because bush wants to be the only person to screw you in the ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
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because bush wants to be the only person to screw you in the ass?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
What possible evidence makes you claim either of those things? What special homo-reasons do homosexuals have for marriage that heterosexuals don't? Also, why are they somehow better able to discuss and / or solve marital issues? This is the same argument made by the pundits, except in reverse. You're elevating gay marriage where they elevate straight marriage, both are completely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
marriage is part of a relationship bond based on sex. Friends do not get married; people who want to fuck get married. Gay people have a different sexuality than hetero people. It is the defining difference between the two. It is therefore somewhat reasonable to say that they might very well have different reasons for getting married.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
Also, since gay people getting married is a not a norm, gay people do not feel the pressure of shit like "everyone is getting married" because clearly not everyone that is gay, is. Kind of like how you feel no pressure from society to wear a dress or be pretty (which you aren’t, ugly.) Since they are less likely to feel pressure from others to get married, they are more likely to do so becuase of their own thoughts and feelings.
As for marital issues, I'm going on the fact that they can probably argue ANY issue on the same wave length. People of the same sex are more likely to think alike or at least argue on the same page. Of course I don't expect you to know that. God only knows when the last time you talked to a girl.
Oh, and I said "maybe" meaning I was just guessing. Don't be such a tool over a guess.
Right now, gay couples that are seriously fighting for the right to have their relationship legally recognized have probably been together a while, and they're probably pretty serious about marrying. Just as a thought, I doubt they're going to divorce as frivolously as the rate is for the average American marriage. Chances are that the gay couples have already been living together for quite a while and are married in every way but on paper. This is only a reflection of a portion of gay couples and only for this time, right now. They're not somehow better at relationships that heterosexuals or less likely to divorce, I just think that a current group right now probably has a better shot at keeping a marriage going than average straight couples. They're people, and they screw up and do stupid shit but they have every right to make the same dumb marriage mistakes that we do, too.
Affluent? certaintly. Religious? only historically. Because of a lack of donations and about $85 million in civil lawsuits against abusive priests, over a hundred Catholic churches have closed in the Boston area in recent years. The only reason people think of religion and Massachusetts in the same sentence is because of the Puritans landing here hundreds of years ago, the "one if by land, two if by sea" candles in the Old North Church that signified the start of the Revolutionary War, and the Catholic sex abuse scandal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diff-chan
Is God gay? Does God have a butt to be gay with? Discuss.
why don't you make a horrable cartoon about it
So when was this unnamed divorce rate study you cited from? Before or after the churches closed? And no matter what, you haven't proved gay marriage has helped make Massachusett's divorce rate the lowest in the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinopio
He's not really addressing the issue, rather giving (I suppose) reasons why he thinks the religiousity of Massachusetts is low, which was never the issue to begin with.
Addressing what Diff mentioned, are any long-term studies even being conducted there? You'd think that it would benefit both sides to conduct them just in case the outcome supports thier viewpoint, this of course is contrary to the scientific method, but in the real world it's damn hard to find a study that isn't tainted by experimenter bias.
As for low divorce correlation / causation fallacy, I would also like to point out how the right have been doing the exact same thing in reverse when they use the low marriage rate of Scandinavian countries which allow homosexual marriage as somehow indicative of a loss of faith in the marriage institution for prospective heterosexual couples because of it. The difference, though, is that I've not seen gay marriage proponents in the media touting low divorce in Massachusetts the way 'defense of marriage' people bring up the latter.
... wait, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks