The karma police bit me in the ass. I waited 45 mins in the rain for a bus to get home.
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The karma police bit me in the ass. I waited 45 mins in the rain for a bus to get home.
THE SEAL THEY CATCH WAS ALREADY DEAD!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
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are you serious, or being clever?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
example please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
I hope you are talking from experience. Every class that Ive had that was curved was balls hard and everyone thought they were failing until the very end when they fgot Bs, and yet made 56s on all of the test.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
EDIT: After reading through the entire thread, I have to say Rich is a tad dumb. Curving grades never hurt anyone. When a teacher says they curve, it usely means they round all the grades up.
Personally I don't like it when teachers curve, becuase in the few classes I've had it, it was used as an excuse by the teacher to make stupidly hard test, H.W. and class material and still pass enough people by the end of the year to keep their job.
I fucking understand what a curve is; but a bell curve isn't a normal fucking curve.
The distribution of the bell curve can bring people down in some situations...what is so difficult to understand? Say, as is generally accepted, a B is an 80%+. If a class average is 88%, then what should be a class average of B/B+ is now a class average of a C.
Well excuse me. I thought you were talking about the curve in regards to your class, not a hypothetical discussion of the concept of the bell curve itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rich
Yes, many educated people laugh at the bell curve. It has been used to justify racism and makes unfounded assumptions about humans. One being that a small group will do well, a small group will suck, and a majority will do so-so. And yes, that IS an assumption. There are things that the majority of people can do well. Like pick their nose, or wipe their ass.
But there really isn't any reason for you to be getting your panty's in a twist. No one here is talking about a real bell curve. They are talking about rounding a bunch of shitty grades up so more people pass. You will never see a teacher lower grades in a curve.
EDIT: I guess you could say that some people are better than others at wiping their ass, but I feel that would end up being pretty subjective.
Yes it is.Quote:
I fucking understand what a curve is; but a bell curve isn't a normal fucking curve.
Unless the teacher is a total moron they will not use a curve in a situation like that.Quote:
The distribution of the bell curve can bring people down in some situations...what is so difficult to understand? Say, as is generally accepted, a B is an 80%+. If a class average is 88%, then what should be a class average of B/B+ is now a class average of a C.
question, was there a bell curve, before the book Bell Curve?
because if there wasn't, I really have to wonder why some of you think it is so wonderful. It has some pretty nasty stuff in it like
1) intelligence exists and is accurately measureable across racial, language, and national boundaries,
2) intelligence is one of -- if not the most -- important correlative factor in economic, social, and overall success in America, and is becoming more important,
3) intelligence is largely (40% to 80%) genetically heritable,
4) there are racial and ethnic differences in IQ that cannot be sufficiently explained by environmental factors such as nutrition, social policy, or racism,
5) nobody has so far been able to manipulate IQ long term to any significant degree through changes in environmental factors, and in light of their failure such approaches are becoming less promising, and finally,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
"The distribution of the bell curve can bring people down in some situations...what is so difficult to understand? Say, as is generally accepted, a B is an 80%+. If a class average is 88%, then what should be a class average of B/B+ is now a class average of a C."
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Give me an example of a class you took where people that got 88% on a test got Cs. BTW, I took a test once where a 40% was like a 3.6...lucky for me, I looked at the whole test to find the easiest question at the end and got half of my points from it.
A "bell curve" is just a normal distribution. It can be found in a gazillion different places in the universe. It was discovered hundreds of years ago.
This discussion is getting really, really dumb.
Your mother is getting really really dumb, King Asshole.
O'rly?Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
http://members.aol.com/jeff570/b.htmlQuote:
THE bell curve, with its implication that there is only one bell-shaped curve, does not come naturally to statisticians or probabilists and I could find no use of this term in any of the statistics or mathematics journals on JSTOR. However the term has become very common outside the professional literature of probability.
Bell curve is found in 1938 in Public Personnel Problems from the Standpoint of the Operating Officer by Lewis Meriam: "Within recent years a tendency has developed to require that the distribution of efficiency ratings shall conform to the normal frequency or bell curve of distribution." [Fred R. Shapiro]
A JSTOR search found, "we had fewer C’s than the normal bell curve indicates and more B’s" in W. E. Aiken & P. D. Carleton "Freshman English at the University of Vermont," College English, 3, (1941), p. 281. The phrase "an almost perfect Bell Curve" appears in D. T. Sisto "Aural Comprehension in Spanish," Modern Language Journal, 41 (1957), p. 30. The bell curve became more common in the following decades but it really took off in the 90s with such widely discussed works as Richard J. Herrnstein’s The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life (1994).