Stop getting married at 20 years old.

$22M is fucking peanuts. The guy is way overpaid, but that's not that much money when divided among thousands of employees.

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You just don't get it. US companies compete with European and Asian companies, not just other US companies. Our salaries are already higher than anywhere else, so if more regulations are put on them, that only benefits the foreign companies. Again, standards of living don't improve when there are less companies with less jobs.

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European and Asian companies that give their employees pensions and job security, you mean?

Maybe the fight is on health care, if the government was providing it then the companies wouldn't have to pay for it out of pocket.

But you're against that, too.

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$22M is fucking peanuts. The guy is way overpaid, but that's not that much money when divided among thousands of employees.

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He's not the only exec at Pfizer, he's not the only one that uses the corporate jet, has a fleet of drivers, etc.

If the government provided health care, then it would tax both the companies and workers more to pay for it. Money comes from private business and nowhere else.

No NATIONAL health care, ever, thanks.

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European and Asian companies that give their employees pensions and job security, you mean?

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They have more benefits and much lower wages. This is even true of Canada. It's not the companies' fault that their employees are too stupid to invest or buy healthcare with the additional wages.

See this is the inherent problem with Democrats, they want to give the people welfare, and health care, and cars, and places to stay. To do this, they raise taxes, and raise taxes, and raise taxes. Problem Diff is that their is a threshold where Billy Joe Average can't afford to pay any more taxes.

No, we need welfare reform, and no national healthcare, period.

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He's not the only exec at Pfizer, he's not the only one that uses the corporate jet, has a fleet of drivers, etc.

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I understand. I think we're all on the same page that execs piss away ridiculous amounts of money.

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If the government provided health care, then it would tax both the companies and workers more to pay for it. Money comes from private business and nowhere else.

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Look at the stats. We spend more as a % of GDP than any country with nationalized health care. AND get inferior care for routine procedures. AND 45 million people don't get any care at all. The cheapest and most well-run healthcare 'businesses' in the US are Medicare and the VA. Coincidence?

Just go to any country's citizen and ask them, "would you rather get taxed at the rate you get taxed here + national health care or get taxed at the US rate + the US health system".

I refuse to buy the line that we have to shit on the workforce or there are no jobs for anyone. Thats the line that has been fed by countless companies and Administrations.

What's wrong with national healthcare? Seems like a good idea to me.

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I understand. I think we're all on the same page that execs piss away ridiculous amounts of money.

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Your are paid what you are worth, period.

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What's wrong with national healthcare? Seems like a good idea to me.

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You ever been to Canada my man?