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It's not atrocious game design if it's done in such a way that it still manages to entertain millions of people for years, which is pretty much the entire point of games.
And hey.
Games that came later took all the wrong lessons from Mario 64, but I don't blame that on Mario 64.
My memory is hazy but I remember getting each star involved a different challenge, a different path, whatever. It's not like you did the exact same thing 10 times.
If you actually went for 120 stars, yea, it was tedious, but I beat the game with 80 or 85 and loved it.
It has been a decade since I've played Mario 64 in any depth, but it's funny that what Bacon said is absolutely true, yet it didn't bother me back when I had all the time in the world (college). I probably wouldn't make it past the snow level now because of my lack of patience.
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Originally Posted by Zerohero
Wheres Animal Crossing, NintenDogs, anything having to do with The Sims? Talk about overrated and EASY to trash. Werent there 156 Mario 64s on N64, just with different names? God that system was lame. I mean totally innovative.
That article was booty.
Your mom was booty.
N64 had some good games. Animal Crossing is awesome, they knew not to touch that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameGandalf
I am being a little hyperbolic, but I thought that was sort of what we were doing here. It was good for what it was at the time it happened mostly by virtue of simply being a new experience (which isn't inherently a bad thing).
The problem IMO is that there was a lot of room for improvement in the genre and no one's really stepped up to the plate. If someone made a concerted effort SM64 could be left in the dust easily, not unlike if someone took the GTA formula and applied better art design and improved the gameplay mechanics to be passable individually. Being best by virtue of the immediate competition being worse does not necessarily mean that you're amazing... a pudgy guy can win a race against other pudgier guys doesn't make him an Olympic gold medalist.
To be fair, IP has gotten a lot better.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
And I agree with this list completely. Except for SMB. It's obvious that they were trying way too hard.
It was called Gamefan - it went out of business a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi