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q: Final Fantasy XII
Guitar Hero II Demo Disc.
The correct answer is Bully.
why is PSU not on the list :(
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Originally Posted by Finch
Which means it won't hit until the first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamestop
Tales took the only shitty f-chan RPG spot.Quote:
Originally Posted by morphix
They have it in NYC Chinatown already (legit copy), albeit at $55. I know, not everyone lives in NYC.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
EDIT: What about Justice League Heroes? If MUA is listed, I feel that JLH should be listed as well, they seem similar enough.
More importantly, why the hell is Dark Messiah not on the list? That's a serious GOTY contender so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by morphix
EDIT: Screw it, I'm fixing it myself.
UMK3 on XBLA.
Double Agent. Double Agent.
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Warhammer 40K Dawn of War: Dark Crusade.
Expansion packs aren't games. kthx.
Between how awesome God Hand and Bully were, and how awesome Dark Messiah and Sam & Max most likely are, this is gonna be nearly impossible.
Isn't it a stand-alone too, though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
godhand bitches
MKA comes in second, for lolz value.
Contact!
I mean, Final Fantasy XII!!
FFXII is going to be the correct answer.
Splinter Cell. Both the single player and the multiplayer are fan-fucking-tastic. Especially the multiplayer.
BTN.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
It is indeed. Neither DoW nor the previous expansion are required to play either the single player campaign, single player skirmish, or online (with Tau and Necrons).Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomi
Maybe for November, but doubtful.Quote:
FFXII is going to be the correct answer.
It really will be, provided you have any interest in RPGs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlep
No contending it'll be great, but it'll be going up against stuff like Gears of War, Zelda: Twilight Princess, Resistance: Fall of Man, etc. November is a tough month.
Damn it, Schlep. You made the thread way too early (not giving anyone time to play what will likely be the biggest release of the month, FFXII), and you didn't even get the thread title right or link to the previous threads. The continuity is there for a reason.
Anyone opposed to closing this thread, in lieu of a proper one a few weeks into November?
Final Fantasy doesn't hit stores until November 1st, this has been covered already. If you want to link the old threads, do it...it doesn't matter to me.
Fuck Final Fantasy. Make this thread now and exclude it, then make November's say that it came out in October and exclude it. That trash doesn't need to be given an opportunity for dumb fucks to vote for it anyway.
Haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Anyway, fine, we'll just keep this one if you don't mind me editing your first post, Schlep. FFXII will be counted in the November thread.
What if I love RPGs but hated every FF since 5?Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
And FFXII is Nov 1.
As a complete package FFXII is the best JRPG I've ever played. I'm not done yet but I only have two real complaints and I think one of them will be rectified shortly. The other issue is that even though they do a great job of what they present it'd be better if the story wasn't so... safe. At least so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlep
IAWTP. And this is coming from someone who's got FFXII LE preordered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Putting FFXII in a game of the month poll is like putting a Squaresoft character in one of those GameFAQs polls. We know it'll win by default anyway; it's a moot point.
That's not saying much.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
It's like KOTOR with customizable AI and no dialogue choices. I really wouldn't say your dislike or enjoyment of previous games in the series has very much bearing here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Exactly as long as I thought that would take. Not one of the posters I was expecting it from, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
As for my choice, the only October release I've played so far is Contact, which isn't in the poll, so I'll have to wait on my vote. I think Sam & Max, Bully, Godhand, and Dark Messiah all have my interest, though. Good month.
Strong words. I'm looking forward to it, hopefully I'll be saying the same. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
Well it had to be said.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechDeus
JRPG's are like traditional survival horror games. They're great at telling stories and introducing awesome characters (actually that's mostly survival horror lol), but as far as actual gameplay goes almost every other genre has them beat. Picking things from menus for an entire game is lame.
You have to beat out VP2 for best JRPG, that says a lot?
There are specific aspects from other RPGs which I think are done better, but none as a whole. For instance, Xenogears has a better plot but the presentation falls apart late in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy
Although Basch does dress like a Mad Max clown which makes it hard to take him seriously at times.
RPGs in general tend to have this sort of problem. Diablo and Morrowind's combat is just as bland as the average turn based crap. They're just adventure games with D&D overtones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
Dark messiah might be the first RPG where the combat is really gratifying in and of itself.
I'm surprised and pleased that so many people other than myself voted God Hand. :tu:
I can't believe a shit game like God Hand has as many votes (/more votes) as such an awesome and polished game like Splinter Cell.
<3 TNL.
DA most likely has boring crazy linear single player that isn't very different than the prequels. Multiplayer's probably pretty cool, but going from Chaos Theory, nothing I'd buy the game for. I really can't give much of a shit about it.
God Hand is unlike anything else I've played, though, and it rocked my face off.
<3 TNL
I once bought the second Splinter Cell after I ran out of MGS games to play, and the most entertaining part was the fact that the game wouldn't let me grab/choke/whatever guards unless I approached them at exactly the right angle, even if I was technically behind them anyway. And then when they spotted me SUPER BADASS AGENT FISCHER couldn't do anything but run around like an idiot while said guard slowly took out his walkie-talkie and reported me to his boss, after which he'd start shooting at me even though the mission was already failed and the bullets magically passed right through me. Awesome!
So yeah, fuck Splinter Cell. I'll take a game that lets me kick people in the balls and then punch them a million times before sending them flying all the way across the entire screen over that shit any day.
Yeah, I've played through every Splinter Cell and the grabbing enemies has never been implemented like that. It has always been based on distance away from the enemy and you being located behind them, otherwise it doesn't matter what angle you approach them at, so you must have been smoking crack when you were playing it (or just awful at the game). Plus in the third one they added in a knife, so if they do manage to see you, you can stab them bitches in the gut to get them to quiet down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
Maybe I just wasn't far enough away then. Oh well.
I fail to see how a knife would help unless they eased the super strict mission objectives where you aren't allowed to kill anyone without failing the mission unless the game tells you to.
I guess I'm just more of an MGS type of guy.
It's based on how close you are to them, and not how far away. You have to get pretty close to someone to grab them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
Yeah, they did get rid of all that non sense (and thank god), plus the levels are far less linear then they have ever been, with branching paths, and multiple ways to complete each objective. Plus they added trust based objectives where based on the choices you make, your trust level with the NSA and the terrorist organization you go undercover with are effected by what objectives you do, and which ones you choose not to. Which in turn will effect the objectives you choose to do in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
The system they have now is actually very dynamic, and while the core gameplay is the same, gave the series a breath of fresh air.
So you're not a fan of stealth gameplay then? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadow Not Shade
Er, yeah, that's what I meant to say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brand X
While the radar makes it kind of hard to defend the first two games as true stealth games, you could be pretty stealthy in MGS3 (although it also gave you the option of just going Rambo on everyone). I don't even kill guards in that game anymore, I just sneak around CQC'ing the shit out of them. Then I leave their bodies laying around so their friends will come over to investigate, and I CQC the crap out of them too. It's good times.Quote:
So then you're not a fan of stealth gameplay then? ;)
First and last GOTM thread from Schlep.
Overlooking the most basic premise of GOTM, waiting until the month is over, makes sure of that.
Maybe I just haven't been paying enough attention, but the results of this poll surprises me. I heard mixed things about God Hand, and I didn't think the new Spliter Cell was breaking any new ground... I haven't played either yet, though.
Splinter Cell.
I was thinking the same thing. I was going to wait until God Hand was $10 before buying it but now I'm tempted to get it sooner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I haven't played enough games here to vote but it seems like an awesome month. Sam & Max is great; hopefully people here will buy it once the non-Gametap version is out. Bully interests me quite a bit. Dark Messiah looks to be the most appealing given Looking Glass/Ion Storm-inspired design.
Double Agent's the only game on the list I've played, and even then I've only played the first mission, so it gets my vote.
A default vote is faint praise but the game's actually pretty fucking sick. The first mission was reminiscent of Metal Gear Solid's opening sequence in a good way, and the graphics are of course ballshattering. This might be the first Splinter Cell I finish.
I want to give Bully a shot too, when I get the chance - PSU and Godhand also but Ill probably wait on those.
I'd vote KOF 2006, it really is superb. I haven't had a chance to play the new Splinter Cell multiplayer though...I'm sure it's awesome though and should win.
Seconded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
Which of you fucking Wapanese voted for the lame God Hand? The game certainly isn't shit, but its nowhere near as good as, well, any of the other games on the list except for PSU and Tales. Hell, The Warriors is nearly a year old and still beats God Hand in every possible way. And Bully uses a very similar brawling system. If Bully already has a fun brawling system AND tons of other fantastic gameplay, why would you even think of voting for a beat-em-up that does only one thing and doesn't do it very well?
Oh wait, its Clover. And they're Japanese. So it must be the best game this month.
Ding, ding ding. Winner. God Hand is decent, but if you voted for it, move to Japan. Ditto for PSU. Dunno about Tales. But it's probably not as good as SC.
Someone should draw a map for bVork and Joust Williams to pull their heads out of their asses.
How on earth could you vote for either of those games? PSU is utter shit in every conceivable way and God Hand has *decent* fighting wrapped around craptacular graphics.
UMK3.
I voted God Hand!
Certainly not my favorite game, but nothing else from October interests me.
Wow. And here I thought it was one of the best months for gaming in a good while.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
Just going down the list:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
- Splinter Cell -- Only Splinter Cell I've played completely is Pandora Tomorrow and it left a bad taste in my mouth. It is truly a miserable game (single player, at least).
- Marvel: Ultimate Alliance -- Blech, dungeon hack-n-slash.
- Mortal Kombat: Armageddon -- I played Deadly Alliance and Deception, both of which are pretty awful.
- Bully -- I haven't really liked anything from Rockstar ever :/
- God Hand -- A very budget game that shows it--but the combat's honestly good and satisfying.
- Tales of the Abyss -- :/ to RPGs
- Battlefield 2142 -- I really, really, really don't like playing games on PC. And this game honestly doesn't look that good anyway.
- Dark Messiah -- Your description of the game makes it sound interesting, but again I really hate gaming on PC.
- Phantasy Star Universe -- Possibly the last game I'd want to play on this list.
- Sam & Max -- Since it's on PC I'll never play it.
I meant moreso that, playing the same tired crap like Splinter Cell when a newer good game like God Hand that isn't a series based off a non-existant book with a name of an Author no one really likes, while I can see not being as good as Splinter Cell, you rant about anyone who liking it retarded (Moreso bVork, but you agreed with his sentiment) is what I mean by your head being up your ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
And yeah, PSU doesn't appeal at all.
"Dark Messiah wraps a dull story around repetitive combat. It's not a bad game, but its technical glitches really bring it down."
gamespots's summary of the game. Sure, its one review, but it doesnt sound promising.
You know, November won't be about FFXII. It's going to be all about Guitar Hero 2.
Comparing Music games to anything seems stupid, because they're well beyond the traditional game.
The dull story thing is true (though no more so than every other medieval fantasy RPG). I haven't seen the glitches, but I doubt they would make them up. But the repetitive combat thing is the biggest lie ever perpetrated in gaming journalism. The combat is really, really flexible and the AI is hoot to fight. It's less repetitive than any first person action game ever before it, let alone any RPG. It's a downright loony thing to claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler_Durden
In a given situation there's always like 20 ways to take an enemy out. You could throw a crate at a shelf support and knock it out to send barrels spilling down on him, you could sneak up behind him and stab him in the back. You could freeze him. You could throw an oil jar at him and shoot a flaming arrow to light him up, you could kick him down the stairs, you could use your bow and snipe him, you could throw a rock at his head and knock him into some spikes...
Yeah, real repetitive.
If by beyond you mean more enjoyable, then yes I agree with you. Also, it's a game just like the others. I have to pop it in the PS2 to enjoy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
1. It's the best beat 'em up ever made. The true successor to Final Fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater
2. You're not going to find it for $10. Capcom pressed like six copies.
I can only assume that people chosing other games over God Hand just haven't played God Hand, or don't like beat 'em ups in general. I'm almost at the final area, and not once has it felt boring or repetitive, and despite the high difficulty, it's very rarely frustrating. It does have a few flaws, but for what it gives, they're easy to overlook.
"playing the same tired crap like Splinter Cell when a newer good game like God Hand that isn't a series based off a non-existant book with a name of an Author no one really likes"
a) The game has nothing to do with TC other than it has its name on it. The funny thing is I was just thinking the other day how more people my age probably know of Clancy as that guy that's on video games rather than the author.
a2) God Hand's premise is a lot more forgettable than SC's. God Hand is VERY generic. Hell, the first level looks straight from an Outlaws user map done by a 7 year old.
b) Even if it did have something to do with him, that's irrelevant to how good a game is.
c) SC is very much unlike the other games in the series.
c2) It has a lot less in common with games of its ilk than God Hand does with beat-em-ups.
d) God Hand just isn't that good.
e) Markryan may have the worst taste in games ever. I mean the WORST. You know those people who snag a copy of True Crime at launch? Worse than that. People like him are the reason why Gran Turismo has stayed in the Dark Ages.
How did IGN give God Hand a 3/10 then? I hear so many polar opposite things I don't know what to believe.
From reading the review just now, I'd say a combination of just not "getting it" coupled with a bit of sneering elitism. The reviewer invokes the "F-chans" argument for example, being so bold as to say that nobody would have bothered with this game if it hadn't been developed by Clover. Lame.
God Hand isn't exactly flawless, but the minor problems it has are far outweighed by the enjoyment it delivers in my opinion. I don't normally play beat-em-ups, but I love the hell out of it. My cousin doesn't play them either, but I showed this to him last week and he picked up a copy for himself the very same day. It's a crazy Fist of the North Star parody wrapped around a rock-solid fighting engine. I'd recommend it to anyone.
It's IGN. That should explain everything.
That works too.
Remember kids, you can't spell "ignorant" without IGN!
Congrats, you played the worst SC game. Now go play something good like Chaos Theory. Or the original. Or the new one. Basically, anything but the crappy one. It's like playing MGS2 and then writing off the whole series. Except that even a shitfest like SC2 is better than MGS2.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
If by "pretty awful", you mean "dumb but fun," then I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
YOU FAILQuote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
Uhhh, what? So you're saying that Double Agent is better than God Hand but I should prefer God Hand because it isn't a franchise or licenced?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
And it is retarded. Its like they tried to do an 80s beat-em-up in 3D, down to the completely stiff control. Go play any of the better recent brawlers (I already mentioned The Warriors, but Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks is another good example) and don't waste your time on God Hand until it drops to the $10 price tag it deserves.
One last thing:
Truth. A decade-old game is the best release this month.Quote:
Originally Posted by K3V
In what the hell way is God Hand stiff? You set your own combos, and you can cancel in and out of attacks with evades. The Warriors is decent for a two player game, but it's like you're comparing Virtua Fighter to frickin' Plasma Sword here. Not even remotely on the same level.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
Dude, IGN. Even Gamespot gave GH a good score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
yeah, fuck you.Quote:
Which of you fucking Wapanese voted for the lame God Hand? The game certainly isn't shit, but its nowhere near as good as, well, any of the other games on the list except for PSU and Tales. Hell, The Warriors is nearly a year old and still beats God Hand in every possible way. And Bully uses a very similar brawling system. If Bully already has a fun brawling system AND tons of other fantastic gameplay, why would you even think of voting for a beat-em-up that does only one thing and doesn't do it very well?
Oh wait, its Clover. And they're Japanese. So it must be the best game this month.
Clover, Japanese, whatever. God Hand gave me no control problems after the first minute, and as much as I like The Warriors, you'd have to be out of your mind to claim it (or Bully) has better combat. I actually had to mind what I was doing in GH.
And how the hell is GH similar to old beat 'em ups at all? Did I miss the dodging and targeting in Streets of Rage?
This is what I've heard. I'm vaguely interested in trying out Chaos Theory. It looks a bit less generic than the latest.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
Well MGS2 is the best of the Metal Gears...Quote:
It's like playing MGS2 and then writing off the whole series.
BZZZZZZRRRRRRT! Way off on that one, dude.Quote:
Except that even a shitfest like SC2 is better than MGS2.
Dead or Alive is dumb but fun. The 3D MK games are pure awful.Quote:
If by "pretty awful", you mean "dumb but fun," then I agree.
:tu:Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
The MK games are pretty dumb but fun when you have other people to play them against, in my experience. Although the drugs might have had something to do with that, now that I think about it.Quote:
Dead or Alive is dumb but fun. The 3D MK games are pure awful.
Tank controls were great... in 1983, when they were the only conceivable way of translating Battlezone to 2600.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ammadeau
You apparently missed the bland, generic levels and constantly repeated enemies in God Hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tain
I can only assume you played the game for a minute and your right stick is broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
IBTMFNQuote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Tank controls are a 2 stick setup, like arcade battlezone. Or Katamari Damacy (sorta). The word you're looking for is "character-relative controls."Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
A month slightly better than a lot of really bad months =/= a good monthQuote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
A month where there's more games that I want to check out than I have time to play=good month. The fact that I'm not playing the latest entry in my favorite RPG series (Tales of the Abyss) right now should speak volumes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
Exactly, music games once established are hard to mess up, it's guarenteed to be amazing and nothing will be able to compete ;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
No I'm just saying regardless of what you enjoy, you come off as a complete douchebag when yhou think that people who share a different opinion about a game that may fit their pallet more than your crap need to move to Japan is just a retarded comment. I'm moreso attacking your judgement that you can only be a japanese lover to like the game, that you're a prick. Same with Joust, it's just, we all knew Joust was a prick.Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
Splinter Cell FTW! Sure there are some other great games on the list, but I am not as big a fighter or RPG fan as I used to be. Splinter Cell offers the best of both worlds with an awsome single player story (ok its no insert amazing book or movie but it isn't awful) that offers some incredible gameplay, and the online multiplayer is some of the most fun I've had on Live since GRAW.
BTW, I'm pretty sure that FFXII will be in stores on the 31st, at least thats what my manager keeps telling me.
And The Warriors is apparently full of variety.Quote:
You apparently missed the bland, generic levels and constantly repeated enemies in God Hand.
): I'm still caught up in Okami from last month, and Jesus help me if i couldn't last until at least March on this month alone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I said what I meant and meant what I said. That's why I specifically mentioned 2600 Battlezone and not the arcade one. I used the word "tank" because it has the additional connotation of being slow, unwieldy, and ponderous. Tank controls sucked in Alone in the Dark, they sucked in Resident Evil, and they suck in God Hand. Katamari Damacy's control kinda sucks too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I know what you meant, but it's a bad term that's frequently misapplied. I didn't mean to imply that you made it up or anything. It's just not as accurate as saying "Character-relative controls" (as opposed to screen-relative)Quote:
Originally Posted by bVork
And I rarely ever hear the term applied to first person games like 2600 Battlezone, or Doom 1 and 2. I think it stems from Combat, actually, which was top-down, but you still moved side to side to rotate and up to move forward.
You're right. That term IS better, especially when you contrast it to "screen-relative." I also agree that Combat is probably the original game to which the term was applied.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I still don't like the control scheme, though. Differentiating between character and screen relative is meaningless when the camera is always at a fixed point relative to the character.
That sig is AWESOME, but really fucking huge.
I voted for God Hand, because its the best game I have played all year.
You need to play at least two games this year to be able to vote, IMO.
Shut up Joust. You didn't play any.
He played Splinter Cell: The Zelda of Stealth games.
No, because no game series does stealth better these days. Zelda has been surpassed by tons of games.
Wait, you didn't play Splinter Cell: The Zelda of Stealth, or you did? I read it's supposed to be the second best one, after Splinter Cell: The Final Fantasy of Stealth.