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Originally Posted by Magic Box
Alright. I'll take one.
I've never bought anything in Japan.
Doesn't count until we get a price in 'merican. It could still go either way, $200 or $250, with the exchange value given.
I don't think this is actually true, in any case. I think a Japanese man, who possibly works for Nintendo, confirmed that it will be under 25000 Yen, and Magicbox, being Magicbox, posted it as confirmation of a real price. I'd wait for an official US price before believing anything.
That said, I think $250 would be a little high for the technology it's packing. $200 would be ideal to me, but I'll still be there day one. Wii is going to be awesome.
I bet it is $250. If it has a pack-in game, then it would be ideal. If not, then I will wait till it hits $199 or $149.
That means it will probably be $200 here, since games are almost always more expensive in japan. But I guess it could go either way. I won't buy it at $250.
Has anyone said anything about region encoding on Wii? I'd be more eager to purchase if I knew it was import friendly, since I have a feeling support in japan will be much better than in the US.
$250 in 2006 for hardware that cost $250 in 2001.
And some people wonder why the Wiinis has no DSS.
We know.Quote:
Originally Posted by every dog$ post
We're all a bunch of Internet cliches by now, no need to name names.
If only I had no reason to complain.Quote:
Originally Posted by every time BaconMcShig replies to a post where I rightfully bitch about Nintendo being retarded
Since you're not forced to buy anything and there are two other systems catering directly to your needs, no, you don't have a reason to bitch like a GameFAQs reject every time Nintendo is mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by dog$
Hey, it cost $200 in 2001.Quote:
Originally Posted by dog$
Bacon, he called you by your last name. OOOOOHH.
Also, day 1.
Wii sucks lol.
So give me a time frame where it's OK for me to bitch like a Gamefaqs reject about Nintendo shit, because there's plenty to bitch about.Quote:
Originally Posted by sethsez
I thought a rough occurrence of once every three months is enough but I guess not. One per year is ok?
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Originally Posted by diffusionx
250 with Wii Sports included.
I wouldn't mind the $250 price tag if Nintendo packaged in a little more tech. Here's what I'm guessing how the Wii will be launched.
The $250 Wii Bundle
*1 Wiimote (although 2 would really justify the $250 price)
*1 nunchuck attachment
*1 classic controller attachment
*Wii Sports Demo
*$5 credit for the Virtual Console - get either 5 NES games or 1 SNES game
that sounds about right.
I simply have to believe that they will include some from of Wii Sports just to show off what you can do with the console. Foot in the door. If I were Nintendo there wouldn't be any other way I could conceive of launching it.
It's 250 USD, watch.Quote:
PRESS RELEASE
Following its overwhelming debut at E3 2006, Nintendo today announced the current fiscal year unit shipment forecast for its new home game system, Wii™. Nintendo also confirmed that the price of the Wii system, which incorporates unique freehand control, will not exceed $250 in America, or ¥25,000 in Japan. The company plans to ship 6 million systems to retailers around the world between its launch in the fourth quarter of 2006 and the end of its fiscal year on March 31, 2007.
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Cowdisease
You're delusional.
I will be surprised if it has the nunchuk, let alone all the other stuff.
I definitly agree with this. The sports titles will definitely showcase the abilities of the Wii.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Why? It's pretty central to how the controller works and aside from Wii Sports we haven't seen a single game that only uses the Wiimote. The nunchuck will definitely be in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
The classic controller is a different issue. I expect that'll be sold separately with the $5 credit thing. Nintendo really wants people to buy into the virtual console because it's pretty much all profit for them and everyone else involved.
The Wii HAS to include the nunchuk. The other shit will probably be sold separately, though.
At the very least, the nunchuck attachment has to be included, since it's required to move Link around in Zelda Wii.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
The Wii has more to it than the NGC. The upgraded chips, WiFi, RAM and flash memory add a little bit onto the price. Still, $250 is a bit steep for the technology.
I still haven't seen a system selling game yet.
The money is for the controller, which probably spent ages in R&D and cost a decent chunk to develop. The core hardware isn't where the money was sunk, but that doesn't mean the thing as a whole was cheap to develop.
The Nintendo first party games, collectively, are the system seller. It'll probably take another year or two before they figure out how to make FPS games that are better than keyboard and mouse. Maybe Red Steel 2, who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by JefmcC
Id rather 200, because i think it would grab more people, and would fit more conveniently in the "whole wii+360=ps3 price" bit we keep hearing. but im guessing they will try to grab for more and try the 250, hope im wrong.
No they're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
yes they are...and livejournal or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I still think Zelda could be a pack-in. Delaying the game to the Wii launch is interesting.
I don't think it's that interesting. They didn't have any other top franchises ready for launch (wait, is Mario Galaxy?) and they wanted something to sell systems.
Metroid Prime 3 is launch.
I've read that Mario Galaxy, like Smash Bros, won't be ready until 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Really? I don't remember reading a confirmation on that. I thought that was going to be released in 2007 as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
Yeah, the controller seems to be a fairly costly component. Wireless, motion sensors, speaker, rumble, and if some reports are to be believed, a mic and force feedback... a wiimote probably costs about as much to manufacture as a GBA.
I'd like the system to be inexpensive more than anyone, I'm cheap as hell... but if Nintendo can get away with $250, still look like a bargain and sell like gangbusters, I don't see why they wouldn't. They're a business first and foremost.
Miyamoto said they're aiming for launch ideally, but if not it'll be within 6 months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
This is my guess as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
I'm guessing the 3D motion sensing controller took a fair amount of R&D to work out. 250 is the highest I'll pay for this thing if it is true. Nintendo has the luxury of pushing a little higher with its sticker price because the other guys are so [edit]HIGH. When Microsoft or Sony drops their price they'll be able to slash 50 off the top and act like its a great deal to the consumers (which it is, if those launch titles are all ready in time).Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
I'm buying one already at or near launch if it has game I want to play.
Prime 3 is confirmed for launch:
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/709/709258p1.html
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Originally Posted by RoleTroll
While this would be awesome, when was the last time Nintendo released ANYTHING on time. Ill believe it when I see it.
Um, most of the time, actually. The only recent example of a game slipping after they gave it a concrete date was New Super Mario Bros., and the difference was only a week.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameGandalf
Maybe you're thinking of when Rare was with them.
Wii Wins in Famitsu Survey
Japanese gamers are most excited about Wii software, question PS3 price.
by Anoop Gantayat
May 25, 2006 - While we're sure IGN readers have been able to gauge the reactions of the English-speaking game communities for themselves, we've found ourselves being asked the same question over and over again: what do the Japanese think? And so we turn to Famitsu, whose latest issue contains the results of an E3-related survey held at Famitsu.com.
Famitsu.com polled its readers from 5/15 to 5/18 on four key questions related to all the big E3 announcements. The site used 294 responses to come to the following figures. Responding to the question of which hardware has their greatest interest, 68.8% said Wii. PS3 grabbed 21.0%, ahead of Xbox 360's 7.2% and the DS's 3.0%. All hardware, current generation and next, was included in the survey.
A bit more directly, Famitsu asked survey takers which hardware they expect to win the next generation race. The Wii won this vote at 73.0%, with PS3 coming in second at 22.6% and Xbox 360 getting 4.4%.
Survey takers were also questioned on the PS3's price. In Japan, the base model costs 62,790 yen, a ways up from the PS2's original launch price of 37,800 yen, and sure enough, 88.4% of responders felt that this was too high. Only 10.9% felt that it was a reasonable price, while 0.7% punks said that it was too low.
While Nintendo didn't reveal the Wii's price at E3, Famitsu asked readers what they expect the system to cost. Survey takers selected the 25,000 yen price point to the tune of 53.6% of the vote. This isn't much of a surprise, as all Nintendo consoles including and following the Super Famicom, have been launched at that very price point. The next popular choice was 30,000 yen, with 35,000 and 20,000 yen coming in at third.
Finally, the survey asked readers to select the upcoming game that most interests them. Zelda Twilight Princess for the Wii took the top spot. Trailing behind it were Final Fantasy XIII (PS3), Metal Gear Solid 4 (PS3), Smash Brothers X (Wii), Dragon Quest Sword (Wii), Super Mario Galaxy (Wii), Final Fantasy III (DS), Monster Hunter 3 (PS3), Resident Evil (Wii) and Halo 3 (Xbox 360).
Nintendo's Wii hardware seems to have been the big E3 winner, at least amongst readers of Famitsu.com. Now the big question is how this will translate into sales later this year.
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/710/710131p1.html
So much for the hope that Japan will bail out the PS3. How long will PS3 developers continue to ignore the surveys, and keep spending huge money developing for a system that gamers say they won't buy because it's too expensive?
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Originally Posted by Bacon
I dont want to get into a pissing contest here, and I dont have a DS so I dont really follow that market, but the exception is when Nintendo doesnt delay and delay. Hardware and software.
However, you are right about Rare being an egregious offender.
No... Nintendo is usually on time. Noob.
This is true in the development stage perhaps, when the expected arrival date is vague and broad. Zelda TP and Metroid Hunters being examples, they've seen lots of delays but their expected arrivals were always put in terms of quarters, not specific months. Once they give an actual date, though, it's pretty well-adhered to. "It will be available at launch" is pretty concrete, they wouldn't have said it if there was any doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by GameGandalf
What's this crap? The thread title clearly says "Wii price confirmed" and I come in here to see no confirmed price. Pull this shit again and get an elbow off the top turnbuckle. You've been warned.
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Well, that's it. Console war over. Might as well turn in any and all consoles and games in while you can for cash for the Wii, while Microsoft and Sony may as well shut down production.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Geohound
Nintendo made games used to be a guaranteed 100% sure fire thing. Not any more. I didn't like Mario or Zelda on Gamecube, so the free pass is over, IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
I'd still like to try the controller before I decide. I just can't imaging it not making my arm tired after like 45 min. or so. Shit, playing House of the Dead on Dreamcast and Xbox made my arm tired.
Price wise, $200 or $250 makes no difference to me. I just need to see the killer app.
Uhh, they've been saying that the nunchuck would be bundled pretty much since they first announced the nunchuck attachment. Nice try.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
I concur with JefmcC.
Zelda Twilight Princess...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon
See above...
Miyamoto claims within 6 months of launch, which when translated from PR jazz to normal english probably means Christmas 2007.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
294, what the fuck? That's really low.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
p.s. Famitsu is toilet paper.
Im not a statistician but 294 responses may have been plenty.
people need to stop jumping the gun and putting "confirmed" in threads when it's nothing is confirmed. When nintendo issues a press release here in the US then it will be "confirmed".
This may be a case of Sony pushing the curve for technology too fast. People want to have a better console experience with each generation, but if the costs are so astronomical that it's not economically friendly as a business model what's the point? It means you ended your last console generation too fast and technology hasn't been out long enough to be a viable option.
Well, all of this will be proof once the sales figures come out. If going softer on hardware specs and harder on new gadgets like the wiimote is the answer then so be it.
I expected more from a supposedly really popular magazine like Famitsu.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
The actual number is irrelevant... most of those polls you see on TV before an election are taken with less than a thousand people. And you're talking about representing 90 million people. Any more and its redundant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Maybe the next 200 people would have all voted for PS3 though. Statistics are as weird as vagina's.
No, well designed statistics are as solid as my cock.
If it was a totally random poll, it's valid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Who cares anyway, would you trust a poll of Gamepro readers? Famitsu is bascially the same thing.
As far as I'm concerned, EDGE is the only gaming magazine worth anything.
294 responses to a question with no bias would let you estimate the opinion of millions of readers with less than 6% error.
Famitsu poll results are about as worthless at predicting Japanese interest as the mag itself is at reviewing games. Famitsu polls have indicated prior to launch that the Xbox and Xbox 360 had a chance in Japan. DoA4 and N3 were in most wanted charts quite a bit before release, and neither has managed more than 50k, iirc. Blue Dragon is constantly in the most wanted charts. Mother 3 was in the top 5 for literally years and has hardly cracked 300k.
But hey, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Wii become a monstrous success, either.
You know nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
He knows Bo.
what's so weird about vaginas?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraftwerks
He knows how to make a shitty web comic.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Weird = never seen. ZING!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kraftwerks
i was going to go there, but felt I'm not familair enough with the crowd to start attacking yet, except jeremy, even noobs can attack him.
jeremy cons grey
so Mario & his bitches don't excite you?Quote:
Originally Posted by JefmcC
Does anybody else wish Nintendo would go back to the SNES and NES days and pack in a game and two controllers? Damn that would kick ass.
Just a pack in game for $250 would be awesome. Zelda with a Wii. DO IT!
Biggest problem with pack in games is what game do you pack in? NES came with Super Mario Bros, yet I remember people bitching that they had to pay money for something they didn't want.
I do really hope that at least a demo of WiiSports and, like, Metroid are included to show off the machine.
zelda's pretty much a guarenteed sale, so i wouldn't expect them to give that away; however, as others have stated wii sports would be a fantastic pack in.
But they do that kind of stuff still. DS and Animal Crossing, recently, off my head.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog
I'd rather they just keep what's in the box to a minimum, they aren't going to just throw that stuff in for free, and not everyone's going to want it. And now "Value Packs" are more about giving the company a better value than the customer, now. Remember the PSP? Consoles lose money, and the companies make it up through games, so bundling a discounted game doesn't help them at all.
Of course, having the option at the beginning is nice, but eventually Nintendo has made bundles for every system.
I'm telling you, Nintendo is really picking up the peices this generation.
I don't really care about the Wii price. Something for me is either desirable or not and the price is secondary. I was enthusiastic about the controller until I saw it wasn't an improvement over what we have already.
The pieces, or the scraps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
No, they're just doing the same old shit but they're lucky the other two guys are doing ROFLcopter bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
Honestly, you do have a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq
...to a degree.
I can see your point, but what kind of cockfag wouldn't want SMB?Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
I think something is better than nothing, or a demo disc. I remember when Sega first started selling the Game Gear, you could send in the UPC with receipt and get a game mailed to you from a list. With all the internet registering the do nowadays, why couldn't one register their system online, then choose a game from a list?Quote:
Originally Posted by Geen
There will almost definitely be a pack in. Nintendo's gonna wanna show what makes the Wii different, they'll probably pack in Wii sports.
Wii seems like something you'd have to be convinced is good before you buy it. A pack-in would be like preachin to the choir no?Quote:
Originally Posted by kbuchanan
A pack-in gives the perception that you're getting something for your money. I buy a 360 and still have to spend money to play games. I buy a Wii and have a game to play without spending extra cash. Sort if like buying a razor and getting a free blade with it. They know you'll need to purchase more blades later anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by amitavc
I completely agree, but look how many morons blow a wad of cash for the newest version of Madden and refuse to play anything else. Personally, I think I'd enjoy anything Nintendo planned to throw in there because, if it's one of the first party games they showed at E3 then I'm probably going to buy it sooner or later anyways since it all looked interesting to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by kedawa
I really do hope Wii Sports is a pack in, or at least no more than 39.99.
Is it confirmed to be just one game?
I know we don't care about Japan around here, but Nintendo does, because they're currently making like a bajillion yen a month off of the DS over there. What they're getting in that country sure as hell isn't the scraps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Geohound
DS is doing pretty good in the West as well (just not utterly slaughtering like in Japan.) If the Wii can do the same, they'll have no problem making quite a bit of money... which, hmm, they're already doing now. So, I guess, quite a bit MORE money.
Getting out of the graphics race, targeting people who don't typically play games or had given them up, and generally trying some new stuff when it comes to game interaction and gameplay is the "same old shit?"Quote:
Originally Posted by omfgninjas in iraq
I think a pack-in is a good idea because it's a little less threatening to non-gamers, who buy a system and then have to choose what game to go along with it. You wise people would have your game selections all mapped out, but that's not their kind of thinking. A pack-in of some open game like Wii sports would go a long way for Nintendo to do exactly what they intend to do with this system.
But it will have games, that have mario and link in them. That is the 1980s all over again. CAN'T YOU SEE!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Sold!Quote:
Originally Posted by IronPlant
This is basically a de facto definition of the DS, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
I don't really consider targetting a different audience "innovation", either (especially considering that outside of Brain Age, nothing they're doing is really anything the industry hasn't seen; it's just that it's Nintendo making the pet sim, or the simple tennis game, or whatever now).
But on the other hand, the reason I love Nintendo has never been because of innovation (outside of maybe Mario 64, and the Wii and DS's hardware). The reason I love Nintendo, and the reason I'm so psyched for the Wii and DS, is simply because they're making really good, fun games for them.
Is that a bad thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by dog$
Perhaps fun games coming out is the innovation. :-PQuote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Nintendo really has done a lot of cool shit with the DS, though, that just wouldn't be possible with the stylus. Kirby Cursed Canvas, for example. Fun game, can't be done else where. Yoshi Touch N Go, same. Meteos (I know it's not directly Nintendo), plays like ass without a stylus. And even outside of realm of new controller schemes, Nintendo is also breaking new ground with some people with the way their online network is set up (I may bitch and complain that I wish it had cross-game buddy lists and more Xbox Live type features, but I still find myself playing Tetris and Mario Kart online more than I have ever played any Xbox Live game. I chuck this up to their matching system and the ease of use).