Official MLB 2006 Off-season thread

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Rumors are circulating that the Giants are offering more than $100M. I cannot imagine why they would do this after letting Schmidt walk without so much as a goodbye.

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Maybe because Schmidt isn't th at good of a pitcher?

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Originally Posted by Gohron

Maybe because Schmidt isn't th at good of a pitcher?

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Schmidt is a better pitcher than Zito. He's also older and less durable.

All these articles are saying is that the Rangers believe Zito will be signing elsewhere and they assume it's the Giants. These writers loves jumping to conclusions.

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I'm calling horseshit on this. No way the Giants are dropping nine figures on Zito. I'll believe it when I see him hold the jersey. I think this is another Boras plant since the Yanks rumor didn't generate enough buzz.

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Schmidt is a better pitcher than Zito. He's also older and less durable.

All these articles are saying is that the Rangers believe Zito will be signing elsewhere and they assume it's the Giants. These writers loves jumping to conclusions.

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I don't think Schmidt is better then Zito, he's had 4 years in a 13 year career where his ERA was under 4.00. He's not that bad, but he's certainly no "ace" and his 2006 was nothing to write home about in away way shape or form. I really don't think Zito is all that great either but I'd rather have him then Schmidt.

Debatable. But would you let Schmidt walk without a serious offer just to throw more money and years at Zito with no guarantee you'll close the deal? Even if you like Zito better, you don't like him that much better.

Then again, how much are the Giants paying Bonds to let fly balls drop in front of him next year? What a poorly run organization.

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Rumors are circulating that the Giants are offering more than $100M. I cannot imagine why they would do this after letting Schmidt walk without so much as a goodbye.

That said...if 6/90 would have gotten the job done last week, Omar dropped the ball. I cannot imagine why he would haggle over a 6th year to a young pitcher when he had no qualms dropping 2-year contracts for fossils Franco and Duque.

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The Mets have the money, I question whether Omar really believes Zito in the answer at this point. Perhaps he has a trade up his sleeve.

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Originally Posted by burgundy

Debatable. But would you let Schmidt walk without a serious offer just to throw more money and years at Zito with no guarantee you'll close the deal? Even if you like Zito better, you don't like him that much better.

Then again, how much are the Giants paying Bonds to let fly balls drop in front of him next year? What a poorly run organization.

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Honestly, I'd let both of them go because they were both asking for far more then they were worth but in terms of letting Schmidt walk, I think maybe they didn't have Zito intentions at the time and possibly decided that they wanted to grab him later.

I hope they give him 6/yrs 100mil and I hope he gets Tommy John surgery or just continues his decline.

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Originally Posted by Gohron

Maybe because Schmidt isn't th at good of a pitcher?

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Uh, wrong.

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Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba

The Mets have the money, I question whether Omar really believes Zito in the answer at this point. Perhaps he has a trade up his sleeve.

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The Mets don't really need Zito. John Maine, Glavine and Duque should hold down the rotation fine and Oliver Perez and Dave Williams could perhaps do pretty well for them (they reallly should move Heilman to the rotation too). Sure, Glavine is old and Duque is rumored to be in his mid-40's but I bet you they're both reliable this year. Even if the pitching has some problems, the Mets have an NL Top-3 offense to pick them up.

Who's in decline?

Zito?

Season 34 221.0 211 99 27 99 151 16 10 0 107.8 1.40 .257 3.83
Career 222 1430.1 1228 620 148 560 1096 102 63 0 106.3 1.25 .232 3.55

or

Schmidt?

Season 32 213.1 189 94 21 80 180 11 9 0 108.4 1.26 .238 3.59

neither seem to be doing all that bad to me.

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Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba

Uh, wrong.

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He's a number 3 who had a couple of good years when he came to the Giants.