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18 Jun 2007, 11:44 AM
Josh

This format war is silly.

My picture should be in the dictionary next to "Early Adopter" but I'm still waiting.

Suckers...
18 Jun 2007, 01:45 PM
Port

Blockbuster is falling apart. Who they choose is irrelevant.
18 Jun 2007, 02:34 PM
Doc Holliday

I refuse to buy blue-ray or HD-DVD. They've already been out a year, and neither are the clear winner. And in 5 years… I guarantee that that the norm will be to purchase HD videos and extras straight off the net, via iTube and MSinema.

…and what about Shaft?!?

http://www.cinema.com/image_lib/3650_shaft.jpg
18 Jun 2007, 02:48 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Type Ryan

Wait until manufacturers include both HD DVD and Blu-Ray formats in their players. Chance are that this will happen and if you're going to spend the money, you might as well get the best bang for your buck.

It already has happened LG Has a combo player out there, it sucks though because its $200 more than if you bought a HD-DVD player and a Blu Ray player.
18 Jun 2007, 02:51 PM
Timber

Who cares if Blockbuster doesn't have them in stores as long as they keep getting them online. If you rent from them somewhat regularly and don't use the online program you're retarded anyways.
18 Jun 2007, 02:52 PM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by portnoyd

Blockbuster is falling apart. Who they choose is irrelevant.

They are falling apart, but a lot of uninformed consumers will see the news or the discs in Blockbuster and think that is quite meaningful.
18 Jun 2007, 02:55 PM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeno G

Who cares if Blockbuster doesn't have them in stores as long as they keep getting them online. If you rent from them somewhat regularly and don't use the online program you're retarded anyways.

exactly. they still have hd-dvd online and thats where most of their business is coming from anymore anyway. this is hardly a "nail in the coffin".
18 Jun 2007, 03:10 PM
Wildkat

While I hate everything that is Sony, the HD-DVD camp should just call it a day at this point.
18 Jun 2007, 03:15 PM
mollipen

Mark down Target as another company supposedly announcing soon that they'll be Blu-ray only.
18 Jun 2007, 05:29 PM
ElCapichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by shidoshi

Mark down Target as another company supposedly announcing soon that they'll be Blu-ray only.

Target's in store selection is shit, although their prices online are unbeatable. Looking at upcoming releases, it's pretty much over for HD DVD. BluRay already has so many exclusives coming out, not to mention that most shared releases end up being more expensive on HD DVD due to the lame combo discs. I won't state this as official, as the only place I have seen this is on Target's site, but they have several early HD DVD exclusives, such as V for Vendeta, as coming out on BluRay later on. Again, I haven't heard anything official on it, so don't hold me to it.
18 Jun 2007, 08:01 PM
Rem

HDDVD clearly has fallen on it's face at this point, and I can't really figure out why. Is there a reason bluray won so quickly?
18 Jun 2007, 08:23 PM
mollipen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rem

HDDVD clearly has fallen on it's face at this point, and I can't really figure out why. Is there a reason bluray won so quickly?

Having all but one major studio onboard making movies for it?
18 Jun 2007, 08:45 PM
Razor Ramon

That's not it.
18 Jun 2007, 08:58 PM
Yoshi

HD-DVD never had legs anywhere but in the US. That certainly can't help.
18 Jun 2007, 10:37 PM
Chux

I really need to sell off my player + discs.
19 Jun 2007, 11:49 AM
EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

HD-DVD never had legs anywhere but in the US. That certainly can't help.

Quoted for truth...
19 Jun 2007, 12:57 PM
Port

Glad I passed on the 360 HD-DVD drive. Not like I'm going to buy any BR movies anyway.
19 Jun 2007, 06:24 PM
ElCapichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chux

I really need to sell off my player + discs.

I plan on holding onto all of mine. I generally buy movies for my own viewing pleasure, and most of my friends come over to my place to watch my movies anyways. I will, however, great decrease my HD DVD purchases to a bear minimum of HD DVD exclusives. With movies such as 300 and The shooter as well as several others coming out on both formats, but being the more expensive combo discs for HD DVD, I will be going with BluRay for them.
19 Jun 2007, 07:17 PM
YellerDog

DVD still does fine by me. <3 DVD.

You guys sort this out and report back in a year.

(Though Blade Runner Extended Cut is probably going to come out on one of these fucking things and make me jump in.)
19 Jun 2007, 07:27 PM
Chux

Quote:

Originally Posted by YellerDog

DVD still does fine by me. <3 DVD.

You guys sort this out and report back in a year.

(Though Blade Runner Extended Cut is probably going to come out on one of these fucking things and make me jump in.)

HD, October.
19 Jun 2007, 10:30 PM
EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gizmodo

Blockbuster's decision to support Blu-ray in all of its 1,450 stores is having a bigger impact than it seems. A tipster at an unnamed retailer tells us they've had more HD DVD player orders canceled over the last few days than they've seen over the entire life cycle. The kicker? All of them were canceled because of the Blockbuster announcement. Not only that, new sales of HD DVD players are nonexistent, with Blu-ray being the only things moving now.
The more tech savvy of us rent our stuff on Netflix or Blockbuster Online (which is still supporting both formats for now), but this announcement—covered in many mainstream media sources—had a big impact on people who actually rent at Blockbuster.

Ouch...
19 Jun 2007, 10:33 PM
sphere79

Seriously, who STILL goes to Blockbuster?
20 Jun 2007, 02:13 AM
Cheebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rem

HDDVD clearly has fallen on it's face at this point, and I can't really figure out why. Is there a reason bluray won so quickly?

Won?

That's like saying that the kid who got picked second to last in gym class "won" over the last kid.

I'd say that bluray has mearly less-clearly fallen on it's face where HDDVD clearly fell on it's face.
20 Jun 2007, 02:44 AM
ElCapichan

The way I see it is that while HD DVD is supposed to be the cheaper format, dula releases where the the HD DVD version is a combo disc, or even HD DVD excluive combo discs, end up being just as expensive, if not more, than most BluRay movies. If it wasn't for the damn combo disc, I would be buying more movies on HD DVD than BR. With the way things look, I will now be buying more BR movies than HD DVD movies.
20 Jun 2007, 03:42 AM
Andy

Blu-Ray movies are awesome. I <3 Blue Rays.
20 Jun 2007, 03:49 AM
ElCapichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andy

Blu-Ray movies are awesome. I <3 Blue Rays.

Anything done in HD right is awsome. It's just sad that both formats have their fair share of movies that look like ass.
20 Jun 2007, 10:48 AM
Wildkat

Exactly. Having to pay $500+ for a player, plus $30-50 dollars for a half assed rushed transfer, doesnt exactly make me interested in either format.
20 Jun 2007, 10:54 AM
ElCapichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildkat

Exactly. Having to pay $500+ for a player, plus $30-50 dollars for a half assed rushed transfer, doesnt exactly make me interested in either format.

The problem isn't with the formats though, but with the studio. Whether it is DVD, HD DVD, BR, or by download, there are still going to be studios that release rushed or sloppy HD transfers for the sake of saving a dime. Most HD movies that are coming out now look great. he Departed, Flags of Our Fathers, Letters From Iwajima, Click, and Planet Eath all look amazing, and are well worth picking up in HD to me.
20 Jun 2007, 10:56 AM
kingoffighters

x264 FTW. :D
20 Jun 2007, 11:23 AM
Wildkat

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCapitan

The problem isn't with the formats though, but with the studio. Whether it is DVD, HD DVD, BR, or by download, there are still going to be studios that release rushed or sloppy HD transfers for the sake of saving a dime. Most HD movies that are coming out now look great. he Departed, Flags of Our Fathers, Letters From Iwajima, Click, and Planet Eath all look amazing, and are well worth picking up in HD to me.

Oh, I have planet earth. :D 2 episodes in WMVHD or .264 HD Fit fine on a Dual-Layer DVD-R and playback quite nicely on my 360.

I understand that its really the studios fault for the crappy transfers, and I think its extremely cool that Sony is going to let people trade in the shitty version for a new improved version of the Fifth Element, but companies really need to bring their A game to an emerging format, not rushed crap.
20 Jun 2007, 03:48 PM
Josh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chux

I really need to sell off my player + discs.

Make the price attractive and you and I may talk.
20 Jun 2007, 04:03 PM
mollipen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheebs

Won?

That's like saying that the kid who got picked second to last in gym class "won" over the last kid.

I'd say that bluray has mearly less-clearly fallen on it's face where HDDVD clearly fell on it's face.

Do you realize at all how long it took for DVD players to take off, and that was considering how big of a leap they were over VHS, versus the "marginal" leap Blu-ray and HD-DVD have over DVD. They aren't "falling on their faces," unless you are directly comparing one format to the other.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoffighters

x264 FTW. :D

Yes... homebrew offshoots of official codecs that help segment the world of online video even more than it already is FTW.
20 Jun 2007, 05:37 PM
Wildkat

Quote:

Originally Posted by shidoshi

Yes... homebrew offshoots of official codecs that help segment the world of online video even more than it already is FTW.

Blame apple. If they supported 5.1 dolby without any trickery in thier quicktime container, there would be no need for anything else.
20 Jun 2007, 05:39 PM
mollipen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildkat

Blame apple. If they supported 5.1 dolby without any trickery in thier quicktime container, there would be no need for anything else.

UHM... what? .mp4 may be an offshoot container of QuickTime, but at the end of the day, shouldn't the blame lay with the MPEG group if there is a problem with 5.1 in containers?

Also... you aren't honestly trying to convince me that x264 exists simply because the people using it want Dolby 5.1, are you? A bunch of kids at home encoding their DVD rips are really fretting over not having 5.1 support in a .mp4 container?

Edit: And wait a minute, what am I thinking, we're talking about the x264 codec here, and you're bringing up container issues. That's not an apples to apples comparison. x264 has nothing to do with how the audio in a container is encoded.
20 Jun 2007, 05:47 PM
Wildkat

x264 can produce 100% .mp4 compliant video. the only reason for any incompatibilites would be the container used.

.mkv is the choice of most video pirates, since its the only one that natively supports 5.1
20 Jun 2007, 05:58 PM
mollipen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildkat

x264 can produce 100% .mp4 compliant video. the only reason for any incompatibilites would be the container used.

Are we sure that it also doesn't have features or encoding options that aren't 100% h.264 compliant? My argument wasn't about being totally compliant to the .mp4 container standard... my argument was having a new codec that would compete with h.264 and cause hardware/software to have to support both the official flavor of h.264, and this homebrew offshoot. If x264 exists specifically for free and optimized encoding of h.264, then great, I've got no problem with it. If x264 then does things to be "better," that's where my problem is.

Quote:

.mkv is the choice of most video pirates, since its the only one that natively supports 5.1

And that has nothing to do with my original comment, nor your original reply.
20 Jun 2007, 06:08 PM
Wildkat

Quote:

Originally Posted by shidoshi

If x264 exists specifically for free and optimized encoding of h.264, then great, I've got no problem with it. If x264 then does things to be "better," that's where my problem is.

Well it does exist to do things better, but its stuff that should have been there from the begining.

Quote:

And that has nothing to do with my original comment, nor your original reply.

Yes it does. .mkv is just another container for .264 video, and generaly the one that causes the problems with "official" 264 hardware/ programs.
20 Jun 2007, 07:16 PM
Shin Johnpv

.mkv is a beautiful container and plays perfectly on my HTPC.
20 Jun 2007, 10:55 PM
Tommy Tallarico

Quote:

Originally Posted by shidoshi

Do you realize at all how long it took for DVD players to take off, and that was considering how big of a leap they were over VHS, versus the "marginal" leap Blu-ray and HD-DVD have over DVD. They aren't "falling on their faces," unless you are directly comparing one format to the other.

Cheebs hates all new technology because he hates himself.
20 Jun 2007, 10:56 PM
Chux

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh

Make the price attractive and you and I may talk.

I'll talk to you about this.
22 Jun 2007, 05:15 PM
kingoffighters

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

.mkv is a beautiful container and plays perfectly on my HTPC.

:tu: :sneak:
22 Jun 2007, 11:17 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingoffighters

:tu: :sneak:

seriously, it's amazing what the right codec and an awesome container can do. My htpc is nothing to write home about cause it was made with some spare parts just to try things out (a semperon 3100+ Radeon 9600 128meg card, 512megs ram, some diamond multimedia sound card so I could have coax audio out) and with coreavc and mkv files I get beautiful 720p HD with 5.1 and 6.1 surround sound. Glory to who ever cracked the encryption codes on Blu-Ray and HD-DVD.
23 Jun 2007, 11:42 AM
EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZDNet

Blu-ray won
The sturm und drang over the Blu-ray vs HD DVD battle has come to naught. After a bit of jostling Blu-ray has taken an unassailable lead over HD DVD. Blockbuster’s Matthew Smith, SVP of merchandising, says “The consumers are sending us a message. I can’t ignore what I’m seeing.” This is what he’s seen:

Blockbuster has been renting both Blu-ray and HD DVD titles in 250 stores since late last year and found that consumers were choosing Blu-ray titles more than 70 percent of the time.

Ghost of Betamax laid to rest
Sony has played this game well. They own a movie studio, and got all but one of the major studios to release on Blu-ray. They put a Blu-ray player in every PS3. And they benefit by the rapid growth of HDTV sales.

Despite the disappointing sales of the PS3, the fact that it includes a Blu-ray player also tilted the playing field. A leading indicator: Toshiba recently reduced its US sales goal for HD DVD players by 40%. The rapid uptake of HDTV in the US completes the content-player-display triumvirate.

It is safe to buy that Blu-ray disk player now
The biggest loser in this is Toshiba. They’ve put a lot of time and money behind HD DVD. Microsoft is also a loser, partly as a supporter and partly because their add-on Xbox HD DVD player sales will tank. The folks who bought one can’t be feeling too good about Microsoft’s judgement.

Intel, another backer, loses too, but they seem to have had the least skin in the game. They probably just went along because of Microsoft.

The Storage Bits take
It is all over but the shouting. Expect to see some closeout sales on HD DVD players and burners, but I wouldn’t buy one. Now that the market has shifted you can expect to see Blu-ray burner prices drop faster. I expect that Apple will be adding on on their next gen Mac Pro, and after that, the MacBook Pro.

In time this may also boost Firewire, which is substantially faster than USB. In fact, USB 2.0 probably can’t handle 18x DVD writers at full speed, and 20x DVD writers are starting to make it to market. Once Blu-ray writers get up to 6x speed, Firewire will be the way to go.

The biggest winners though, are us, the consumers. 50 GB optical storage is good for all digital junkies. Now that we don’t have to worry about the format war, we can get back to rip, mix, burn!

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=149

Oh snap!
24 Jun 2007, 02:19 AM
Shine

Anyone who quotes a fucking blog as a source automatically loses.
24 Jun 2007, 04:49 PM
Cheebs

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShineAqua

Anyone who quotes a fucking blog as a source automatically loses.

Scientists have found that lightning makes hamsters evil!

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...7-8ce3184d685d
25 Jun 2007, 10:56 AM
Port

What ZDNet man forgets to mention is that the general consumer doesn't give a shit and resents BluHD DVDs.
27 Jun 2007, 10:46 AM
Josh

The general consumer is a whiny little faggot and needs to get over that shit.
27 Jun 2007, 01:26 PM
Compass

For real. What we really need is to hear more from people who just steal everything.
28 Jun 2007, 12:24 AM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by EMAGDNIM

http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/?p=149

Oh snap!

The completely unbaised judgment of someone who only owns a blu-ray player.
20 Aug 2007, 04:19 PM
Schlep

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viacom

Paramount and DreamWorks Animation Each Declare Exclusive Support for HD DVD

LOS ANGELES, Aug. 20 -- Paramount Pictures, a unit of Viacom Inc. (NYSE: VIA and VIA.B) and DreamWorks Animation SKG (NYSE: DWA), each announced today that they will exclusively support the next-generation HD DVD format on a worldwide basis. The exclusive HD DVD commitment will include all movies distributed by Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks Pictures, Paramount Vantage, Nickelodeon Movies and MTV Films, as well as movies from DreamWorks Animation, which are distributed exclusively by Paramount Home Entertainment.

http://www.viacom.com/NEWS/NewsText.aspx?RID=1042073
20 Aug 2007, 04:22 PM
Thief Silver

Sweet, more of a split down the line!
20 Aug 2007, 04:29 PM
Chux

So.. no Shrek, Nickelodeon or MTV films on my BRD.

I don't see what the problem is.
20 Aug 2007, 04:33 PM
Rumpy

Transformers is the big get for them.
20 Aug 2007, 04:36 PM
Advocate

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chux

So.. no Shrek, Nickelodeon or MTV films on my BRD.

I don't see what the problem is.

No Transformers: The Movie, Hot Rod, Iron Man: The movie(2008), Cloverfield, Indiana Jones 4, and Star Trek (The JJ Abrams) on BRD.

That's the problem.
20 Aug 2007, 04:37 PM
Chux

Jesus Fuck.

I wanted TF on brd :(
20 Aug 2007, 04:39 PM
Razor Ramon

This is retarded. I'm glad normal DVDs still get supported by all movie studios.
20 Aug 2007, 04:42 PM
cka

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advocate

No Transformers: The Movie, Hot Rod, Iron Man: The movie(2008), Cloverfield, Indiana Jones 4, and Star Trek (The JJ Abrams) on BRD.

That's the problem.

who cares they're all comin on x264 anyway
20 Aug 2007, 04:44 PM
kingoffighters

Quote:

Originally Posted by cka

who cares they're all comin on x264 anyway

Word.
20 Aug 2007, 04:45 PM
epmode

Fuck this format war.
20 Aug 2007, 04:55 PM
Dyne

i actually looked in a Best Buy ad this weekend. i can't believe they try to charge $35 for one fucking movie.
20 Aug 2007, 04:57 PM
George

Those prices are typically for the incredibly gay dual format discs, which house the HD and regular DVD editions on one disc. Most HD-DVD's can be found around the 25 dollar mark, which in turn are 20 dollars on Amazon.
20 Aug 2007, 05:11 PM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrialSword

Those prices are typically for the incredibly gay dual format discs, which house the HD and regular DVD editions on one disc. Most HD-DVD's can be found around the 25 dollar mark, which in turn are 20 dollars on Amazon.

the feeling inside me says movies should never be more than $15. and even that is pushing it. $10 and we have a deal.
20 Aug 2007, 05:27 PM
Wildkat

Quote:

Originally Posted by cka

who cares they're all comin on x264 anyway

Or WMV-HD for us 360 owners.
20 Aug 2007, 06:03 PM
Brand X

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildkat

Or WMV-HD for us 360 owners.

Transcode 360 says x264!
20 Aug 2007, 06:09 PM
Wildkat

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brand X

Transcode 360 says x264!

My PC doesnt have the horsepower to transcode HD on the fly. Plus if its in WMV-HD you can FF and REW, and you can burn it to a DVD-DL and play it right on the console.
20 Aug 2007, 06:15 PM
Nomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon

This is retarded. I'm glad normal DVDs still get supported by all movie studios.

I agree. I'm not moving to HD anytime soon, since I don't have nor want an HDTV (no HD cable at school, and fuck the costs) so I'm perfectly happy with my old, boring DVDs. Format wars are lame.
20 Aug 2007, 06:49 PM
B-Ri

bold move on their part, only fuels more fire in this war, they should have just gone neutral and let the consumers decide, but hey, instead of buying the cg 2 hour ad called transformers, I'll just go grab pixar flicks on bluray
20 Aug 2007, 06:58 PM
Brand X

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildkat

My PC doesnt have the horsepower to transcode HD on the fly. Plus if its in WMV-HD you can FF and REW, and you can burn it to a DVD-DL and play it right on the console.

Yeah, transcoding does suck in that manner. You can FF and REW, but very slowly. I just use it for the convenience factor when I don't want to use my zboz regs.
20 Aug 2007, 07:05 PM
magnifiedplaid

I noticed somebody said this means that there will be no Indy 4 on Blu-Ray...but isn't the ENTIRE Indy Triology Paramount? Or at least the first movie is...doesn't the Paramount Mountain Logo fade into a real mountain at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or were the rights to the original triology sold to a different studio?
20 Aug 2007, 07:17 PM
Compass

I watched Dark Water on Blu-ray the other night. Not only did it force me through about two minutes of previews -- one for the very movie I was about to try to watch fresh (thanks), but it also forced me through the "Would you steal a car? blah blah blah" anti-piracy spiel, for a grand total of at least three solid minutes.

I was suitably outraged. Livid in fact. I'm an honest person, but if I could have pirated the movie right then as revenge, I would have in a hearbeat.
20 Aug 2007, 07:20 PM
Chux

The chapter skip works on those.
20 Aug 2007, 07:21 PM
Compass

Ugh, really? I was using the PS3, and just hitting the Top Menu button, which usually takes you to the main menu. I didn't try Chapter Skip. Okay, maybe unjustified rage then.
20 Aug 2007, 07:25 PM
MechDeus

lol

I own both players so I don't care what comes out on what, as long as it looks good. In three years or whenever the new consoles come out and the players switch it'll matter to me, but we'll also have cheap multi-platform players by then. So yeah, I'm good.
20 Aug 2007, 08:50 PM
Ryan

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Ri

but hey, instead of buying the cg 2 hour ad called transformers, I'll just go grab pixar flicks on bluray

Yep, fuck shrek.
20 Aug 2007, 09:02 PM
Timber

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyne

i actually looked in a Best Buy ad this weekend. i can't believe they try to charge $35 for one fucking movie.

Best Buy has some of the worst prices on HD & Blu-Ray movies. They're typically exactly at the MSRP. So far I haven't found a B&M store that I'll buy new HD flicks from, online prices (mainly amazon) tend to be way better.
20 Aug 2007, 10:08 PM
Melf

Quote:

Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid

I noticed somebody said this means that there will be no Indy 4 on Blu-Ray...but isn't the ENTIRE Indy Triology Paramount? Or at least the first movie is...doesn't the Paramount Mountain Logo fade into a real mountain at the beginning of Raiders of the Lost Ark? Or were the rights to the original triology sold to a different studio?

All of them are Paramount.
21 Aug 2007, 10:51 AM
B-Ri

Quote:

So by now you've heard that Paramount has dropped support for Blu-ray right? Good, so has a notable Hollywood director. Michael Bay -- the man behind "Transformers," "Bad Boys," "Pear Harbor," etc. -- just threw down with Paramount in his personal blog. In a forum post titled "Paramount pisses me off!", he states, "I want people to see my movies in the best formats possible. For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!"

lol, i still hate you bay.
21 Aug 2007, 11:00 AM
bbobb

Paramount has done us all a great boon.
21 Aug 2007, 11:03 AM
ElCapichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeno G

Best Buy has some of the worst prices on HD & Blu-Ray movies. They're typically exactly at the MSRP. So far I haven't found a B&M store that I'll buy new HD flicks from, online prices (mainly amazon) tend to be way better.

The best prices I have found (about 95% of the time) have been from target.com. While the targets around me have maybe 15 titles per format, I just print off the page for the movie I want and price match at CC or BB. Usually save around $5-$10 that way.
21 Aug 2007, 02:21 PM
Wildkat

Quote:

For them to deny people who have Blu-ray sucks! They were progressive by having two formats. No Transformers 2 for me!"

Translation:

Quote:

For them to deny people who have Blu-ray is just what I was looking for to bitch about. Bigger Transformers 2 moneyhat for me!"
21 Aug 2007, 04:54 PM
Konketsu

Paramount is paid to support HD-DVD
21 Aug 2007, 04:58 PM
Yoshi

In two years when HD-DVD no longer exists, you can buy any Paramount movie you want on Blu-Ray.
21 Aug 2007, 05:06 PM
MechDeus

Disney made Blu-Ray mall castles. That's awesome.
21 Aug 2007, 07:22 PM
B-Ri

the article mentions it, and my friend had texted me. No Speiglburgs were included in the deal, his movies are neutral format. Bay will probably try for that as well (although hes a hack).

What blu ray movies has paramount dreamworks even released? I dont believe i have any.

Also LOL at the idea that they did this to get free $150 mil and then go blu-ray when hddvd dies.
22 Aug 2007, 12:04 AM
EMAGDNIM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

In two years when HD-DVD no longer exists, you can buy any Paramount movie you want on Blu-Ray.

Yeppers :lol:
22 Aug 2007, 12:29 AM
Space Pirate Roberts

I find it difficult to believe $150 mil is enough to make up for the sales they've lost by climbing onto the sinking ship.
22 Aug 2007, 01:39 AM
B-Ri

like i said, bay is such a hack.

Quote:

Michael Bay HD-DVD post
08/21/2007 07:51 PM
Last night at dinner I was having dinner with three Blu-Ray owners, they were pissed about no Transformers Blu-Ray and I drank the kool aid hook line and sinker. So at 1:30 in the morning I posted - nothing good ever comes out of early am posts mind you - I over reacted. I heard where Paramount is coming from and the future of HD and players that will be close to the $200 mark which is the magic number. I like what I heard.

As a director, I'm all about people seeing films in the best quality possible, and I saw and heard firsthand people upset about a corporate decision.

So today I saw 300 on HD-DVD, it rocks!

So I think I might be back on to do Transformers 2!

Michael Bay

http://www.michaelbay.com/blog/index.html

my friend who linked me says the blog is 100% real and him, because he and his boss (a producer) spent all day on it when bay badmouthed him.
22 Aug 2007, 03:02 AM
George

Michael Bay is a goddamn bitch.
22 Aug 2007, 03:10 AM
Grave

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Bay

I drank the kool aid hook line and sinker

one cliche at a time you fucking retard
25 Aug 2007, 10:31 PM
B-Ri

http://www.imdb.com/poll/results
25 Aug 2007, 11:35 PM
George

You could poll the retards at IMDB on whether or not they like breathing oxygen and most would respond "What is oxygen?" Next up would be "I don't use oxygen so I don't care."
28 Aug 2007, 12:48 PM
cka

yeah, this threads description/tag kinda fits now

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Commando-Blu.../dp/B000K0YLM8
28 Aug 2007, 03:20 PM
Port

!!!!!!!!!!

My PS3 purchase has officially been justified.
14 Sep 2007, 08:30 PM
nixhex311

Great, another company wants to drag this out even longer
http://www.nmeinc.com/press_main.aspx

I guess at least it's a lot cheaper than the others at launch, but how well supported will it be?
01 Nov 2007, 12:11 PM
Wildkat

A few months ago I thought the war was over and Blu-Ray had won. I even told a few people who were shopping to get a Blu-Ray player. But now... not so sure.

In case you havent been paying attention..

1) Paramount goes HD-DVD exclusive, just in time for Transformers to be a HD-DVD only title, and breaks sales records.

2) The Xbox 360 add-on drive is selling like hot-cakes after the Heroes Season 1 deal.

3) Rumors are flying that warner is going HD-DVD exclusive as well, as thier membership in the BDA expires today.

4) BD+ has been cracked, so there goes the "exclusive security" advantage.

5) Now, today http://www.engadgethd.com/2007/11/01...iday-wal-mart/

Wal-mart has a deal on the toshiba A2 HD-DVD player @ $100 this friday and a ton of titles on sale for $15.

So i guess.... LOL@Blu-ray all over again.
01 Nov 2007, 12:48 PM
George

I told my folks to get a Blu Ray player as well, since Disney supports it and I have a really young brother who would benefit. But I'm sending them over to Walmart this weekend to take advantage of that deal and I think they'll be satisfied. Does the A2 have HDMI?
01 Nov 2007, 01:10 PM
Some Stupid Japanese Name

I've never seen any HD DVD stuff at walmart. Just the occasional Bluray in with the PS3 games.
01 Nov 2007, 01:10 PM
Shin Johnpv

Holy Shit I hope the walmart by me has that this Friday I will be snatching it for sure if it does.
01 Nov 2007, 01:19 PM
Wildkat

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Originally Posted by TrialSword

I told my folks to get a Blu Ray player as well, since Disney supports it and I have a really young brother who would benefit. But I'm sending them over to Walmart this weekend to take advantage of that deal and I think they'll be satisfied. Does the A2 have HDMI?

Yeah it does. its a pretty nice player actually, worth it for the upscaling of regular DVDs alone.
01 Nov 2007, 01:19 PM
mollipen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildkat

1) Paramount goes HD-DVD exclusive, just in time for Transformers to be a HD-DVD only title, and breaks sales records.

Paramount lied about the sales numbers for Transformers. Sales were around 115k, instead of the 195k that Paramount tried to say.

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2) The Xbox 360 add-on drive is selling like hot-cakes after the Heroes Season 1 deal.

Sales took off for the player once people found out you could get two free box sets with the add-on... which, I mean, who wouldn't pick one up at that point?

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3) Rumors are flying that warner is going HD-DVD exclusive as well, as thier membership in the BDA expires today.

Keep up on the rumors... initially it was thought that they'd go HD-DVD, but then after the comments of Warner at the Blu-ray show on Tuesday, it sounded more likely that they'd go Blu-ray only. (Unless what was said was a blatant lie.) Of course, it's all still totally rumor as of now.

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Wal-mart has a deal on the toshiba A2 HD-DVD player @ $100 this friday and a ton of titles on sale for $15.

Too bad Wal-mart's ad (at least one version that's been show) lists it as a standard DVD player.

The Paramount switch was a big deal, yes. But nothing else has happened as of late to seriously turn the tide. Everybody knew that Toshiba was pushing for a $199 HD-DVD player - they've been going for that for months. Non-hardware sales wise, Transformers wasn't the dominating force that Paramount wanted people to believe, Blu-ray STILL won the week sales wise thanks to Blu-ray sales that took place that week, and for the rest of the year, if you look at HD-DVD releases versus Blu-ray releases, HD-DVD is going to get absolutely killed.

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