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No that's an artist's "possible" markup. There's a lot of reasons we don't get what Europe has. Thank our government safety and emissions standards. Don't hate the big three. Even the cars you can import from Asia are better. If we didn't have a gay ass law mandating all cars sold must be right side drive then we would have gotten Skyline GTR and shit that we don't get here.

Drives me nuts when people act like Detroit is too stupid to bring their excellent EU/AU cars here when bringing them here @ US standards would kill the car. Although a European Focus convertible would be gravy.

Now that I'm seeing the new xB out on the road. Yuck. Don't like it at all. It really sucks that Toyota doesn't seem to even understand their own car.

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Originally Posted by torgo

Now that I'm seeing the new xB out on the road. Yuck. Don't like it at all. It really sucks that Toyota doesn't seem to even understand their own car.

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It's ok, they're well on their way to becoming the next GM. The warning signs are plentiful as of now.

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Originally Posted by Bojack

It's ok, they're well on their way to becoming the next GM. The warning signs are plentiful as of now.

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Agreed.

Boring designs for their cars.

Impressive full size trucks.

Not listening to their core audience.

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Originally Posted by Advocate

Agreed.

Boring designs for their cars.

Impressive full size trucks.

Not listening to their core audience.

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Don't forget scrimping on engineering budgets, record recalls, desperate thirst for sales, and ceasing production of cool cars to build boring ass cars. At least Honda hasn't gotten involved in Toyota's obsession with beating Detroit at the full size truck game or NASCAR or other things that don't apply to what got Toyota to where it is today.

Good point. They're forgetting how they got to the Number 1 spot.

Anyone have thoughts/impressions to give on a Mitsu Spyder Eclipse (GT/GS) convertible?

I think they look bad ass, but I can't recall ever seeing one of the road. They made some great commercials for that car.

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Originally Posted by Rumpy

I think they look bad ass, but I can't recall ever seeing one of the road. They made some great commercials for that car.

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http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1180795918

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Originally Posted by haohmaru

Anyone have thoughts/impressions to give on a Mitsu Spyder Eclipse (GT/GS) convertible?

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The current one or one of the older ones? New ones are grossly overweight for their engine/size. Other than that they look like fine cars. I love the design, can't stand what's underneath.