Who'll be running for president in 2008?

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

And lets be real, Republicans have been in power since 1994 and in absolute power since 2001, if you don't like the direction the country has gone there's only one party to blame (well, you can blame the Dems insofar as they never acted like a proper opposition party).

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That's a weak argument. Republicans have fucked up a lot, but so have Democrats. Neither party is willing to stop illegal immigration or corporate welfare. The ideal president would be Giuliani since he's got the most common sense ideology, but he won't win. John McCain will be the next president. Hillary has no shot, 75% of the population hates her. The more she screams and flip flops around based on poll numbers the more transparent she becomes.

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

That's a weak argument. Republicans have fucked up a lot, but so have Democrats.

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Bullshit. Since September 11th the Democrats have given Republicans carte blanche power (that is their only mistake - really the only mistake they can make) and the Republicans have taken advantage of that. There is no bipartisanship in the White House and Democrats have been mostly ignored throughout. It is ridiculous to blame anyone but the Republicans for the problems we have gotten ourselves into since 2001 - they are overwhelmingly in control of the HOUSE, SENATE, and WHITE HOUSE. Don't be delusional.

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Neither party is willing to stop illegal immigration or corporate welfare.

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Well Republicans have been in charge since 2001 and have sat around while these problems have spun out of control. With regards to the corporate welfare, I really have to laugh - this is the most pro-corporate Administration ever.

It's really sad to watch SpoDaddy still unwaveringly spout the party line even as he watches them nosedive.

I love this RINO nonsense too. The GOP cant even get along with itself.

Jeb Bush '08

I'm not defending Republicans, I'm just saying Democrats haven't done any better. They haven't even been good at complaining about Republicans.

You've been defending Republicans and blindly smearing Dems as long as I've seen you post. I don't see you changing much in the near future either.

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

I'm not defending Republicans, I'm just saying Democrats haven't done any better.

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They haven't had the opportunity to do anything.

I'm a Republican, of course my bias leans that way, none of us are free of bias. That said I've been pretty objective, I have huge issues with Bush and I'm actually looking forward to his term being over at this point. Right now Democrats are wrong on everything and Republicans are wrong on everything except killing terrorists.

And who are the terrorists lately?