For killing, we hereby kill you.
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For killing, we hereby kill you.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/6117910.stm
The big hand is on 11:59, and the little hand is on the November elections.
Was there doubt in anyone's mind that he was going to be sentenced to death? It was a show trial from the beginning, Saddam constantly made it into a circus, and now finally they're going to do what they had been planning to do since he was pulled out of that dirt hole.
Will it be televised?
Iraq's government cares about our elections? Awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by portnoyd
Of course it does, its just a puppet government right now anyway. All this talk about the new Iraqi PM flexing his muscle to show how independant of the US he is is just a front.
And I get accused of overtstaing the importance of the US. Jesus Christ. Everything that happens all over the world is not due to us.
I think he was taking the angle that the timing of the sentence mysteriously coincides with elections being held here 48 hours later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
It's not implausible, but it is improbable.
Only if we can't help it. :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
But this is good timing.. Something to take peoples' minds off all the hypocritical shit that's been going on lately.
This trial was more to remind Saddam and the world of the things he did rather than to decide his sentence. Everyone knew how this would end.
Uh, maybe not, but when the guy we ousted and captured is being executed by the government we propped up (barely) then yes I can imagine they have some vested interest in our continued involvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I think all the points have already been made here. Nobody was sitting around biting their nails wondering what was going to happen to Saddam. Although Hussein's hilarious antics in the courtroom made me like him a bit more -- like someone I'd enjoy a culturally awkward moment with at the pub over a pint.
Also, Mikey, I take it from your initial post in this bleeding example of a thread that you hate the death penalty? Why?
don king had better get this shit on ppv.Quote:
Originally Posted by dakidski
It's revenge, not justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Dude, they're not gonna' listen to you. I've tried it before.
Death by hanging huh? Are the judges and executioners gonna ride off into the sunset after it's done?
maybe they will play bonanza
No, revenge would be hanging him and 100,000 of his closest friends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Of course, I'd expect anyone who'd use the BBC link to be a bleeding heart pussy.
If only we could:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
http://www.lucatelese.it/images/diar...eld_saddam.jpg
Well played, I must admit.
This has the potential to be a reeeeal tricky political event. Remember- there is a significant number of people (here and abroad) who think Saddam was a misunderstood, yet benevolent leader.
I hope I never meet one of those people here, but I don't doubt your claim.
Just go to any college campus- they are everywhere.
I hear there are tons of strawmen there too.
Ah, generalizing vitriol, how I missed thee.
Remember: There are people (here and abroad) who believe there are monsters under their bed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerodash
Ha HA, grammar mistakeQuote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
What are you talking about? Stop trolling.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
Where's the mistake? I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but in this case?Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
The shame of being corrected on grammar by buttcheeks has led a mod to use his powers to change the past? Indeed.
Even though your reasoning here is incredibly naive and flawed I'm going to pretend you're right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
There's still the fact that human beings, most of them anyway, learn by example. I don't like to use school bully's as an example because I'm not trying to interject my political thoughts in to this but it's like that. When you're a bully and someone does something you don't like and you punch them in the stomach you create a line. Now the other kids know that if they do it they'll be punched in the stomach and it deters them from it. It's the same way with policing.
If you want to stop killing you have to make sure people know that it atleast won't end well for you if nothing else. It won't stop people from being crazy and it won't stop dictators just like policing doesn't stop crime at all, but it atleast it sends a firm stance on it.
There's a lot of business aspects that make sense in the long term for execution as well but I'm not going to go in to it because it's been a long time since I've read anything about it.
This has nothing to do with grammar, but dynamite signature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
I caught it too. Sorry Tracer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Compass
The death penalty does not deter crime. Try again.
(note I am not anti-death penalty)
I didn't say it deterred crime. For a second there I thought I was actually going to have to try again.
Um, your entire argument was that the death penalty is there to scare people away from committing crimes. You actually used the word "deters" in your example.
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Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
I must have used some form of trickery on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
The bully analogy really had nothing to do with your point, then.
The only point it had was to show that you have to make some kind of threshold and stick to it. You can't stop people from doing what they want if they want it strong enough. You can only punish them for it and hope for the best. I think hanging someone for genocide is a good stance to take.
I probably should have used a teacher in that analogy though, a bully is more of a vigilante terrorist, but I'm going to stick with it and go down with the ship.
He killed a lot of people, ergo he deserve's death I would shoot him in the head, bullets are less expensive than gallows and ropes.
Kill him, move on.
He's like 110 anyway.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
It's looks like an agreement, TNL gives the thumbs down.
Execute him.
there, not theirQuote:
Originally Posted by Tracer
but I'm just josh'n you
I somehow doubt, when it comes down to the final seconds, that Hussein will still be smiling.
Killing someone as retribution for killing one or one-thousand people is not justice.
Maybe it's a good thing. Who knows what death is? It's the great mystery of life. For all we know he could be in heaven with 40 fair skinned virgins on each arm or reincarnated as a flamingo in the amazon, or helping the crazy four armed Vishnu manage the universe. If you look at it this way it's kind of like a happy vacation.
I'm going to ignore the rest of your post because it's stupid. No, it's not a good thing. I'm tempted to add that it's not even good when it happens naturally, but I'm still not certain about that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
are you on fucking drugs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
what kind of argument is that?
If anyone's reasoning is flawed or naive around here, it is yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Wow. You showed him. :rolleyes:
From someone else?Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
LOL, do I really even need to address his ridiculous argument of "Well, hey, maybe there is an afterlife and we're doing him a favor?". No, I don't think I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
I don't know what you're implying. There's nothing vitriolic about being right.Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
I'm thinking about leaving TNL after that crack example of tongue lashing.Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Meach
Thanks, Socrates.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
I can honestly say I am surprised by t....pffft ok I couldn't type that with a straight face.
Just stop posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
I just assumed he was joking.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/a...1&d=1162829701Quote:
Originally Posted by dakidski
Psst Andrew...stop posting the christians want to keep thinking hes going to hell.
Saddam: "Killian, I'll be back."Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Killian: "Only in a rerun."
That pic would be so much better with Bush's head on Dawson's body.
we all knew saddam would get the death sentence. he committed genocide. and he's getting off easy by being hanged. tyrants in the past have gotten to be quartered, flailed, stoned...
the US is not taking revenge. revenge would be the people saddam wronged killing him in a way they saw fit... do you think he'd get off with a quick and easy death?
Welcome to the majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
Does it make you angry that I've referenced other cultures beliefs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
This isn't very realistic. He'd probably want goggles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
I can't refute this. But then again he can't refute any of the stuff I mentioned either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Genki
No, it's just painful watching you think you are funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
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Originally Posted by Stone 2003
That was a post from the Victory thread back in 2003. I agree with what I say here - the comment about other dictators presages Libya, right? Actually, going back through the thread, I agree with virtually everything I said across the 26 pages. The ideas were sound. I was an asshole because I was trying to be funny (and because Almaci was a fucking idiot, look it up).
I still think that intervention works, I believe that Arabs deserve democracy, I believe that a democracy in the Middle East will mean big tings for that part of the world, and I believe that the US had the capability to help that transition.
What I underestimated was this: how much of a gigantically useless fucking cunt Bush is.
He delivered a lot of compelling speeches over his first term, speeches that delivered real ideas about democracy and foreign policy, and I thought he believed in some of it, or that at least his administration was controlled by people who believed those things. He didn't understand the ideas, and his administration wasn't controlled by anyone competent (if only they'd had some sort of mystical cabal of powerful Strauss-reading Jews...). What was the result?
The result was three years of us fucking up virtually everything that could be fucked up. Collapsing the Iraqi army. The looting (was I wrong about that one, hah). The civil rights violations. Ignoring the idea of federalizing the country. The idiot evangelicals we let into the country in the first year. The tortue, god, the fucking torture. Doing nothing to support the Lebanese government after the Cedar Revolution, which either put the lie to all of the democracy talk or was incompetent at some unplumbable depth. Letting our failure to support the Lebanese government lead to a strengthened Hezbollah. A strengthened Hezbollah turning into a tool used by Iran to fight a proxy war against Israel. Israel going into Lebanon, and us doing or saying nothing to Israel as Israel proceeded to fuck themselves and us over the course of a few weeks.
By the way, I didn't just hop off the short bus or anything (I voted for Kerry in 2004).
I think that if someone like Wolfowitz had actually had any real sway in the administration, things would be very different. This war was not a war for oil, and there are few similarities between its intent and Vietnam's. I still think the basic ideas are sound, and I think that this type of intervention has a noble history (that's been sullied immeasurably, I agree that the whole idea of intervening is going to have to go back into the vault for about 50 years). I think the motives for many of the large players that protested the war - France, China, the left's - were either misguided or far less than pure.
It's, of course, easy to to say right direction, wrong horse, and a lot of fucking good that does us with tens upon tens of thousands of people dead.
Whoa. Does this mean we can move you into the leftmost column on the Wiki now?
Stone is back!
Nice to see you man. :)
I'm confused.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stone
p.s. Welcome back.
No, it's justice and punishment. If this is revenge then we are getting ripped off; I want to see him drawn and quartered by really slow horses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Stone: what do you think about the Lamont-Lieberman race? Personally I despise Lamont, he's a duplicitous asshole.
st000000000000ne
You're a fine Christian example. That wasn't a joke so don't worry about it being funny or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master of 7s
EYEHATEGOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew
Why did you post that shitty band's myspace page?Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
Damn, Sleeve coming out of the woodwork too Sl33333333333333333333333333333333333333v3Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeve
What he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
I warned ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stone
As for the rest of the shit that comes out of your mouth:
I am STILL hung like a horse and damn I look good with my huge schlong while enjoying being VINDICATED.
How long before you gona start threatening me again like you did when I urged for restraint and asked for confirmation those dozen or so times you posted ALMACI OWNZORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD WMD FOUND?
Yes, I missed him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
What the hell?
So Stone to this day still agrees with the following things from this thread: http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...ht=the+Victory
The following are all stone quotes:
1.) The market is way smarter than you.
2.) If the war was going to help Halliburton, then Halliburton's stock would go up.
3.) The stock isn't going up.
4.) The war isn't going to help Halliburton.
Can we even argue about that?
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You, Almaci, are the worst, most ignorant person I've ever met on a messageboard.
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Oh, and no chemical weapons, you say? Where are Iraq's weapons of mass destruction? Saddam was disarming?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81935,00.html
Fuck all of you morons who doubted that Iraq had them - go ahead and call this more propaganda if you'd like, I don't give a shit.
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My reply: I truly hope that this turns out to be another case of SCUD envy and that this also soon will be disproven.
After al if it turns out to be fake the likelyhood of such weapons being used on civilians and millitary decreases exponantially.
Stone again: Heh, yeah, that's why you hope that the report is fake. You sicken me.
Just turned on MSNBC, and Forrest Sawyer said something like "I caution you all very severely, but this might be the news Bush has been waiting for. The coalition has found a building that may be producing chemicals of some sort. What sort, we don't know." And, shit, it's like he can't bear to even think of Saddam having chemical weapons - I understand the need to be careful, but this is ridiculous.
What's the likelihood of a non-military chemical factory having an Iraqi general in charge and sand-colored camoflauge facing on the outsides of the building?
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How would this apply? Missiles were fired and shot down by patriots... Early reports said they were SCUDs, others said they were al-samuds or FROGS (whatever).. There was an issue with the TYPE of missile that was used, not the fact that they were fired and shot down (the TYPE of missile was disproven, NOT the whole story, geez)... In this case, the missiles NOT being SCUDs (cause you saw reports stating they weren't) was so important to you that you had to harass Jimmy about it, as well as aggravate others - myself included...
Again, this wasn't propoganda, guys on the ground made a mistake or jumped the gun on the TYPE of missile which was used... The Pentagon cleared it up, so end of story - all "confirmations" on the TYPE of missile now seem to match... Btw, I heard on NPR today that it the was British that reported 30 oil well fires early on, which you used in your reasoning to claim the US media is just full of propoganda... The count was lowered to 5, now it's reportedly 10 fires... I just don't get why you couldn't have waited a little while longer on it, and why it was sooo important that the type of missile NOT be a SCUD. How it took higher priority in your mind regarding the TYPE of missile it was, while people are getting killed on both sides I find so odd...
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These were just a few quotes from the FIRST TO PAGES.
Check the thread itself to see what a complete and total fucktard he was and apparently still is since he still believes the shit he typed back then to be correct.
Nobody cares man. Life's too short to hold on to a grudge this long.
Good game.
gg guys. GG.
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Originally Posted by Andrew
Stone apparently does since he felt the need to come back and anounce how utterly right he was about everything bar Bush.
Anyway you slice it having someone have so much influence on the way you post and behave is weird.
And to set you straight, I have no political agenda whatsoever. I'm Canadian. We have, like, a 60 party system running up here. Like a circus. Only without all of the pedophile clowns.
Everything he said was correct, he just didn't predict that Bush would fuck up the rebuilding process so utterly and completely. Also, you're still a waste of human life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
And im STILL hung lke a horse :lol: :lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9...ectlypovg2.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
:lol: :lol: that horse has a 'gina...like Almaci :lol: :lol:
I should refrase that.
I am not hung like a horse, horses are hung like me.
Yay! Almaci vs. Stone!
It's like 2004 again!
Don't worry stones a real man he knows he doesnt have to answer to Almaci's stupid grudge. I'm sure he'll take the highroad.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
ali is doc holliday?
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Originally Posted by Genki
Thehigh road?
You mean like saying he would punch me if he ever met me and those times he said FUCK YOU when I urged restrained over taken unconfirmed reports as fact and stuff.
You mean that high road?
Fuck. I thought I smelled something.
Shut up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Almaci's going to put me out of business if he keeps ruining threads before I get to them.
:lol: :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Don't even try to pretend you're anywhere near Chuck Norris' level.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
Urm dude, I proved BEYOND A SHADOW OF A DOUBT that I am hung like a horse in one of the Iraq threads.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
So, in other words, you made a complete ass out of yourself by going as far off-topic as possible? Yeah, congratulations.
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...g+like+a+horse
07-20-2003, 03:46 PM
Almaci
Sausage-in-training Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 1,659
Please tell me you people arent stupid enough to believe this
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http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.j...ryID=311849 0
In an attempt to prove President Bush was not misleading Americans about reasons for the Iraq war, the White House on Friday released declassified intelligence that said there was "compelling evidence" Iraq sought uranium for nuclear weapons.
IC so instead of providing COMPELLING EVIDENCE the Bush administration provides a piece of paper wich states that there is COMPELLING EVIDENCE.
Hey I can do that.
I have COMPELLING EVIDENCE that im hung like a horse, I wont drop my trousers to prove it tough but ive written it down on this piece of paper here, thats good enough right?
I mean its written down on a piece of paper, thats all the proof one should ever have to provide right?