The Worst Congress Ever

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Originally Posted by Calliander

Isn't there something somewhere in one of our bills that lets us just fire all of the Legislative and Executive branches? Like, "GTFO, assholes, now. No, you can't run again ever for any office."

That would be awesome.

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Uh, no, in theory the three party system is an excellent ruling authority. Until those pesky humans get involved.

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Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba

On the other hand, I'm not sure if the Dem's had power that this would improve, and it fact, it may get worse if you allow the labor unions more clout.

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Worse how? I fail to see how labor clout is any more nefarious than corporate clout. In fact, part of the article's point (and this isn't just pointed out here) is that corporate interests have a stranglehold on both parties. The power of the labor movement has dwindled to next to nothing, which is truly a shame.

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Originally Posted by Calliander

Isn't there something somewhere in one of our bills that lets us just fire all of the Legislative and Executive branches? Like, "GTFO, assholes, now. No, you can't run again ever for any office."

That would be awesome.

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Nope, nothing like that. We can't recall politicians on the federal level, but I agree that we should be able to.

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Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba

Uh, no, in theory the three party system is an excellent ruling authority. Until those pesky humans get involved.

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Three party? Uh, what? I assume you mean the three branches of government and the separation of powers. If so, I would say that introducing human nature does not shatter it upon contact (that's communism), rather that it is because of human nature that this diffuse take on dispensing governmental power is best.

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Originally Posted by Biff_Pocoroba

On one hand, I'm not shocked, this is status-quo for congress, bunch of smucks of whom about 1/2 can't even get a credit card.

On the other hand, I'm not sure if the Dem's had power that this would improve, and it fact, it may get worse if you allow the labor unions more clout.

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Lol yeah right. Labor unions never had the amount of power politicians do. Ever since the merger of the AFL and the CIO, a shitton of them have been going to shit. UMW may as well not even exist at this point because they have been dwindled down to under 10% in West Virginia, a state where its main moneymaker is coal. And all that coal is controlled by one man who is now backing up republicans to win offices and bust down unions even further.

Face it, businesses have politics in a chokehold. I laugh at anyone who thinks otherwise. The president won't be able to make a country like North Korea stop making WMDs, but wait until an oil company says they're going to cut them off and see how fast they stop nuclear testing.

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

power doesn't corrupt. Stupidity does.

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You're not corrupt, buttchecks <3

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Originally Posted by AstroBlue

You're not corrupt, buttchecks <3

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Confirmed, Buttcheeks is the most honorable man I have ever had the pleasure of reading. His thoughts and theories are some of the most simplistic, yet accurate observations I have ever seen.

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Originally Posted by Mman

No, its not that at all. (In fact this article names like 4 democrats as the worst senators if I recall). I'm not saying the article is not correct (the congress is in fact much more corrupt now then it was 10 years ago). But it is an entertainment magazine, and as such don't expect accurate direct political commentary. This article had its amusing parts, but really took itself to seriously to be actually interesting and indulged too much to be able to consider it as an in depth commentary.

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heres the thing though, fox does occasionally contain facts as well, its just that they put such a heavy spin on them that they are not a reliable source of news. same thing for rolling stone, i have no doubt that they check their facts so that they dont get called out in an outright untruth, but they nuance their words so much that there is no question that republicans are the bad guys. this is often true, but rolling stone is not a reliable source to say when it is or isnt.

I also take issue with your comment that entertainment mags cant have accurate direct political commentary, they cna, hell, there have been times when rolling stone toned it down a little that they had informative articles, same with playboy, same with GQ. all "enterainment" mags, but all have had good political content at times. hell, we are ostensibly on a video game board, but we have had some very informative political discussion when people keep their ego's in check. So i really dispute wether an entertainment medium can direct and accurate information.

I said don't expect, not that it isn't possible. In fact, Rolling Stone has been the home of some amazing well written and interesting political and social articles.

edit: and this would be the chief difference between Rolling Stone and Fox News (expectation and the role a rock and roll magazine plays versus a cable news channel).

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Originally Posted by buttcheeks

can you name anyone that is very intelligent and sane that was corrupted by power? ( I don't buy that Canada's two previous groups were intelligent.)

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I don't blame you for not thinking Canada's two previous governments were intelligent, but I mispoke, I actually meant Canada's last two long term governments, the Chretien Liberals and the Mulroney PCs, which both left office under a cloud of scandal and controversy after ruling for multiple terms. For Mulroney it was the Airbus affair, while Chretien had fingers in the cookie jar with Ad-Scam, which all but sealed the fate of the Liberals in the most recent election. Both governments were seen to become mired in scandals in their later years, just like Tony Blair's Labour goverment and the Republicans Democrats in congress.

Biggest example I can find is very recent. Randy Cunningham, former congressman, former Vietnam war hero. Cunningham resigned from the House on November 28, 2005 after pleading guilty to accepting at least $2.4 million in bribes and underreporting his income for 2004. He pleaded guilty to federal charges of conspiracy to commit bribery, mail fraud, wire fraud, and tax evasion. On March 3, 2006, he received a sentence of eight years and four months in prison and an order to pay $1.8 million in restitution.

Now, was he super intelligent? No. But they don't let retards fly fighter planes. Was he sane? You may have to be a bit crazy to land on carriers but I don't think he qualified as insane, the Navy sics shrinks on you when you start flying for them. He got into power and let himself become corrupted.

gozen is the most boring, blathering motherfucker on TNL. And keep in mind this is a place that hosts Jeremy reviews.

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Originally Posted by Error

Now, was he super intelligent? No. But they don't let retards fly fighter planes. Was he sane? You may have to be a bit crazy to land on carriers but I don't think he qualified as insane, the Navy sics shrinks on you when you start flying for them. He got into power and let himself become corrupted.

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I think you are reading to much into his previous career. People of all kinds fight in wars. As for being crazy, uh, you are aware that military men hide all sorts of heath problems, right?