of the oil is gone. And guess what, companies spend billions every year to search for new sources across the globe. They admit its getting harder to find them.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevincal
Oil is a finite resource. Once it gets burned up its gone forever. Delaying Peak Oil for 10 years while also turning Alaska, our most beautiful and pristine state, into a polluted husk is NOT sound policy.
As such the logical solution to this problem is to wean ourselves off oil and onto some other energy source. Not to drill for more fucking oil.
lmao, like any of us peons really know how much oil Bush and his buddies have got. Of course they're gonna be all, "omg we have hardly any oil," Cus if we all knew they really had a shitload, well, we'd all be really pissed that we had anything to do with the middle-east in the 1st place. And everyone knows what fucking around in the middle east has cost us.... :\Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I was talking about the SPR.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevincal
Please come back to this thread when you grow a brain.
And how long have they been drilling in TX? lol btw Alaska is ONE FIFTH the size of the entire US mainland. TX ain't got shit on Alaska. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
@ diff- You really do believe everything you read don't you...lol
No, you really don't have a clue what the fuck you're talking about. The Anwar (sp?) reserve in Alaska has less oil in it than we would have saved had we not deregulated in the 80s. The drilling in Alaska shit buys you a few months, at most, of gas. The push for it has little to do with oil, and a lot to do with politics and approval. STFU.Quote:
Originally Posted by kevincal
Cost me $30 to fill my tank today - it normally takes me about $25. We're still at $2.72 on the base. Outside the base is about the same.
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Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq
I assume that your naked and drinking Hi-C.
Ever watch the show 30 Days? It hasn't been on lately (I don't think), but it was the guy that did Super Size Me getting a show on FX where they try other things for 30 days. One episode had two "power hogs" living in a commune with little electricity and power. In one segment they show him going to a Honda plant and he actually drank the water from the exhaust... it didn't taste good, but he did it haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundwave
My car has a realtime mileage meter, and I don't come close to it. I usually get 42-43 vs. the 49+ I'm "supposed" to get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
So you're trying to tell me that there is a total of ONE reserve in all of a Alaska...RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT... :lol: :bang:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vasteel
Repeated for the millionth time, even if Alaska had a ton of oil, it's only delaying it. We are going to run out of fuel if we don't do something other than rely on the same old shit.
I want one of those cars that runs off of vegetable oil. I just hope we don't run out of vegetables now. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq
I want a car that runs off love. When i start screaming and pissing at people, it cuts off.
Nothing beats smelling like fries all day! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
...we have those, they are called deisels.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
You can either make the fuel yourself (which means all you have to do is change a few hoses) or convert the engine to run off pure vegetable oil.
In Brazil they're now over 50% energy independent using sugar ethanol, which is far superior to corn we use here in the US but about equal to the switch grass used in Europe.
I want the opposite. The more I bitch, the faster it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Finch
I don't want a pussy car. I want one that runs off animal lard, particularly the human animal. Every fat fuck that won't get off his couch should be ground up and used to run my engine so that he can be useful for the first time in his life.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
Baby seal oil?
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Originally Posted by g0zen
http://www.harpseals.org/images/clubbing1.jpg
it's on the way.
I saw something on 60 minutes about 3 months ago that talked about using oil sands.
Cow Manure can also be used as fuel.
Between these, solar, wind, and water we should be able to ween ourselves off oil.
I don't see why not.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
I saw $3.15 for regular today. :(
Holy shit. I spend about 27 dollars every two weeks. I love my Neon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirikur
Animegirl - Quoting Carlito Cool: That's NOT cool.
How far do you live from work ... two feet?
Ten miles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate05
uhhhh ... damn. Wish I lived that far from work.
66 miles to East Winsor, NJ and 72 miles to East Brunswick. Those are the two Comcast Payment centers I work at.
I am in the same situation as animegirl, work is only 10 miles away and I fill up once every two weeks.
You're such moaners! Some of us pay almost $7 a gallon.
Yea, and Europe is much smaller, more dense than most of the US.