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Might as well be some kind of official thread.
Here's the new slow-mo custom trick mode, which actually looks awesome: http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...pe=wmv&pl=game
Still looks like a big departure from the rest of the series, but not as much as the original trailer made it out to be. Definitely something I'm looking forward to.
I'm actually interested in this game after reading OXM's preview.
I had no interest in Tony Hawk 8 until I watched that video. Is that just one aspect of the game, or the main focus?
That looked really fun.
I haven't played a Tony Hawk since Underground (which is the best one imo) but this looks like a good place to get back into the series.
I'm guessing that that mode replaces the Focus mode from THUG2, so you'll probably build up a meter and use it in each big combo.Quote:
I had no interest in Tony Hawk 8 until I watched that video. Is that just one aspect of the game, or the main focus?
After being burnt out after Tony 3 I'm all about this one. And after looking at more videos, this is looking really damn good.
They still make Tony Hawk games?
it's like madden. new graphics and a handfull of "upgrades" every year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
So it looks like we'll have to wait until Project 9 for them to incorporate grabs into the slo-mo combos...
That's a good point. Guess they wanted to concentrate on kick tricks and leave something for the next game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Videodrone
Why quote 'em? The only thing I don't like is the off-board stuff, but all the other gameplay additions (rolls, focus, wallplants, etc) have been pretty significant.Quote:
it's like madden. new graphics and a handfull of "upgrades" every year.
Madden madden hasn't got new graphics in five years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonmaster Dyne
I was super into the series a few years ago, especially 4 and Underground 1. I haven't played the last 2 games but this looks like it's going to be great.
Are THUG2 and THAW worth playing?
THAW moreso than THUG2. If you liked the original Underground, you'd probably like Wasteland.
Play THUG2 only if you hate yourself and have a burning desire to suffer.
I'm excited for this game, but it sucks because I'm only going to be able to play the PS2 version and not the next gen ones. This is one of the only games that would actually tempt me to buy a next gen console, but I think I'd rather keep that $400+ in my pocket instead.
From planettonyhawk.com:
I can tell just by looking at the videos the difference between the engines, this is what I am most looking foward to trying out.Quote:
The Releases
The first thing to elaborate on here are the different versions of Tony Hawk's Project 8. There will be 2 completely different games here. While they will have many things in common, they will have major differences on many levels. The reasons behind this are simple. First, they are being developed on different platforms. Second, each are being handled by different developers. Here is the breakdown of what we are looking at come November 7th (when all 5 versions are slated to be released).
Next-Gen: Xbox360 & Playstation 3
Current Gen: Xbox, Playstation 2, PSP
The former 2 versions are being crafted by the hands that created the series to begin with, Neversoft. The latter, Shaba is handling. Why is there no GameCube port? I don't really know, but those gamers are sadly out of luck.
Surely you've seen the new videos of THP8 and thought, "HOLY CRAP! Is it going to look that good?!" The answer is a resounding, "YES!" However, it's not going to look any different than the last few games if you're playing a PS2 or an Xbox. It would really be silly to imagine otherwise. In fact, most of the hefty changes coming will likely be implemented on the next-gen consoles and not the current ones. For instance, the NG game will truly feature a huge world in which you can traverse w/out load times. The current generation will almost certainly function the same way THAW did. For anyone who played the last few games should expect a similar game. However, as of this writing, virtually nothing is known of the PS2/PSP/Xbox version of the game. Outside of Shaba's involvement, we haven't seen a pic or heard a peep. Nothing. Therefore, the remainder of this article will focus almost exclusively on the next-gen game, unless otherwise noted.
Anyone who owns a 360 or plans on getting a PS3 when it launches (good luck!) will get to enjoy the new engine in all its glory. This truly is the 3rd generation of Hawk titles. THPS 3 changed it all by appearing on the PS2, and now THP8 does it all over again by being built from the ground up on new hardware. While changes have been made over the past 5 years, THAW utilizes very much of what THP 3 was built on, and it shows. This is not a port, this is everything new, and that's why it's so exciting.
What they're doing with the PS2 version sounds cool. THAW's engine with redesigns of classic levels? I'm in.Quote:
Levels
One of the biggest selling points in THAW was the open-world concept. The ability to skate from one side of LA to another, without load times. This was accomplished, but many scoffed at the manner in which it was executed. As mentioned above, this will still be the case on the older platforms, but with the next-gen titles, it will be done as many envisioned last year. In fact, this is going to be an incredible element of the game and should get rid of individual stages as a whole, at least in story mode.
Many people wondered if we would see a different city for the follow-up to THAW, perhaps New York, Chicago, another Californian city? This time around the developers opted for an anthology of Hawk levels in a fictional universe. Familiar locales such as Suburbia and the schools (I, II and College) will return to create a fully functional world. Just how involved this will be remains to be seen, but I have a good feeling that it will be a fantastic part of THP8.
Meh, none of that stuff intrests me. I hate having to use the analog sticks in these games, and focus mode has always been useless.Quote:
Gameplay additions:
More Realistic Skating
I can't be too specific here due to lack of information, but as Noe detailed in his E3 Preview, there will be some new changes to the fundamentals of the skating engine. He points out that even kickflips will be affected. By this it's stated that "You simply cannot just ollie and do a kickflip. You have to be going a certain speed, ollie at a certain height and/or flip the board and catch it clean to land the kickflip." Noe continues on to say that reality hasn't taken out the arcade-style fun, but rather it may enhance the pacing to make it more rewarding.
Focus Mode
The focus mode will return with some interesting additions. More of a functional way of skating, your character can perform special flips while in this mode now. By utilizing the analog sticks, you can control late flips and underflips by tapping directions. This can be seen in the first gameplay footage (see the THP8 Movies page). It looks awesome and should provide a stylish way to add depth to the already incredible trick system.
Breaking Bones
I fear the concept of this may diminish the feel of the game, but now you will be able to control your character as they bail. In this manner you can attempt to hurt your skater as much as possible, and be rewarded by it! This will have ragdoll physics, so expect some absurd and utterly painful bails. The left analog will control the character while the right will control tumbling and rolling. Here your special meter will be replaced by one which counts the number of bones you break. Gone will be the tantrum feature and some goals will actually ask you to hurt your skater as much as possible (thus ensuring a T rating at least! heh.) A new stat has been created for this purpose. Fortunately, returning also will be the ability to quickly get out of a fall.
New Multiplayer Mode
Returning will be all the functionality of online modes in the past. Xbox Live will carry all the gameplay modes as well as extensive high score tables. The current-gen titles will likely contain everything they had in the past, but nothing is known about Sony's plans for the PS3.
One new game available in multiplayer is Snake Mode. Here skaters leave a trail and attempt to box each other in, much like the old game snake.
THAW is a lot of fun, but the story mode sucks, its one giant tutorial. If you're out of practice with the series I would recommend THAW, just because the story mode forces you to learn every little thing step by step. The things that matter about THAW are quite good actually. The game has some excellent levels and a lot of the new shit they added is awesome, but they also fucked up a bunch of shit too.Quote:
I was super into the series a few years ago, especially 4 and Underground 1. I haven't played the last 2 games but this looks like it's going to be great.
Are THUG2 and THAW worth playing?
Here are more detailed impressions:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...&postcount=130
Anyway, I think the game is good (its pretty much the only game I've been playing for the past year), although most of the fans think it sucks.
Oh, and THUG2 is not as awful as some would have you believe, I know I'm in the minority, but I actually like it.
I just played THAW all night and finished 42 of the 45 achievements. I didn't have very much fun.
I mean it's Tony Hawk so it's not like it's a complete chore to play but between the horrible art direction, crappy character models, sub par graphics and shitty level design nothing ever impressed me. Not to mention Mindy is fat and ugly.
If TH8 doesn't bring a more realistic look to characters and levels (not to mention bring back quality layout of ramps and rails) I'm going to have to pass. I still say Underground is the best game in the series so far.
Which levels did you hate the most? What did you think of east la and downtown?Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
I hated every level.
Nothing said "well planned out" or " interesting art direction" in any of the areas. Especially East LA. That level completely sucked dick.
It's interesting you say that, since most people (myself included) consider it to be one of the best levels in the history of the series. It really is extremely well designed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
The last Tony Hawk I played was THPS2 and I am seriously scared of trying it again because of all the crap in THUG2, THAW, etc. I was thinking THPS4, or maybe 2X on the Xbox.
2X is actually a lot better than I expected it to be. It's basically just all the levels from part 1 and 2, with a few new ones crammed into one game running under the thps2 engine. It's a fun game to play just to kill some time with, that's all well and good, but the current game engine is just light years ahead of it. It feels like your skating in slow motion compared to newer games. As for starting off with part 4, that's not a bad idea, most people consider it to be the best in the series, and it's a great improvement over part 3, plus you can probably get it for less than $10 these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
It's like a big empty aqua duct and a small shitty square of stores. That level sucks ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Regus
Give me Alcatraz over that any day of the week.
I tried THAW awhile ago and didn't like how fast it was. That coupled with the camera being so fucking close to your character made it a lot harder than past games. I only played it for like 2 hours so I never got the hang of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Regus
Another hour or two and you could have finished the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
any word on whether this is going to be as "thuggish" as the last few. My son loves the gameplay, but I'm not thrilled with how "mature" the games became after the 4th one.
Doesn't look like it from what I've seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusC
Has anyone downloaded the demo on xbox live? I've seen videos of it, and I've read things that leads me to think that a lot of the haters might be happier to know that the new game is a lot less like the last few games, and supposedly more like a blend of thps2 and 3.
I'm not really pleased with that since I like the newer style, but whatever I'll still play it eventually.
I've gotten the demo, having a lot of fun with it. I've somewhat been keeping up with the gameplay updates, so going right into tricks and combos was really easy. The "Nail the Trick" slo-mo thing can get really engrossing, I found myself trying to insert it into every combo, numerous times.
I have never repeatedly played a demo as much as I have repeatedly played the Project 8 demo.
Day ONE.
PS: Wow, what a Jemery post...
Look at this video of some one playing thp8 using the PS3's six axis controls. Personally I think this is super retarded and I hope its only an option and not required.
If the 360 version has standard control, I don't think there's any possibility of that option not being on the PS3.
1up gives Tony a 9 out of 10. Called the best in the series, besting THPS4!
In other news, the current gen versions for poor folk such as myself actually don't sound like shitty ports, and the 360 version struggles to maintain 30fps.
I like THUG2.
I loved the demo, not so much liking the full game. Mostly because in the demo I didnt really give a rats ass about the missions and just skated' around, in the full game theres an overwhelming number of missions I couldnt care less about (unfortunately I believe thats how you unlock everything).
Then again, I only played the game for about half an hour, maybe it just takes getting used to.
Have you ever played a THPS game? It's always been missions and shit. Hows the framerate? Master told me last night it's noticable, but how bad are we talking about? This should have been smooth as silk the whole time.
This is from IGN's review of the PS2 version of THP8:
Seriously, what the fuck, that is retarded. He calls the ps2 version the worst tony hawk ever, giving it a 6.3. What really sucks is how they stripped all the create a modes down or got rid of them all together, and why the hell does this version not have online support?Quote:
How to Ruin Tony Hawk
Some absolutely terrible decisions were made for the current-gen Tony Hawk. Inexplicably, Shaba decided to alter one of the most basic control functions. Ever since Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2, gamers have pushed up-down (or down-up) to manual. This is how tricks were first linked and became the basis for the series' insanely long trick lines. In Project 8, you can still use the old way to manual, or you can press a face button to instantly manual. And, you don't have to revert anymore out of a quarterpipe. The new manual button covers the revert and continues the line. What. The. F@$&.
This ruins Tony Hawk. Ruins it. As I said before, this is Tony Hawk for dummies. Manual balance is also far too easy and coupled with the simplicity of the new trick system, pulling off huge combos can be done without any effort. I don't know who thought this is necessary for what is likely the final current-gen Tony Hawk, but they should be forced to sit in the corner for the next year.
Sadly, this is the only option available to me since I won't be getting either of the next gen systems any time soon.
What ever, I'll still play it.
Also, I watched the video review of the next gen version, and I just want to point something out that he mentioned. He said that this was the first tony hawk in the past 5 years that actually had new stuff in there for you to learn. All I have to say about that is that I've been playing THUG1 again lately, and after 3 years of trying, I've FINALLY figured out how to wallie shuffle and how to do late ollies off of wallplants, not to mention how to wallie boost. Once you learn how to do this shit the game blows wide open and its like playing an entirely new game. I've been finding lines and transfers that I never even thought would be possible back when I first started playing this game.
I'm finally starting to understand the true reason why the hardcore thps fans dislike THUG and THAW. THUG1 is without a doubt the most technical game in the series. You can do so much stylish shit in it, and neversoft stripped most of that away in the later games.
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Originally Posted by Regus
Going by this last paragraph, did you mean to say "the hardcore thps fans dislike THUG 2" or THUG?
I agree though, those changes suck big time.
oops, yeah I meant THUG2. There is so much stuff you can do in thug1 that you can't do in the others, or at least can't do as easily.
Have YOU ever played a THPS game?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Anyway played the game more its starting to grow on me.
Brutality.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stark
Stopped playing at THPS 3. Get high score missions and collecting letters and shit. Then you grind, grind, grind.
Bought this today and I'm really digging it. It just really needed more time to be optimized. When the framerate drops it spasms like a light induced epileptic seizure. The PS3 review I read said that framerate was even worse! Really sucks, a solid 30fps would make a big difference.
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Originally Posted by Stark
Honestly, what were you expecting?
I've put a little bit of time into it, and really, the Square button isn't an issue to me. The original controls still function perfectly, and I think it's way safer to hit up-down than to assume that hitting square won't throw you into an unexpected double kickflip or something.Quote:
Seriously, what the fuck, that is retarded. He calls the ps2 version the worst tony hawk ever, giving it a 6.3. What really sucks is how they stripped all the create a modes down or got rid of them all together, and why the hell does this version not have online support?
That aside. 30 fps blows, and there's a definite huge drop in customization, but I've liked pretty much everything else about the game. The level design seems really nice, I love the speed boosts, and I'm warming up to nail the trick the more I use it.