What if Sega....

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Originally Posted by Daitokuji

No, I'm not confusing the DC with the saturn. I remember reading about the saturn's history and where SoJ had the saturn we know in development and SoA had one more comparable to the playstation. I would provide links, but it seems like the web site i saw it at is no more. So i guess that story doesn't exist.

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I remember the story of Saturn initially designed as a 2D machine until PS1's specs were released, at which point they added additional 'off-the-shelf' parts to compensate. I also remember SoA scrambling to develop the 32X under SoJ's orders, although SoA had to find out for themselves that the Saturn was in development in Japan. Too bad you don't have a link to offer.

Sega CD and 32x killed Sega. It was just confusing and there was too much shit. Saturn came out very shortly after the 32x, didn't look much better, and cost $100 more than the PS1. It's obvious what happened after that.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Define several.

Sega
Jet Set Radio Future
Panzer Dragoon Orta

Nintendo
Pikmin 1 & 2

If you lower the standard to "good" from "great" a few more would trickle in.

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Advance Wars? Fire Emblem? Animal Crossing? Maybe they don't count because they are old jIP?

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Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq

Sega CD and 32x killed Sega. It was just confusing and there was too much shit. Saturn came out very shortly after the 32x, didn't look much better, and cost $100 more than the PS1. It's obvious what happened after that.

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It's funny how horribly Sega missed the mark. Their idea was to crudely tack CD storage and a 32-bit upgrade onto the successful Genesis console.. when all they should have done was make a Saturn with Genesis BC.

Oh god, not the “this is why sega died/sucks” debate again.

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Originally Posted by RoleTroll

Advance Wars? Fire Emblem? Animal Crossing? Maybe they don't count because they are old jIP?

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No, because they're not great.

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Originally Posted by IronPlant

Oh god, not the “this is why sega died/sucks” debate again.

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Was there any doubt that this could go any other way?

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Originally Posted by Andy

Eat a dick. Both Sega and Nintendo have made several great games this generation. Stop trying to look cool on a fucking video game message board.

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Wake up and smell the shitty software publishers. What the hell has Sega done as a 3rd party? Jack. Fucking. Shit. The last game worthy a non-bargain bin purchase from sega has been Orta.

Nintendo still has twitches of life, but its getting close to time to pull the plug.

It's hard when a friend from your childhood dies. Its okay, once you accept it, the healing can begin.

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Originally Posted by Wildkat

Wake up and smell the shitty software publishers. What the hell has Sega done as a 3rd party? Jack. Fucking. Shit. The last game worthy a non-bargain bin purchase from sega has been Orta.

Nintendo still has twitches of life, but its getting close to time to pull the plug.

It's hard when a friend from your childhood dies. Its okay, once you accept it, the healing can begin.

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3 words... Virtua Fighter 4

Virtua Fighter 4 came out like a year before Orta.

And honestly people, Orta isn't even really that good.

Edit: VF4 was awesome though, no question.