Actually I wouldn't be surprised at all. Her sister had it pretty rough.
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Actually I wouldn't be surprised at all. Her sister had it pretty rough.
I couldn't tell you. She was 17 & homeless. I didn't really see her around that time. I do know the baby's father was an alcoholic at the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wildkat
Yes, the girl was very, very, very wrong. She killed her child. She was neglectful, she shouldn't have had a child if she wasn't willing to look after it. My whole point is that a child could have grown up to be something other than a fuck up.
I'm not sure I understand the argument you're making (how am I saying birth control shouldn't have been invented?), so I'll just say this: if you aren't ready to take up the responsibility of a baby should you or your partnet get pregnant (with or without the use of birth control), then yes, of course you shouldn't be having sex. I mean, that's kind of a no brainer to me. Sex, in its primary function, is to have children, so if you're going to be doing something that is MEANT for the creation of a child, fun or not, if you aren't ready to deal with the child should it be created, then you shouldn't be doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
Is your cousin going out and getting drunk off of her ass instead of taking care of her kid? If so, then yeah, she's trash. If not, then I never said that girls that get knocked up are trash - I said THIS girl is trash, for far more than that. I also said nothing negative about girls who decide they need to give up their babies or whatever. If you HAVE a baby, and KEEP the baby, then you should TAKE CARE of the baby. That's what I said.Quote:
My cousin has a kid at 18. She had been on birth control for two years and was careful about interaction from medication. Since she doesn't believe in abortion, yeah, she kept the child. Is she trash? Are the girls who do give their babies up trash for not 'manning up' and being a parent?
I think you're getting a bit over-emotional about what I said without fully reading what I said.
Sorry, but I'm not going to feel sad about some girl who'd rather be selfish and have her fun than actually take care of her kid. Yeah, I'm not in her place, so what? Just because you're in a shitty situation doesn't give you a free pass to be a f**k-up and then get off scott free.Quote:
I'm not defending this girl; I absolutely don't think teenagers should be drinking like that, let alone if they had a child. But seeing as how she's in a shelter because she had nowhere else to go and was clearly pretty freaked out, I don't see how you guys just don't find that remotely worthy of being sad about for her in even the slightest sense.
Shidoshi is right.
He's been right throughout this entire thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Yoshi is right.
That's been true throughout countless threads. ;)
My only thing to add is that abortion is not good, but pre-marital sex is okay?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
Female logic, Calliander. Be careful, trying to understand it may make your head explode.
Most people can justify pre-marital sex a lot easier than they can terminating a pregnancy. She messed up, but it's not her belief to kill a child because she messed up. I can't take a strong stand on either side of the abortion debate, and you know what, pre-marital sex happens. I wish people were less stupid about it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calliander