Kaneda, that link mentions nothing of a multi-regional release.
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Kaneda, that link mentions nothing of a multi-regional release.
Yea they don't mention if that means outside of Japan, but people were saying they heard Treasure saying this and that about SnP so I thought I'd post what they actually said about it. I don't own a Wii and already have SnP so I couldn't give a shit.
The guy conducting the interview works for an American gaming website. Either way it doesn't mean shit but it's still a better argument than "Nintendo hates us and money." If an English ROM isn't already available, it would take two guys a day to translate the menus into English because the rest of the game is in English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Here's what I think: Out of territory games probably aren't being released here because many of them were never rated and Nintendo doesn't want to bother or risk crossing the ESRB.
I don't remember how violent S&P was, or if it had any questionable content (which I doubt), but Burg brings up an excellent point. Nintendo might not want to go through the ratings game for its back catalogue, and this simple and stupid detail could keep a lot of good games from coming to the VC.
Remember, Sega left Streets of Rage off the Sega Genesis Collection in order to maintain a teen rating. How Golden Axe could be considered less violent is beyond me, but the ESRB fear was enough to keep three of the most popular Genesis titles of all time from being re-released (they were also left off the domestic Sonic collection, but were added in Japan). I can imagine what it would mean for a domestic S&P one.
It's probably a good assumption of that VC list that the guy from Treasure mentions Nintendo having it on was probably a list sent out by NoJ, listing the games it plans to release on VC.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaneda
NoA never said they planned to release it here, ever.
The ESRB didn't exist during the NES or early 16-bit days, so that argument doesn't hold water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
That doesn't matter. If it's released now, it has to be rated. Why do you think all the 20 year-old retro collections you see have ratings?
The ESRB (or even the VRC) didn't exist in 1991, yet ratings were enough to keep Streets of Rage from being re-released twice in the U.S last year. How this applies to the VC remains to be seen, as I don't know if any of the games you download have a visible rating of some kind; however, anything sold today at retail does, regardless of when it was originally released.
EDIT- Apparantly, not only do the VC games have ratings, but they have to be submitted to the ESRB before they can go up for download.
From IGN:
Here's the official ESRB list of all the Wii games rated, including TG-16 and NES games.Quote:
November 7, 2006 - The Entertainment Software Ratings Board's official website has approved, rated and consequently listed eight more titles that will be showing up on a Wii Virtual Console near you in the not-too-distant future. The games are naturally all classics and from very recognizable franchises. In the interest in saving you time, we've listed the titles and their ratings below:Nintendo itself has not officially announced these games for the Wii's Virtual Console, but the ESRB is a reliable source because the Big N has to submit its games to the Board for approval in advance. In other words, the ESRB got this list from Nintendo of America.
- Duck Hunt (E for Everyone)
- Hogan's Alley (E for Everyone)
- Kid Icarus (E for Everyone)
- Kirby's Adventure (E for Everyone)
- Pilot Wings (E for Everyone)
- Pro Wrestling (E for Everyone)
- Punch-Out (E for Everyone)
- Wild Gunman (E for Everyone)
NOA executives continue to state that approximately 30 Virtual Console games will be available between the Wii's launch in November and the end of December. Another 10 titles will be released every month beginning in January.
It's quite possible that games previously released here can be tagged NR but stuff that is coming out here for the first time (or altered) can't be. Or that for whatever reason Nintendo doesn't want to do that. I think it's a silly justification but it's possible nonetheless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
How does Live Arcade handle ratings?
Edit - Melf just undermined my argument. Doesn't look like ratings are the reason overseas stuff isn't making it so I'll go back to "Nintendo hates us and money."
Also, how do third parties and Nintendo interact when it comes to VC content? If Treasure translates and cleans up S&P and hands it to NoA, it's gonna go "Didn't come out here nope nope nope?" Can anyone explain why?
I don't think they would do that. I'm sure if treasure handed them S&P in VC rom form and said we did everything that was needed to translate this completely into english (IE change the few menus in the game, which I could have sworn was already done before they changed their mind at the last second to not release it here) and it's ready to be put on VC. Nintendo would say thank you for giving us another easy way to make money. I highly doubt they're going to turn away something like that. Simply because it's less work that they have to do and more money to be made.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
here's a dumb question.
Has Nintendo mentioned anything about how Expansion pak support will be handled?
Like for the games that had the option of using it, you usually got better graphics, but fewer frames per second. Are you going to be able to chose which version you want to play or can their emulator give the best of both worlds?