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You're really twisting this around to go out of your way to protect the cops, but keep in mind you're coming in with as much a slanted view toward the kid "Well I think if he was able to scream he was obviously able to take on two cops single handedly" so don't try to act like you've got the enlightened opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
As far as I tell he wasn't screaming until AFTER he was shocked. In which case I think being that angry was entirely warranted. Also having the ability to yell and the ability to stand up are entirely different things. Being electrocuted, depending on the power, can have a very debilitating but localized effect. If they shocked his body it is very much possible that it would be very difficult for him to get up while his ability to talk and scream is not effected in the least.
He was screaming at the top of his fucking lungs, everytime I scream like when it's directed at another person I'm pretty tempted to at least badly hurt them, if not kill them. The cops could've dragged him out, he may have started something (as he seemed to have a big problem with them trying to drag him out in the first place) and then he would've got assault charges and he would've went to jail, potentially for a long time. Instead, they tased him, they got him out of the building and he went home.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
He was screaming at the cops before being tased when they "touched" him. So they did try to remove him before tasing him. He should've just done what he was told, instead he decided he wanted to be a college campus martyr, which I bet you a lot of this was about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
What about subsequent shocks then? If the first one was, according to you, justified by the way he acted what about the others after that. The first one was to stop him "from starting something" but the ones after that appear to be attempts at coercion, as in "do what I say or I will hurt you." I don't think police are supposed to use force like that, in any situation, let alone such a mild one as this.
I think the only reason they tazed him was because there was a crowd forming seeing the cops act like assholes and they wanted to send a message to all the others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Nitpick: electrocuted = death caused from electricity. Electric shock is the word we're searching for here.
Also, the kid might have been an asshole, but a lot of you fuckers on here better hope that isn't grounds for tasering, if you catch my drift...
Seriously, Google Video search it. Here, I'll help. One kid has his friends tase him in his living room. This guy is laughing after being tased. This cop gets up and cheers afterwards. The shock they gave the UCLA kid was weaker than the taser shots in these videos, if I understand correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
From what I read in that ACLU article linked to earlier in this thread, it's pretty liberal--they're encouraged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mman
Send a message to all of the other... quiet library students? I could understand it if it was in an uncontrolled or angry 'mob' situation, but it was a group of kids asking for the badge numbers of the officers. None of them even moved forward to help the kid or pull a cop back or something. They didn't need to send any 'message'.Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
This is becoming another boring proxy of the same old same old "liberals vs conservative" stuff.
Yawn.