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19 Apr 2006, 12:10 AM
Drewbacca

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Originally Posted by rezo

tricksy.

I did phrase it oddly (welcome to my posts), but altering the meaning of The Bible to shun the use of curse words almost exclusively is bending the interpretation to fit societal demands.
19 Apr 2006, 12:14 AM
Fe 26

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Conan: The riddle... of steel.

Thulsa Doom: Yes! You know what it is, don't you boy? Shall I tell you? It's the least I can do. Steel isn't strong, boy, flesh is stronger! Look around you. There, on the rocks; that beautiful girl. Come to me, my child...

[the girl jumps to her death]

Thulsa Doom: That is strength, boy! That is power! What is steel compared to the hand that wields it? Look at the strength in your body, the desire in your heart, I gave you this! Such a waste. Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe. Crucify him!

I don't know what exactly that had to do with what I said, but Conan is always a good read, so please continue.
19 Apr 2006, 01:39 AM
Master of 7s

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Originally Posted by sethsez

So how does that fit into Christian institutions kicking people out?

It doesn't and that was never my point.

I stated that it was possible to be a religious homosexual, but not a Christian one and everything just took off from there.
19 Apr 2006, 01:50 AM
StriderKyo

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Originally Posted by sethsez

THANK YOU. It's always nice to see someone who is aware what aspects of his religion are based in holy texts and what aspects were shaped by society since then. :)

Well, no. There ws that whole incident with God nuking a town over it. The Bible is clearly not pro-homosexual.

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

I'm not defining anything, I believe what the Bible says, that is all.

Really? How many dead witches you up to so far?
19 Apr 2006, 02:09 AM
Finch

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Originally Posted by Master of 7s

I stated that it was possible to be a religious homosexual, but not a Christian one and everything just took off from there.

What is a Christian? A person who has never sinned? A person who never wants to sin? A person who does not intend to sin? A person who believes Jesus died to save them from their sins and intends to uphold his teachings?

You can not be a human and be a Christian.
19 Apr 2006, 02:15 AM
Master of 7s

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Unless, of course, you believe the Bible isn't the true word of God, which it isn't.

Personal experience and the testimony of hundreds tells me and millions of others otherwise.

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You can still believe in the Christian God, and in the basic ideas of Jesus, and understand that the Bible isn't hard fact and might have some of the basics wrong.

You can do no such thing and call yourself a true Christian. Either you believe God's Word or you don't. There's no wiggle room there.

Granted, however, there are things written, particulary in the book of Hebrews, that were specific to the culture and time that they written and have no bearing on modern day dealings.

Ultimately it makes no difference, though. Even if one were to read the Bible from cover to cover and have an expert explain everything to you, one would never understand it unless they were granted understanding by the Holy Spirit. Asking for that understanding would be simple enough, but this would be an act of faith and acknowledgement of a Being which you believe does not exist. Understanding would never come until a decision was made to believe.

"If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach and it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. Let not that man suppose he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways." James 1:4-8

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

Really? How many dead witches you up to so far?

Haven't met any. If you know some send 'em my way.

I didn't build that big vat of water and dunking platform for my health.

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Originally Posted by Finch

You can not be a human and be a Christian.

You are absolutely correct, save for the eternal grace of God.
19 Apr 2006, 02:18 AM
Calliander

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Originally Posted by MarsKitten

Ya know, being a fag or dyke isn't a person's defining attribute, it just happens to be for other people. There's alot of very religous homos out there.

I wasn't trying to say that gay people can't be religious, but why would they want to go somewhere people will taunt (and possibly hurt) them?

Anyway, I agree with this:

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

I think private colleges should be able to reject anybody they want for any reason whatsoever.
19 Apr 2006, 02:23 AM
ChaoofNee

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You can do no such thing and call yourself a true Christian. Either you believe God's Word or you don't. There's no wiggle room there.

The priest that taught my theology class in high school would beg to differ.
19 Apr 2006, 02:24 AM
Calliander

I was just thinking, though. Doesn't this thing go against the first line of the first Amendment?

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,
19 Apr 2006, 02:25 AM
Finch

Oooooh. Okay.

Anyway, i feel better now, and i can't argue with the eternal grace of God thing. While we're at it, colleges suck. It sucks that a lot of them cost so damn much.

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