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Diff, I think he's just saying that it helps to have a realistic understanding of just how much change the bible has gone through over the centuries (massive editing, things being lost or discarded, "creative" translations, etc), not to mention how much language has changed as well (people try to read the bible without considering the context of when it was written, so modern sensibilities and inferences seep in when it was never intended that way). I think it makes much more sense to view it as a guide rather than assuming a bible from the local Christian bookstore is the 100% accurate word of God.

Unless you're reading a first edition, of course. But I doubt it.

People have always shaped their religion around their behavior. Conflicts only arise when behavior changes but religion doesn't.

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So then what the hell is the point? If anything and everything is okay than there is no point (and maybe thats the true reality). People today seem to shape their religion around their behavior, instead of vice versa. Maybe that is how it should be, but logically it seems like it shouldn't.

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Making excuses to cross the rules is easier than following them. Who wants to not have sex outside of marriage? Lets just do it and say there's a misinterpretation. I agree with Shidoshi that there is discrepencies in the text, and most of the assumption on hell, heaven and what's considered sexual deviancy were written by Saints since the book was written.

For instance, saying fuck, shit, bitch, cunt, tit, bitch, ass, motherfucker, etc. isn't expressively forbidden in the Bible, yet a lot of die-hard Christian's will claim you need to repent. The Bible makes it clear that you are to cleanse your tongue as it pertains towards others and how it makes them feel. Telling you to "Go jump in a lake." when you say something I dislike is no different from telling someone to fuck off. Modern slang and cussing wasn't around back then. If you stub your toe and say shit, or yell out fuck there's no harm in it because it's not malicious.

Make no bones about it though: Disregarding the Bible entirely is ridiculous, and there's nothing remotely Christian about it. Being skeptical? Well, that's just human.

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or just http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/ for all your wacky bible quote needs!

The Bible isn't time-proof. Look at the drastic differences between the Old and New Testament. I think it's about that time where someone with an overly active imagination to write a sequel to the Bible.

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I think these people aren't good Christians either, and they way overemphasize homosexuality, but that doesn't change the fact that you can't be "Gay and Proud" or whatever while being a good Christian. It just doesn't compute.

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There are interpretations that call god's view of homosexuality into question. How reasonable they are can be settled in a debate I guess, but interpretations amongst christians differ so much between them(including the ones with magical interpretations given as gifts by the holy spirit) that it's hardly grounds to say they aren't good christians in itself.

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Making excuses to cross the rules is easier than following them. Who wants to not have sex outside of marriage? Lets just do it and say there's a misinterpretation...

...For instance, saying fuck, shit, bitch, cunt, tit, bitch, ass, motherfucker, etc. isn't expressively forbidden in the Bible, yet a lot of die-hard Christian's will claim you need to repent.

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tricksy.

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The Bible isn't time-proof. Look at the drastic differences between the Old and New Testament. I think it's about that time where someone with an overly active imagination to write a sequel to the Bible.

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So then what the hell is the point? If anything and everything is okay than there is no point (and maybe thats the true reality).

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I think it is. Morality and the concepts of right and wrong (and their varying degrees) are simply human inventions. But how you choose to live your life bears no true consequences, at least as far as your "soul" or "afterlife" goes.

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The Bible isn't time-proof. Look at the drastic differences between the Old and New Testament. I think it's about that time where someone with an overly active imagination to write a sequel to the Bible.

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Hey, why not have someone write The Even Newer Testament? They could hype it as "The sequel to the best-selling book of all-time."

It needs more sex. The New Testament is sorely lacking. Also pictures of said sex would help.

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Social behavior can not be static.

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Conan: The riddle... of steel.

Thulsa Doom: Yes! You know what it is, don't you boy? Shall I tell you? It's the least I can do. Steel isn't strong, boy, flesh is stronger! Look around you. There, on the rocks; that beautiful girl. Come to me, my child...

[the girl jumps to her death]

Thulsa Doom: That is strength, boy! That is power! What is steel compared to the hand that wields it? Look at the strength in your body, the desire in your heart, I gave you this! Such a waste. Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe. Crucify him!

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