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Dudes GONNA FEEL THE STRING!
DUH!
*fail*
I agree with the usage of this product.
What if she put it in backwards?
That concept picture isn't exactly the device in question.Quote:
Originally Posted by he who shall never be named
"...The device, which Sonette Ehlers, its inventor, has patented, is worn like a tampon but is hollow. In the event of a rape, she said that it would fold around the rapist�s penis and attach itself with microscopic hooks. It is impossible to remove the clamped device without medical intervention."
Well now you can expect that rape to become rape/murder.
Or is this supposed to act as a deterrent?
"I was all about raping that bitch until I saw the commerical advertising the razor tampon. Now I'm gonna think twice before forcing myself on a woman. I could get HURT!"
Yeah, I thought the same thing. Some guy gets his piece stuck in that thing, he's probably not going to be all, "Well, shucks, guess I learned my lesson. Good day to you, ma'am."
I think if you were going to go out of your way to rape someone, you would take the time to pull the string.
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Originally Posted by FuryFox
........ ow.
Now we wait for some woman to use it as a precaution, then get drunk and go home with some guy she actually does want to screw while forgetting about it.
And, as usual, the responses to the article are awesome.Yes, of course. How silly of us to have not tried suggesting to rapists that they perhaps not. After all, that's worked so well with murderers and robbers that we have virtually no crime left except rape.Quote:
obviously i'm all for women defending themselves, but putting the responsibility on women not to get raped is ridiculous. have we completely given up the idea that men can stop raping women?
Been reading Snowcrash? Because it featured a similar 'device' and that's exactly what happened. Instead of little hooks though, it gave a big dose of tranqulizer. So again fiction is more practical than reality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Makes it easier for the woman to escape I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by FuryFox
Not going to be so easy for the guy to chase with that thing attatched to him.
Some woman is going to use it, forget it, do it, and get beaten to death.
What the fuck were you doing on feministing.com?
Also, I hope every woman that buys one of these ends up stabbing herself and bleeding to death.
Yes, but it's been years so I've forgotten a lot of details.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammadeau
I always wanted that motorcycle. And nobody argues with Reason.
I see a dramatic rise of anal rape in africa.
Rapists 1
Aids 1
Women -50,000 (reported) yearly
haha.
I remember reading that something like 1 in 5 South African women have been raped. Also a lot of South Africans believe that if you rape a virgin it will cure you of AIDs, so there's a big problem with children getting raped by men with HIV.
No see thats all they're used to, so they're probably pretty happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Well obviously that myth hasn't worked out very well for them. How do you even justify this?
African: Well fuck I have AIDS, time to go rape a virgin to cure myself. I have no regard for the woman's well being nor do I care enough to seek proper treatment because MAGICAL VIRGINS WILL CURE ME AIDS.
I was wondering if I was the only one who thought of that immediately. I mean, rape is about control, right? Nothing says control more than viciously ramming someone up the ass without the aid of lubricant, am I right?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
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Yes.
I see a rise in Serial Killers in America period. All this will do is give the rapist a good laugh as he pulls it out, or enrage them to do something worse before or after they rape the male/female.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by napalm
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Originally Posted by MarsKitten
you know that tampon can be stuck up in both ways.
DOUBLE THE PROTECTION!
Besides if it fails they can always take it out & use it as a shank.
That's the whole issue with aids in Africa; they don't have the hospitals that could even begin to treat things like that I don't think.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
That, along with the lack of education about the magical properties of virgins, makes it a disaster
I wouldn't stick one of those up your pooper.Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFer
Oh thats right, no one in the past 450 years has taken the time to explain germ theory or viruses. Yet Africa is becoming the new "center" of Christianity. You'd think between missionary preaching they'd insert a message like "Don't Rape Children to Cure Aids IT DOESN'T WORK!"
Stop being such a foolish limousine liberal asswipe. Imagine you go back in time to 1200 and try to convince the people of germ theory or viruses. Do you think they'll believe you?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
Most of the people we are talking about in Africa are poor, illiterate, rural farmers that grow what they eat and have lived in the same village for generations. Rather than relying on a corrupt, lying central government (because all they've been good for in the past is stealing their money and killing their family in guerrilla wars) or foreigners they take their matters to tribal chiefs and councils to settle disputes. There is no rule of law and no concept of property deeds or anything like that. Unlike emerging markets like India there is little foreign investment and foreign jobs except for oil rigs which have devastated the environment because of shoddy protections.
Obviously my description is simplified to a large degree but hopefully you get the idea.
Since when were all the Africans Christians, and you think that missionaries have reached all of Africa?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
Like Diffx says, they have no-one but themselves to get information from, and this means that they take what information they can get hold of and use it. Kind of like religion; there's no proof for it, but you follow it blindly.
It's awful and it's wrong, but they just don't know any better.
Taking this point of view Africa's main priority is education.
It's amazing how well germ theory applies to TNL.
The Middle East and South East Asia has similiar problems, corrupt governments, idiotic tribal structure, rampant misconceptions about AIDS, and monotheistic religion, yet somehow they don't subscribe to a "cure" that infects others in the most horriable and traumatic way possible with a disease that will outcast the victim for life in that society.Quote:
Originally Posted by diffusionx
Maybe I just really hate Africans. :bang:
I don't
Wrong. I saw a news article on bbc a few weeks back about how in India there was a town where people were told that to get rid of evil spirits mutilating children was the way to go about it. It's not aids, but it's awful in a totally different way. Sure that's just a small example, but that such things are not unique.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
And comparing Africa to the Middle East, etc, is not the same. Africa is about the most corrupt, poverty-strucken broken place on the planet. They're bound to be worse off.
In case you didn't realize it yet, the Middle East has cultural "quirks" of their own, stemming from similar antiquated notions of the world.Quote:
The Middle East and South East Asia has similiar problems, corrupt governments, idiotic tribal structure, rampant misconceptions about AIDS, and monotheistic religion, yet somehow they don't subscribe to a "cure" that infects others in the most horriable and traumatic way possible with a disease that will outcast the victim for life in that society.
Of course there isn't a 1-to-1 relationship to these things, the cultures are quite different.
Like burky said the problem is education. And its not enough just to say this or that, they wont believe you, for all the reasons I outlined above, the challenge is piercing that thick cloud of ignorance. It's happened in every society in the history of time.
And there's nothing "idiotic" about tribal structure, especially when the governments in place are the ones you see in Africa and the ME. You really are ignorant and stuck-up.
The bigger problem is the tribal mentality of these regions. Education and its avaliablity mean nothing if the chief says they're western lies. Speaking as an Arab, I see this alot even my own family, if the matriarch or patriach of a clan or tribe forbids or accepts something, it makes a huge difference. IE: The elders in my family have a huge Israel bias, so siding with Thomas Friedman's latest editorial, pro-Israel or not would get me a few cold stares.
Granted its alot more intense in the Middle East than that.
Yet no one talks about the Arab Slave trade..... EVER. It might acount for alot of raps, and spreading of AIDS.
Why do these discussions on this forum always lead to Africa, and Aids anyway?
In their defense, most Africans have little reason to trust Westerners. After hundreds of years of brutal colonialism, followed by overnight independence leaving the majority of these countries to resort to settling long-standing tribal (see Rwanda) or regional (Uganda, Nigeria, Congo, etc.) bloodfueds that descend the areas into total anarchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
So, they ask the West to send help, and what do they get? Very little, nothing most of the time. The majority of Western governments have all but completely washed their hands of their African legacy (including the US).
Combine all this and you have a deep resentment and distrust of the West.
As for education meaning nothing in the face of tribal authority, well that's pretty much bunk. The people want an education because they know that it equals a job and food. The problem is, obviously, that it isn't available or it's available in very restricted amounts.
Its not so simple as the big bad west abandoning them poor black fellas. I think the last time America sent humanitarian aid to an African nation was Somalia, which turned out very bad. To be able to educate the people, you'd have to stabilise the countries they live in, and the armies and guerrilla bandits on both sides are fucking ruthless. For example, in Sierra Leone, the rebel army cut the limbs off children and babies to intimidate and deter other countries from sending in aid.
Because its an epidemic of monstrous proportions and we have no idea how to fix it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DistantRelative
I contend that the west has the means to "fix" Africa, just not the political will or reason to do it. Mostly because it would take a very long time, with consistant effort and absolutely no immediate payoff.
No, nobody can "fix" anybody else. Africa is already 100% dependent on the meager aid we give them, groveling for scraps instead of building a stable economy, a solid infrastructure, or a strong legal system. It must be up to them to provide the impetus for change. Of course there are ways to help those that help themselves (to use a tired phrase) but the idea that the West's infinite supplies of cash and caring progressives can reshape the continent is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarsKitten
I think a big obstacle when approaching this issue is that westerners insist on referring to this as 'Africa's' problem. And that's fucking stupid- Africa is a large continent, with many different countries, cultures, and ethnic backgrounds. Africa's problems vary greatly from Rwonda to South Africa to Ghana, etc -the only things these places have in common are they are on the same continent and some black people who often like soccer live there. Everything else, from religion to industrial level, is wide open.
People need to get over this tendency to act like Africa is some unified land where negroes live in tents and hunt elephants with spears.
The reality is a lot of African countries are first-world, a lot more are third-world, a whole shitload of Africans are white, Indian, and Arab, and more Africans than not have never even seen an elephant or lived in the bush somewhere.
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Originally Posted by FirstBlood
Maybe it will be a rape/murder (taking in account that many rape victims actually commit suicide later on, that rapist won´t do it again. AND if he is still phisically capable of doing so, he will think it twice before doing it...
I totally agree.
Did you really sign up here to bump a two year old thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayana
You know sooner or later we're gonna hear about a man-hating psycho-bitch luring some poor sap into bed with one of these abominations in her on purpose.
And if you remember during the book, she forgets it's in and it spears the dick of some guy she casual fucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by AaronChance
I wonder if he remembers saying that two years ago
Yeah, that's exactly what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen