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Originally Posted by buttcheeks
A nazi doesnt see being a nazi as a bad thing, a religious zealot doesnt see him/herself as being a zealot and people who are not religious zealots or nazi´s thus will take it as a joke because they know they are not such a person.
Its fucking easy to shrug it off and see it for a joke.
A person of colour however lives with that history of slavery and knows that they got lynched for nothing more then being black so it hits far closer home ALL THE FUCKING TIME, EVERY FUCKING SECOND FOR AS LONG AS THEY LIVE.
If YOU are too stupid to see a difference there I feel pity for you.
any minority member could feel the same way. A black person knows they are not a N&)#r and they know they will never be a slave again. They could just as easily shrug it off as a joke. The concept of slavery is just as real to them as being a racist slave owner would be to a southern white person. Neither of them have actually experienced either, but it is part of their cultural past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
As for how real nazi's or religious zealots feel, that doesn't really matter. People rarely call real Nazis, Nazis. When it is used as an insult, it is used against someone that isn't really a nazi to demonize and belittle them.
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Originally Posted by Punky Skunk
yes, and I'm sure whatever garbage you have on your stero right now sounds good as you listen to it.
I'm Jewish. My people went through some rough shit last century as you might recall. I don't get bent out of shape about Jew jokes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Almaci
No one in that club knew any slaves, and no one in their family got lynched. This is a silly rationale. It has nothing to do with that.
I think AstroBlue was more on the mark in pointing out that it's the lack of meaning and connotation that make the word hurtful. It's the fact that it is such and insult, yet all it means is black, therefore making blackness an insult that gives it its sting.
But I think making a racist joke on stage in a comedy club is no worse than Borat talking about Jews in a movie.
I heard slavery is coming back... in pogform
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/6...clemaleje2.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
So if he'd gone up there and done a routine where he denied the Holocaust in no uncertain terms and nothing remotely comedic, that wouldn't offend you either? Even then, if you wouldn't, could you atleast understand others being offended and outraged?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Firstly, you don't know if anyone in their families was lynched or not. Secondly, it doesn't matter. Richards was identifying them as a people who not only were lynched, but should be again. There's nothing silly about it, only hurtful and racist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
This shows a definite lack of understanding on your part. That word has a lot deeper meaning behind it than just black, even if some in the black community act like it doesn't. It harkens back to a time when black people were less than human to the dominate culture in the United States, and every time it's used, especially when used to intentionally demean someone of color it is an insult.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Except one is clearly a joke, and the other is not a joke at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Richards should have just claimed he was being cutting edge and that in a few years everyone would be doing racist routines like that.