Official Sony E3 2006 Press Conference Thread

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09 May 2006, 03:32 PM
Diff-chan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jester

Did anyone else notice this fucker is going to weigh 12 pounds. And it's goimg to be 12x3x10. How much did the first Zboz weigh and what were it's dimensions?

Xbox 1 was: 12.6 in wide x 4 in high x 10.2 in deep

And weighed 8.8 pounds.

LOL this motherfucking PS3 is Xduke sized.
09 May 2006, 03:38 PM
Advocate

So, can we expect the jap public won't buy it because of the girth?

PS3 is teh new Xbrick.
09 May 2006, 03:58 PM
Brisco Bold

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advocate

So, can we expect the jap public won't buy it because of the girth?

I'm curious what the Japanese response is...
09 May 2006, 04:07 PM
WTFer

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advocate

So, can we expect the jap public won't buy it because of the girth?

PS3 is teh new Xbrick.

they'll just sell their cars & place the Ps3 in their garage.
09 May 2006, 04:31 PM
RoleTroll

I would imagine the $600 price tag will hurt the blu-ray format. The blu-ray format just went from a format you could safely purchase DVDs for, knowing it would be the next format, to a format likely to lose to HD-DVD.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advocate

So, can we expect the jap public won't buy it because of the girth?

PS3 is teh new Xbrick.

No, size only matters when it's an American manufacturer having the biggest unit. Size doesn't matter if you are Japanese, which in their case is very fortunate.
09 May 2006, 04:45 PM
Jeremy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dolemite

Okay, the PS3 is $600. That's way fucking expensive. Sony needs to realize that they're making a game console. All that extra stuff is neat but not when it comes at that expense. If it's going to inflate that price that much, don't fucking put it in. Sony won't stop until they create a console that will take the place of EVERYTHING in a person's home- TV, DVD player, TiVo, PC, refrigerator, dishwasher, ironing board, furniture, etc.

Anyway, the games are underwhelming, but they always are on any launch console.

The $500 retard pack having no memory stick, HDMI, or WiFi support = SUPER GAY.

Tekken 6 looks like watery poo.

No chance I'll buy a PS3 at launch (or anywhere near). I'll need at least one good price drop on the $600 version before I even give it a tought. However, this isn't driving me into the arms of a 360, either. Maybe I'll just use the spare time to work on my pile o' shame and more meaningful hobbies.

Same here. A PC's worth the extra expense to me. The PS3 isn't.

Good point. Consoles are really catching up to PCs in that regard. If anything, PC prices have been drastically falling lately. You can get a good PC now for not too much more than a PS3.

IDBTN

Metal Gear sucks.

Haha, nice find.

I liked it. It's confortable and works well. I'm just glad that dropped the banana.

Sad about no more rumble, though.

I missed seeing the lack of rumble on the pad before - that's terrible. I'm sure they'll come out with a revamped version later that has it, but it's basically a standard feature now, and one that does add to games when being used well. I do love the irony of Sony being the first to build it into the pad itself, and yet their next pad will lack it.
09 May 2006, 04:47 PM
Diff-chan

rumble is fucking terrible. No game besides Rez uses it well.
09 May 2006, 04:49 PM
Advocate

But role isn't that video game racism? Wasn't the reason the first X-Box did not succeeed over there attributed to the size of the system? Now Sony is releasing a system roughly the same size and the Japanese are fawning over it like its naked pics of Elisha Cuthbert.
09 May 2006, 04:50 PM
Dolemite

Yeah, they announced that the PS3 controller will be rumble-less, because it would interfere with the motion sensor.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705934p1.html
09 May 2006, 04:51 PM
Advocate

They'll probably charge for the rumbled version of the PS3 controller like fifty bucks.
09 May 2006, 05:00 PM
marwan

what about the wii controller, will that thing be rumbleless too since it has a motion sensor?
09 May 2006, 05:05 PM
RoleTroll

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advocate

But role isn't that video game racism?

Let's call it nationalism.
09 May 2006, 05:07 PM
kedawa

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoleTroll

No, size only matters when it's an American manufacturer having the biggest unit. Size doesn't matter if you are Japanese, which in their case is very fortunate.

I think what it boils down to is that the japanese just want theirs to be the biggest.
The XBOX just made them insecure.
09 May 2006, 05:08 PM
Clash!

Quote:

Originally Posted by marwan

what about the wii controller, will that thing be rumbleless too since it has a motion sensor?

http://wii.nintendo.com/images/controller_features2.png
09 May 2006, 05:09 PM
Advocate

Role ~ LOL!
kEDAWA ~ LOL x 20!!!!

EDIT: That rumble pic for the Wii controller scares me. It looks like a ladies ... uhhh. I guess the japs really are horny slant eyed bastards.
09 May 2006, 05:28 PM
Zerohero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advocate

Role ~ LOL!
kEDAWA ~ LOL x 20!!!!

EDIT: That rumble pic for the Wii controller scares me. It looks like a ladies ... uhhh. I guess the japs really are horny slant eyed bastards.

Na, the ladies already use their cell phons for that.
09 May 2006, 05:48 PM
Advocate

LOL!

God we turned this PS3 thread to "EVERYONE elses console thread"
09 May 2006, 06:00 PM
RoleTroll

With the $600 price, Sony turned E3 into an "everyone elses console show"
09 May 2006, 06:01 PM
sethsez

Yeah, their hubris caught up to them this time.
09 May 2006, 06:03 PM
Giga Power

Damn straight.
09 May 2006, 06:12 PM
Advocate

^I agree with the last three posts. Sony dropped the ball, stepped on it, then laid a big ass turd on the ball. Then in Japanese fetish custom licked the shit covered ball.

Six hundred dollars.

I am telling all the customers coming in to pay their bills about it and they are all freaking.
09 May 2006, 06:13 PM
Anal Kaboom

...360 it is then...
09 May 2006, 06:22 PM
Error

Boy was I way off. So much for shocking the world with a cheap price.
09 May 2006, 06:24 PM
Zerodash

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advocate

They'll probably charge for the rumbled version of the PS3 controller like fifty bucks.

Nope. Sony took out the rumble feature so they don't have to pay those nasty royalty fees to Immersion...
09 May 2006, 06:25 PM
Anal Kaboom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerodash

Nope. Sony took out the rumble feature so they don't have to pay those nasty royalty fees to Immersion...

really? :bs:
09 May 2006, 06:29 PM
Zerodash

Oh, its true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_Corporation
09 May 2006, 06:44 PM
marwan

So the only difference between the two PS3 packs is that one comes with 20GB and the other 60GB? $100 extra for 40GB?

they shuld have just sold the 20GB version, and left the HDD expandable to the consumer. plus leave out the all the memory card support(except memory stick ofcourse), throw out built in wifi(sell add on like xbox or whatever) and give a cheaper PS3to the consumer.

ofcourse this is just me, it wont make a difference since im getting the 60GB pack anyways.
09 May 2006, 06:45 PM
Diff-chan

Quote:

Originally Posted by marwan

So the only difference between the two PS3 packs is that one comes with 20GB and the other 60GB? $100 extra for 40GB?

they shuld have just sold the 20GB version, and left the HDD expandable to the consumer. plus leave out the all the memory card support(except memory stick ofcourse), throw out built in wifi(sell add on like xbox or whatever) and give a cheaper PS3to the consumer.

ofcourse this is just me, it wont make a difference since im getting the 60GB pack anyways.

Goddammit marwan, the reason why people get pissed at you is because YOU DONT READ.

There are many more differences between the packs, and they are outlined in this thread and on any videogame website. Go learn.
09 May 2006, 06:45 PM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by marwan

So the only difference between the two PS3 packs is that one comes with 20GB and the other 60GB? $100 extra for 40GB?

they shuld have just sold the 20GB version, and left the HDD expandable to the consumer. plus leave out the all the memory card support(except memory stick ofcourse), throw out built in wifi(sell add on like xbox or whatever) and give a cheaper PS3to the consumer.

ofcourse this is just me, it wont make a difference since im getting the 60GB pack anyways.

well MS charges $100 for their drive and thats what, 20 gig?
09 May 2006, 06:45 PM
Cowutopia

Quote:

Originally Posted by marwan

So the only difference between the two PS3 packs is that one comes with 20GB and the other 60GB? $100 extra for 40GB?

No, jesus. Read.

The base pack also lacks: WiFi, HDMI output.
09 May 2006, 06:46 PM
Anal Kaboom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerodash

Oh, its true:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersion_Corporation

wow i didnt know that the more you know huh? :D
09 May 2006, 06:47 PM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

WiFi, HDMI output.

as in no port? so people will have a blu ray player and possibly a hi def tv with HDMI (the only way to "experience" blu ray) but be fucked because they bought the cheaper system. lol.
09 May 2006, 06:48 PM
Dolemite

Fuck, marwan, the exact differences between the two have only been bitched about for the last 5-6 pages.
09 May 2006, 06:54 PM
Advocate

Quote:

Originally posted by DiffusionX:

Goddammit marwan, the reason why people get pissed at you is because YOU DONT READ.

There are many more differences between the packs, and they are outlined in this thread and on any videogame website. Go learn.

QOTD!

And Dole is right. I guess if it was 20 pages he would kinda get it ... maybe.
09 May 2006, 07:00 PM
Jeremy

Quote:

Originally Posted by sethsez

Yeah, their hubris caught up to them this time.

I couldn't be happier. The corposes of my dead Sony systems have been avenged.
09 May 2006, 07:07 PM
Zerohero

You guys watching the G4 coverage?
09 May 2006, 07:11 PM
Advocate

I am at work, but they were watching the E3 coverage live via gamespot and other various weblogging sites.
09 May 2006, 07:24 PM
Anal Kaboom

i was watching some rerun coverage last night at my friends house its alright its nice that someone on TV is making a big deal out of it.
09 May 2006, 09:06 PM
marwan

Quote:

Originally Posted by diffusionx

Goddammit marwan, the reason why people get pissed at you is because YOU DONT READ.

There are many more differences between the packs, and they are outlined in this thread and on any videogame website. Go learn.

oops, sorry guys, my bad, i only watched the Sony conference and the fucker never mentioned that the cheaper PS3 lacked, HDMI, WiFi and memory card reader. So i just assumed the extra $100 is for the extra 40GB! plus the fact there is so much shit ti read and keep up with i'm not able to read every single page in all the threads. :cry:

anyways, i like how some of the BD movies will only play using HDMI, so there goes the idiots that buy the cheaper PS3. All of a sudden MS xbox 360 packs make more sense than the PS3s.

:bang:
09 May 2006, 09:07 PM
Cowdisease

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I made a 'Console War' sig for all you PS3 fans.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...chmentid=19304
09 May 2006, 09:10 PM
Tommy Tallarico

I'd like to see the reactions of people with year-old dead Sony systems now that they're $600.
09 May 2006, 09:47 PM
JMET

Quote:

Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq

I'd like to see the reactions of people with year-old dead Sony systems now that they're $600.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowdisease

I made a 'Console War' sig for all you PS3 fans.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...chmentid=19304

My new wallpaper.
09 May 2006, 09:48 PM
Geo

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowdisease

I made a 'Console War' sig for all you PS3 fans.

http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...chmentid=19304

Best sig ever.
09 May 2006, 09:51 PM
g0zen

I think this Civil War stuff has really gone too far.
09 May 2006, 09:53 PM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

I think this Civil War stuff has really gone too far.

nope. its like Mortal Kombat and "your mom".

it must be beaten down.
10 May 2006, 06:18 AM
Cowutopia

Remeber when I said it must have sucked for those developers to have to change their e3 demo in just a couple months to accomodate the tacked-on motion tech? I was wrong, they had a week and a half.

Quote:

Originally Posted by joystiq

That's the impression given by a Eurogamer interview with Warhawk developer Incognito. One of the questions posed in our controller comparison editorial was in relation to how long ago the decision had been made to enhance the PS3 controller with automagical motion sensing capabilities. The article states that the developer only got their hands on the technology within the last two weeks, but the actual response given by Dylan Jobe to one of the questions is far more telling. When prompted about how long they had actually known about it, Jobe responded with, "We've really known officially for about a week and a half, and we did the final tuning just a couple of days ago."

Also, the PS3 is very heavy.
""The $599 PS3 is, however, worth its weight in Uranium. The radioactive substance so popular amongst terrorists is expected to hit $54 a pound this year, meaning that if you choose to buy 11 pounds of Uranium (and why wouldn't you?), you'll actually end up saving $5.""
10 May 2006, 09:08 AM
Korly

Quote:

Originally Posted by g0zen

I think this Civil War stuff has really gone too far.

No way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Also, the PS3 is very heavy.
""The $599 PS3 is, however, worth its weight in Uranium. The radioactive substance so popular amongst terrorists is expected to hit $54 a pound this year, meaning that if you choose to buy 11 pounds of Uranium (and why wouldn't you?), you'll actually end up saving $5.""

I wonder if the PS3 will have a flux capacitator.

Quote:

Originally Posted by diffusionx

rumble is fucking terrible. No game besides Rez uses it well.

Metal Gear Solid was the first and best use of the dual shock I ever experienced. And I think that's a fantastic example of how much vibration can add to games.
10 May 2006, 09:18 AM
Zerohero

Viberation has been underplayed if you ask me. There are so many ways to use it in games I'm shocked they just slack on the simple explosion rumble, and keep going.

How about when your character is tired, have the controller lighly rumble a little. Or on a horror game, when your scared have the characters heart beat faster and simulate this with the rumble feature.

How about 8 way directional rumble?

So sonys statement about "last gen it was about rumble, this gen its about feel" is lame, and they know they couldn't have the rumble feature cause of their lawsuit.
10 May 2006, 09:25 AM
Bacon McShig

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerohero

Or on a horror game, when your scared have the characters heart beat faster and simulate this with the rumble feature.

I take it you've never played a Resident Evil game?
10 May 2006, 09:44 AM
Zerohero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon

I take it you've never played a Resident Evil game?

They didn't use it in every RE game, and usually it only starts when you get hit, not when you are scared.
10 May 2006, 09:57 AM
Bacon McShig

I think Illbleed on DC did rumble for 'scared factor'.
10 May 2006, 10:02 AM
Razor Ramon

Silent Hill has the rumble feature for when you're tired.
10 May 2006, 10:39 AM
Glitch

I love the rumble feature for racing games, even if it is used mildly. I'd gladly give up this gyroscope BS to get my DualShock back.
10 May 2006, 11:19 AM
Zerohero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon

I think Illbleed on DC did rumble for 'scared factor'.

Yea, I wanted to see all of these things used together in a game.
13 May 2006, 01:56 PM
marwan

Playstation 3 User Interface...

http://pspupdates.qj.net/PS3-s-inter...g/49/aid/38576

i like!
13 May 2006, 02:01 PM
Joust Williams

Xbox 360s is still better. Sad.
13 May 2006, 02:06 PM
Dyne

"can the user change the backgorund"

"ummmm we don;t know that yet"

lol well who the fuck would?
13 May 2006, 02:37 PM
marwan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

"can the user change the backgorund"

"ummmm we don;t know that yet"

lol well who the fuck would?

i can answer that question. Yes you can change the background.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

Xbox 360s is still better. Sad.

you'd be surprised!
13 May 2006, 03:14 PM
Schlep

Newest rumor is that the $499 model doesn't support wireless controllers. Looking at that chart from the other day, wireless is indicated for both. Seems more likely the $500 doesn't come with a wireless controller if there's any truth to that article at all.
13 May 2006, 03:20 PM
Rumpy

It also says you can't upgrade the HD if you wanted to. There is so much shit being thrown around who knows what's true at this point. Sony needs to do some damage control.
13 May 2006, 05:03 PM
Dyne

wow http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=16971

first paragraph

"SCEI president Ken Kutaragi has defended the PlayStation 3's high price tag once again, declaring that not only will consumers be prepared to pay the cost but that the console is "probably too cheap.""

too cheap? classic. get off you fucking horse already. you didn't make yourselves without your fans. yes you're putting great tech into it but its meaningless if your system sales die outright once the initial batch is sold through after the people with money to blow got theirs.
13 May 2006, 05:13 PM
Brand X

Quote:

Originally Posted by marwan

Playstation 3 User Interface...

http://pspupdates.qj.net/PS3-s-inter...g/49/aid/38576

i like!

I am not impressed with this, can't Sony come up with something more intuitive then the PSP interface on steroids?
13 May 2006, 05:13 PM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrAnDX105

I am not impressed with this, can't Sony come up with something more intuitive then the PSP interface on steroids?

judging by the live ripoff? no.
13 May 2006, 05:47 PM
marwan

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrAnDX105

I am not impressed with this, can't Sony come up with something more intuitive then the PSP interface on steroids?

seeing how the Playstation name remained for 3 generations and with the same controller, i say the XMB will be around in every Sony product! PS4 and PS5 anyone? :)

anyways, XBL is cool, not great, but i can live with it....with a blue background that is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

judging by the live ripoff? no.

would you rather see a limited and retarded code based Live service like the Wii/DS on the PS3 instead? ...i don't think so!
13 May 2006, 05:53 PM
Jeremy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne

wow http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=16971

first paragraph

"SCEI president Ken Kutaragi has defended the PlayStation 3's high price tag once again, declaring that not only will consumers be prepared to pay the cost but that the console is "probably too cheap.""

too cheap? classic. get off you fucking horse already. you didn't make yourselves without your fans. yes you're putting great tech into it but its meaningless if your system sales die outright once the initial batch is sold through after the people with money to blow got theirs.

The blinding arrogance in Kutaragi's statement is incredible. It shows how out of touch the company is with what most of America wants.
13 May 2006, 05:55 PM
youandwhosearmy

Sony Truly has no fucking idea what they are doing anymore.

I saw this coming when they made the PS2 too hard to develop games for against the outcry of the smaller dev studios, and now we are finally there.

This is Peter Moore's fantasy coming true. I mean, he doesn't even have to try anymore.

Microsoft wins.
13 May 2006, 05:57 PM
Schlep

As down as I am on the PS3 and its price tag, this is a quote to a Japanese publication. From what I remember, the Japanese don't have the same thoughts on value as Americans do. They view something more expensive as more deserving of their money, or something like that. I'm sure shidoshi or the like could clear it up.

Maybe I'm remembering wrong.
13 May 2006, 06:01 PM
youandwhosearmy

Winning Japan isn't winning America, well not anymore anyway.

It just seems to me like Sony decided to lay off their common sense department.
13 May 2006, 06:10 PM
Schlep

I agree. Unless something changes in the way of price between now and launch, Sony's going to have to accept 3rd in the US, and probably Europe/Australia as well. Yes the Playstation brand name is popular, and yes they'll sell out their shipments, but there's just too much going against the thing in the long run.

I mean, if they had shown amazing looking games and some killer apps, then I think you'd see people saying, "yeah, it's $600, but it's amazing!" That's not happening, though, and your average consumer isn't gonna care that it comes with a Bluray drive until at least a couple years from now, assuming bluray doesn't tank in the first place.

I don't have anything against the PS3 or Sony outside of the price. Nothing justifies the extra $200, and I don't want to pay $699-799 for my next game console, so I hope the thing tanks worldwide. Obviously the chance of it tanking in Japan, however, are slim and none.
14 May 2006, 11:47 PM
Master

I know I'm coming off as a fanboy here, but this is too funny not to post!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ

Gold!

I can't stop laughing like an idiot.
14 May 2006, 11:53 PM
Bacon McShig

LOL!

Ah, the Great Giant Crab Battle of Sekigahara... It was a huge turning point for the nation.

They forgot to put in a reference to the interminable demoing of GT HD, though.
14 May 2006, 11:53 PM
Mr.Saxophone

^_^ I like it! ^_^

I'm amazed at just how terrible Sony's press conference was, but if it spawns vidoes like that one then everything balances out.
15 May 2006, 12:04 AM
Rumpy

lol, last 10 seconds is the best.
15 May 2006, 12:08 AM
Master

Japanese response After the press conferences:
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7282/quickpoll9fc.jpg

Japanese response After the show:
http://img302.imageshack.us/img302/5...lupdate5ml.jpg

Interesting stuff...
15 May 2006, 12:29 AM
Andy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master

I know I'm coming off as a fanboy here, but this is too funny not to post!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ

Gold!

I can't stop laughing like an idiot.

Oh man, I can feel the Dr. Pepper in my nose. I almost blew a mouthful all over my monitor. That was so fucking hilarious it was painful.
15 May 2006, 03:53 PM
marwan

lol that was so silly.
15 May 2006, 04:14 PM
DistantRelative

Quote:

Originally Posted by Master

I know I'm coming off as a fanboy here, but this is too funny not to post!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pJElsNaC6yQ

Gold!

I can't stop laughing like an idiot.

LOL, good one.
15 May 2006, 04:39 PM
Jeremy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glitch

I love the rumble feature for racing games, even if it is used mildly. I'd gladly give up this gyroscope BS to get my DualShock back.

The PGRs use it really well, with different intensity levels for it depending on what surfaces you're driving on. It's that kind of use that makes the feature worthwhile, and also the reason I'll miss it on next Sony pad. It'll also hurt the appeal of backwards compatiblity to to a degree, since something will instantly be lost in games that used vibration well.
15 May 2006, 04:42 PM
Drewbacca

599 dollars.
15 May 2006, 06:47 PM
TaekwondoNJ

The thing about rumble is that once you throw your controller across the room, it starts making that annoying "whiirrrrr" sound and no one likes that. So good job Sony, good job.
15 May 2006, 07:30 PM
RoleTroll

Why couldn't Sony allow you to plug in your PS2 controllers to play PS3 games? Sure, they can't make any more rumble controllers. But if a developer includes rumble feature for those using a PS2 controller, and you plug in your ol' DualShock, no harm no foul. For games that use motion sensing, of course, you'd need to use the official PS3 controller.
15 May 2006, 07:49 PM
Nash

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoleTroll

Why couldn't Sony allow you to plug in your PS2 controllers to play PS3 games? Sure, they can't make any more rumble controllers. But if a developer includes rumble feature for those using a PS2 controller, and you plug in your ol' DualShock, no harm no foul. For games that use motion sensing, of course, you'd need to use the official PS3 controller.

I don't think the PS3 will have ports for PS2 controllers. PS3 controllers probably connect to the system via USB.
15 May 2006, 08:27 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

I don't think the PS3 will have ports for PS2 controllers. PS3 controllers probably connect to the system via USB.

most likely the case

specially since they've gotten ride of the PS1/2 Memory Card slots (what the fuck good is BC if I can't access my old game saves sony)

Giant Crab
15 May 2006, 08:41 PM
RoleTroll

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

I don't think the PS3 will have ports for PS2 controllers. PS3 controllers probably connect to the system via USB.

I know you can't. But I think they shoulda included the PS2 controller ports. Cheap and easy way around the lawsuit.
16 May 2006, 02:16 AM
salmonax

They'll probably release a USB adapter for PS2 controllers and memory cards. And a horizontal stand, too.

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