Fair Tax

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon

Society is doomed to fail if people keep thinking about themselves. I understand human nature and the fact that people are greedy people but that doesn't stop me from thinking that everyone needs help and they should get it.

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It's also doomed to mediocrity if everyone thinks mainly about others. Some of the best shit ever was derived from pure selfishness.

You need a balance.

It's the communist in me that wants equally across the board.

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon

This thread got all sorts of out of control.

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I know I was just hoping that some one like Diff X or OMFG or whoever could give me some more info an insight into Fair Tax and other stuff, well tax related stuff. Now we're talking about Islam vs. America.......... Good debates though IMO (well entertaining at least) so I hope it keeps up for another shit load of pages.

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

According to the Koran only a follower of Allah can be considered innocent in the eyes of the faithful.

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Specific sura please. Look, SpoDaddy, don't try to lecture on Islam because you clearly have no understanding of it. Go and read this and then hopefully you can debate intellectually on the subject.

this thread is stupid.

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon

This thread got all sorts of out of control.

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Tell me about it.

What I'm taking from it is that somehow the Muslims factor into us receiving a fair tax code.

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Originally Posted by g0zen

Not at all. I readily admitted that there were controversial verses in the Quran, but that article is so lop-sided as to be laughable. I'm not a Muslim apologist, but I do recognize that the Quran isn't a book of hate. Notice how your little article fails to mention that the Quran forbides the killing of any innocent civilians; women, children, the sick, and the elderly. Or any of the other tolerant verses that I already talked about.

You're going to have to come up with more than a petty hatesheet that takes a few verses and draws sweeping conclusions about the whole religion. I could easily do the same to the bible.

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So know you know more about the Koran than a Muslim and Hindu who have lived their for over 40 years? That's laughable Gozen.

You feel that sting, that's just pride fucking with you, fuck pride.

I will say that excusing all the clear attacks on infidels by the Koran is pretty lame Gozen.

I will also concede that the Old Testament is everybit as violent.

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Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba

So know you know more about the Koran than a Muslim and Hindu who have lived their for over 40 years? That's laughable Gozen.

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If that's what they think then apparently I do. I wouldn't be that surprised either, how many lifelong Christians do you that have little to no idea what's in the bible? Hell, Colbert showed on national television that one of the far-right evangelicals couldn't even name the ten commandments.

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Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba

I will say that excusing all the clear attacks on infidels by the Koran is pretty lame Gozen.

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I never excused them. In fact I outright said I'm not a Muslim apologist. I'm not going to say there isn't that aspect in Islam, but what I made clear was that I'm not going to be so dense as to just outright say that it's the only aspect and that Islam is a unique 'religion of violence'.

This thread has gone in strange directions...

so what is fair tax? just a flat percentage? or what?

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Originally Posted by M

This thread has gone in strange directions...

so what is fair tax? just a flat percentage? or what?

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You get a hefty tax break if you excuse Islamic terrorism. But you have to donate the money to John McCain in 2008.