No Burrito for You

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Originally Posted by diffusionx

Integration has always happened fast with all ethnic groups and its happening fast now with Hispanics. The Bush Cult likes to talk about them like they're walling themselves off from everyone else but its pure BS.

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Yeah they want them to completely forfiet their previous culture overnight, yet every year New York has Italian pride parades down Littly Italy with the Italian flag flying everywhere. Same with Irish in Boston.

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Originally Posted by Bacon

Agreed wholeheartedly. If there was a country I could easily enter illegally (with no penalty) and recieve higher wages than I would in my own country, I'd do it. The popular angle that the central issue here is that people are taking our jobs is a complete myth, the fact is that American businesses are the ones dangling the carrot here, they're the ones that are actively turning low-skilled jobs into a mercenary, lowest-bidder wins type proposition.

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This is true. The fine that businesses face is $10,000 if caught hiring illegals. If they are saving that much every week or every month, the reward outweights the risk. That fine should be $100,000 or $1,000,000 to help bankrupt anyone hiring them. That would solve the problem much more quickly.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

They came in not long after the Revolution into New York and sold shoes for about 2 generations before moving south to Virginia. They never bothered with the process because back then there was no process. People just came and set-up shop.

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See, that's exactly why I asked when it happened, and that's the difference between then and now. According to you, there was "no process" back then. Okay, fine, that's totally cool. But today there is.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Yeah they want them to completely forfiet their previous culture overnight, yet every year New York has Italian pride parades down Littly Italy with the Italian flag flying everywhere. Same with Irish in Boston.

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I don't have to see Italian on the menu at McDonald's. Pride is one thing. Not assimilating is another.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

My logic is fine. If you're the kid of legal citizens (or people who are in the process of becoming so), then you're legal. If your parents are illegal, so are you. It may not seem fair but by your logic everyone regardless of skills, criminal history, whatever, should be allowed to come here, procreate, and automatically enjoy the benefits their kid gets them.

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Well that's the creedo; "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

We should focus on deporting blacks.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Yeah they want them to completely forfiet their previous culture overnight, yet every year New York has Italian pride parades down Littly Italy with the Italian flag flying everywhere. Same with Irish in Boston.

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Heh. Yeah, they love to brag about what a "melting pot" this country is, except when it comes to these pesky noobs.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Pride is one thing. Not assimilating is another.

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I will agree that people who live in this country for, like, 20 years and don't speak a work of English annoy the fuck out of me. Otherwise, I don't care.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I don't have to see Italian on the menu at McDonald's. Pride is one thing. Not assimilating is another.

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Studies have shown that the kids of Hispanic immigrants are as fluent in English as the kids of any other immigrants. Do you have any Asian friends? That speak perfect English? Do they have fobby parents that speak very poor English? I rest my case.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Well that's the creedo; "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me: I lift my lamp beside the golden door."

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Wow, that's pretty catchy. You just write that?

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Originally Posted by Raz0r

We should focus on deporting blacks.

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omg you're so insensitive.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Wow, that's pretty catchy. You just write that?

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Nah, I heard it from this tall French chick.