Winamp has an ipod plug in. I use it for my friends ipods. It pops up as another drive and you just drag and drop files.
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Winamp has an ipod plug in. I use it for my friends ipods. It pops up as another drive and you just drag and drop files.
A buddy of mine keeps telling the iPod Winamp plug-in works well. It's certainly better than installing a 30 MB program, though not as cool as full HD support (with access to the media). I'm assuming it also interfaces the iPod's database in a way that facilitates easier song access? I think previously you had to search and grab whole albums, with the some of the earlier user-coded patches anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
They are coding for alot of things these days. Way back when I had my clunker, USB 1.0 10Gig Archos Studio - Rockbox firmware was a must. Theirs better conserved the battery, allowed fade-in and out of audio, allowed adjustment of the charging system for higher capacity (user replaceable AA's) cells. Was is Creative (not sure) who actually encouraged them to do a custom interface?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
I'm still holding on to an idea that almost harkens back to the Dreamcast VMU, the ability to share content on this little gadget. Imagine if right now, every iPod could interface and share. All they need is that standard USB drive/host support and it's possible. The players exist now, Microsoft needs to have the balls to do the right thing. Hell, they can even do it wirelessly - it'll be slower and eat batteries (that's OK, it's removable) but just have the OPTION. Otherwise, USB 2.0 and possibly Firewire would do.
DRM'ed content is still protected (WMA, purchased video) while MP3's, digital pictures directly loaded from your camera and other videos are open. Do it Allard I dare ya.......
iTunes is awesome, I have never had a desire for another media player. "clunky"? LOL.
While I know there's tons of unnecessary iPod fanboyism out there, railing on Apple for making a beautiful and well-designed system for integrating a music player and a computer is just ridiculous. Reminds me of people who want to organize all their music by hand when iTunes does it all for you, perfectly, behind the scenes. I've used other company's software, I've used the direct through My Computer thing, nothing is as slick as iTunes.
Some people want to put music on their player, listen to it, and listen to music on their computer. iPod is for those people (I am one of them, even the iPod video is excessive for me but w/e). Some people want to jerk off to tech specs and bullet lists on the box. For the latter group, iPod has never been for you, so stop bitching about it.
Except more then half of my music is disorganized by Itunes because it's not labeled properly. I have to have over 15gb of music that can't be organized by Itunes because of the way the MP3's were labeled, where does Itunes help me there?
Hell, I just checked, and I have over 20 cd's that are "new artist" since they were live shows that I downloaded. Go Itunes! While I agree with you that Itunes is very easy to use, and not as clunky as people are making it out to be, there's no way in hell you can rely on Itunes to organize your music collection when you have one as large as mine. And I'm sure that's the case for many other people too. I LOL'ed when you said that Itunes organizes your music perfectly, seriously, it's the worst feature in Itunes.
That's because your ID3 tags are fucked up. Get your shit together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brand X
My iTunes is picture perfect.
I realize this, but either I go through 20+gb of music and fix the ID3 tags, or I just download music into specific folders where I want them. Which is easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Unless there's an easy way to fix ID3 tags that I'm missing. Which there very well might be.
edit: And also, I agree with whoever said the Winamp Ipod plug in rocks, because it totally does.
It boggles my mind when intelligent people can't do something as simple as keep their ID3 tags straight. Don't get me started about the absurd shit I've seen on last.fm as a result.
ProTip: You can edit large groups of songs at once in iTunes. I was using a friend's iPod and I noticed he had 3 listings for the same artist, all spelled differently, and several albums were actually broken up between the three of them. It blew my mind. There is absolutely no excuse. It's not hard work and it makes life easier for everyone. You can't blame iTunes for not storing your music properly if you weren't willing to right click, click Get Info, and give it some direction.
When I download an album with fucked up ID3 tags, instead of shaking my fist at iTunes for putting them in the wrong place, I fix them. Wow. Keeping 20+ GB of music straight isn't hard. Seriously.
Grave is so right.
Funny that the same people that ask for more features/more power/more control are often the same people that can't keep their fucking ID3 tags up to date.
Clunky was the unit itself, nothing more than a laptop harddrive and 4 AA's in low-resin plastic and metal. It sounded (sounds actually, it still works) good though, and was the first HD-based player sold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
I'm not railing on the interface, I just don't use it. And there's NO reason at all why they can't have the same interface along with standard USB support. That's my issue. If a big enough manufacturer steps and does this (it really needs drive and host support), it would be cool as fuck and could even push Apple to open up. I really don't think the "powers that be" in the end could prevent it from happening, if the right company steps up to the plate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
If "by hand" you mean opening Exact Audio Copy, pressing the DB button, and ripping the album directly to my MP3 player then YES. I want to do this "by hand". It's fucking cake and produces the desired results, every time. Well, except with self-burned discs or very small releases - but that's all up to the database.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
I've heard the new Winamp (with that plug-in) is kick-ass for use with the iPod. And all that organizing stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
I could give a rat-ass about bullet lists and the like. I'm happy playing music the way I always have on my computer. What I don't want is to HAVE to install a program that's gonna want to be my "media center" and take over just to access what's on a damn iPod. I don't care how great the program is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Maybe it's just me. I rip a disc when I get it, and it goes on my MP3 player. I can make playlists on the player (or with Winamp on PC) and everything is organized in folders by artist, just like my CD collection. If I'm on the computer I dock and access the folders/playlists in seconds and away I go. What am I missing, listening stats and playing by genre, what my favorite songs (most played) are, etc. etc? If I want it I'll use Winamp.
I could imagine programs that play based on past listening habits, or recommend based on mood, whatever. I just play the album or the mix, and away I go. Some playlists are "mellow" and others for fast driving. Maybe it'll be random, maybe not. I have tried iTunes - though what I really wanted was access to the store and not an all-encompassing media program. I also had Sony Connect for a short while (unfortunately) and it's the same deal with their "store", only it's quite obviously junk from the get-go.
Microsoft has the chance here to do something different and set themselves apart. They probably won't - but there's still that chance.
The only thing different about the iTunes experience is that its done in one program, it goes in your mp3 folder automatically, and it goes on your iPod automatically. Any playlist you make in the iTunes gets uploaded to the iPod automatically, and everything is sorted by artist (or album, or whatever) - just like your CD collection.Quote:
Maybe it's just me. I rip a disc when I get it, and it goes on my MP3 player. I can make playlists on the player (or with Winamp on PC) and everything is organized in folders by artist, just like my CD collection.
I can understand why you wouldn't want a program to do all that for you, but it strikes me as ideological rather than practical.
The thing is, people like you are so clearly in the minority that it doesn't make sense for them to. People want a program that will handle things as deftly as iTunes does. Just look at sales. You probably think everyone has been "duped" by Apple's marketing but that is a laughable explanation when applied to anything. Apple made a product that works the way people expect the PC music experience to work and are reaping the fruits of their labor.Quote:
Microsoft has the chance here to do something different and set themselves apart. They probably won't - but there's still that chance.