Implementing basic online play = mapping controller 2's input to an IP address. Nintendo could easily add garbage online play to every game they have, they just don't like making people happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
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Implementing basic online play = mapping controller 2's input to an IP address. Nintendo could easily add garbage online play to every game they have, they just don't like making people happy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Adding garbage netplay would not make very many people happy, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stibbons
Also el oh el at the method you describe. That would desynch in less than a second.
That's why I called it garbage, obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dipstick
Mario Kart 64 online would be astronomically popular and just plain fucking great. Nintendo could hire a random Internet kid and pay him $500 to do one day of work getting basic netcode running in their emulators and they'd never have to touch their netcode again. They just don't feel like it because it's nice to look at high numbers when they look into their bank account while their PR parade of fanboys justify every misstep and bone-headed move they make.
"Adding garbage netplay would not make very many people happy, I think."
Why not? They added garbage netplay to Mario Kart DS and all the Nintendouches ate it up then.
Who are the nintendouches?
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Originally Posted by Perfect timing
Mario Kart DS online is pure trash in every way.
no
Nintendo will implement online support for VC games when VC games stop selling so well. Unfortunately that might take a while because everyone keeps bitching about the VC then spending money on it anyway.
Are they really selling that well? You keep saying that but it seems like entirely heresay.
Maybe they are or maybe they aren't. Does anyone have any actual sales numbers, and maybe Xbox Live Arcade sales numbers to compare them to?
Thanks Josh... but I don't think said numbers actually exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
If someone wants to prove me wrong feel free.
I hear your mother has seventeen vaginas. Is this true?
www.google.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Only 15.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Close though.
I hate being misinformed.
www.google.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Josh
meatholes.com imo...
So to answer the sales question (sort of)...As of today, 1.5 million VC titles were sold. Considering they cost probably a total of 13 cents to make, that's pretty good. I bet that's probably well over half of the total number of XBLA games sold over XBLA's lifetime (Uno and Geometry wars have 700K gamertags in the leaderboard and they are by far the two biggest titles, so put that together with the fact that there will be many gamertags that didn't buy the games, like people going over to someone's house, etc).
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/200...do_financ.html
1.5 million, that's pretty insane considering how many Wii's are out there. Stop buying VC games!
I can do you one better...
The VC version of MK 64 will not support ghost data. Maybe a minor detail for some (most), but just reaffirms the fact that Nintendo is a piece of garbage.
my sister loves zelda (shes played wind waker, the GC bonus disc of Ocarina, and started Twilight Princess but hasnt touched it much. I got LttP and she hasnt let go of it. Its amazing how bad she is at 2d games but how quickly she catches on to 3d ones.
From a interview with Hudson:
-They are happy with virtual console though they've encountered problems with emulation and third party permission to use some games.
-On the subject of Rondo (???) they will look into Japanese games after they are finished with US titles.
-They had plans for PS3 online but are unclear now, they are impressed by Xbox Live but have no current plans. *-neo
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?op...=4618&Itemid=2
Apparently, Nintendo is working on a coding library for original games on the VC.
At this point, Nintendo is damned if they do, damned if they don't for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
To be fair, that marks removing features instead of adding them. Everyone should be pissed at that precedent.
True, but you are talking about Joust here, he will find anything to bitch about even though he has no plans to buy any of their products anyway. I don't see the ghost data to be that big of a deal.
But not making the games online is a legitimate gripe. If they are going to charge $8-10 for these old games, they could at least update their emulator to allow for online play. These things have been in existence for years now on the PC....
Wii News Channel is pretty cool.
News and Weather are 100% worthless for anyone who owns a PC. The effort wasted on that shit should have been put to implementing online play.
The ghost data removal would mean they'd actually have to alter the cart, wouldn't it?
or maybe they'll leave it in and it just won't work, which would be the most lol pathetic thing ever.
I don't either, but it's still bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Then again, I also don't see it as being a big deal because I already own Mario Kart 64, as does everybody else on the planet with an N64.
I thought they were worthless period. I open the door/window to check weather. I don't care about news as long as there is no nuclear fallout. I know, I am myopic like thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
That would make me spend money on the Virtual Console. Now if they add online support they would get a guaranteed sale.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
apparently OoT is the big 64 title coming out on Japan VC in Feb. US port please.Quote:
Originally Posted by prosciutto
Yeah, cause you know that has already been released many times.Quote:
Originally Posted by RDM Brian
Yeah I've already got the disc for the GameCube with OoT on it which means I can already play it on the Wii. No thx.
I agree that I would rather have another 64 game come out like Goldeneye (fat chance), Mario Kart 64, and many others, but for those that don't have the GC disc or the 64 version, $10 does beat the $40-$50 for the GC disc.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Totally true, but it's not as fun to look at them on pc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I got both of my Zelda discs for free. I still don't understand why they run so high on ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElCapitan
Yeah, I hate it when things are well organized. That takes all the fun out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daitokuji
Now that sega and Nintendo are officially bed buddies, I think sega should create and sell a Dreamcast and/or a Saturn Emu for the Wii. You'd use your own games of course, but that would be fucking sweet I think
I doubt the Wii could emulate the Saturn even with Sega's help, let alone the DC.
HAY what's out tomorrow, anyway?
It'd be great if Nintendo would take games like Mario Kart DS or Phantom Hourglass, strip out the touch screen functionality, and release them as new N64 games on the VC.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElCapitan
Isn't it Mario Kart 64?Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
Eew. Anything that's worth a damn?
There are so many things wrong with this idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoleTroll
Wooooo Contra III!Quote:
Today Nintendo adds four new classic games to the popular Wii video game system’s Wii Shop Channel. The games go live at 9 a.m. Pacific time. Nintendo adds new games to the channel every Monday. Wii owners with a high-speed Internet connection can redeem Wii Points to download the games. Wii Points can be purchased in the Wii Shop Channel or at retail outlets. This week’s new games are:
Mario Kart 64 - (Nintendo� 64, 1-4 players, 1,000 Wii Points): Put the pedal to the metal in this worthy successor to the Super NES classic, Super Mario Kart. Mario Kart 64 boasts great graphics, tons of unique power-ups and a stunning 3-D version of the legendary Battle Mode. With improved courses and a revolutionary head-to-head four-player mode, Mario Kart 64 is sure to win the heart of any race-driving fan. The game includes 20 different courses filled with dips, valleys, jumps, tunnels and bridges. Smooth, precise control ‘a trademark of all games from Mario creator Shigeru Miyamoto’will bring players back time and time again for freewheeling fun.
Contra III: The Alien Wars - (Super NES�, 1-2 players, 800 Wii Points): In the year 2636, the Alien War continues, and it’s up to two soldiers, Jimbo and Scully, to put a stop to the alien invasion. The aliens have ravaged the Earth with their powerful organic and technological weapons. Players can join with a partner and battle through six stages of nonstop run-and-gun action. Collect power-ups, including bombs, flamethrowers, spread shots, lasers and machine guns to take out the aliens. Control Jimbo and Scully as they travel through war-torn cities, race on air bikes, ride missiles and ultimately break into the alien base to defeat the alien boss once and for all.
Bonanza Bros. - (Sega Genesis, 1-2 players, 800 Wii Points): Mobo and Robo Bonanza are enjoying their favorite television show when the picture crackles and the shadowy figure of a mysterious stranger appears on the screen. This figure asks them to collect certain items that he has placed inside various buildings to test his security force. If they return the items successfully, Mobo and Robo will be rewarded. The two of them state that they will get the job done in just three minutes. However, little do they know that each building is packed with security guards who will raise the alarm if they are caught red-handed. Fortunately both Mobo and Robo are equipped with bullets that can knock the guards unconscious for a few seconds. A huge reward will be given out if Mobo and Robo are apprehended. Help the infamous Bonanza Bros. infiltrate a number of different locations ranging from banks to mansions to casinos, and don’t get caught.
Comix Zone - (Sega Genesis, 1 player, 800 Wii Points): Sketch Turner is an artist in New York City. One day while Sketch is drawing, a huge thunderstorm strikes the city. A bolt of lightning hits Sketch’s image and brings it to life. That image is Mortus, a megalomaniacal mutant who wants to become real and rule the earth. Mortus magically transports Sketch into the pages of his comic book so that he can end his creator’s life and become real. Inside the comic book, Sketch meets General Alissa Cyan, who believes he is a superhero that came to save their post-apocalyptic world from the evil brought by Mortus’s hand. Now that he’s a comic book superhero, Sketch can really put the hurt on the bad guys. Instantly, Sketch can fight like a one-man mercenary platoon.
Since when were the characters called Jimbo and Scully in that, though? I thought it was still Bill and Lance.
Contra!! Now I gotta hook the Wii back up....
Contra III - Have the cart
Mario Kart 64 - Have the cart
Bonanza Bros. & Comix Zone - Genesis Collection
Come ON, Nintendo... :(
Clearly they're looking at your game collection before releasing games for the Virtual Console.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
! I was wondering where Miyamoto would disappear to every time I had him over for Yahtzee!
That douchebag-kun!
VC > XBLA this week.
Konamii +1
Arg, this is getting old. If you're only going to release older games with no updates whatsoever, then at least release something that's rare or didn't make it to the US. Mario Kart 64? Who didn't have that?
:td: to XBLA, :cry: to VC this week.
If they release something obscure, it's "Aw man, they release this but not [popular game]? Nintendo sucks!"
If they release something popular, it's "Everyone's played this, where's [obscure game]? Nintendo sucks!"
Wah wah wah wah wah.
A fair number of rare games are by companies that bowed out a long time ago and therefore a hassle to get the rights to. So far R-Type 3 has gotten a release and a ton of the Turbo content is far easier to get on VC than track down on Hu Card.Quote:
Originally Posted by Giga Power
Not a bad week actually. *-neo
They're releasing multiple games a week so they could do both. But yeah, some people will complain no matter what.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bacon McShig
Perhaps if they did something with the games...I love how they half-ass everything and when people aren't happy, the others just throw up their hands and say "OH MAN NINTENDO HAS TRIED EVERYTHING GIVE EM A BREAK"
They fixed framerate issues in MK64. But they jettisoned the ability to save Ghost data. So it's a wash (although, personally, I care far more about steady framerate than ghost data).
Not bad for this week. I never played MK so maybe this is a good start?
Mario Kart 64 is best played multiplayer--four-play splitscreen is very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Do N64 games play in 480p widescreen on the Wii?
How about 1p?Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkRyan
480p 4:3. It will stretch to 16:9 by default if you have your TV set that way though, so you'll likely have to force it back to 4:3 to not look retarded.
Mario Kart 64 is one of the top 5 games on the system. If you haven't played it, download it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Okay, I will put that on my list if I can find a deal on those Wii points.
Considering the N64 only had 4 good games, that's not saying much. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
SIN & PUNISHMENT IS BETTER THAN THOSE GAMES AND THE A-TEAM COMBINED
WTF@OKNVIDJFFA:LDASLKNSIMONSAYSGOSNOW
IMO the SNES and Nintendo DS Mario Kart games are the only games with any lasting value if you're going to play the game single player. Mario Kart 64 is great for multiplayer, but I remember being bored with the single player game after about 2 hours when the game was first released....and I bought it off a kid at my high school for $20 a week after it came out because he claimed it was boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
EDIT - At this point in time, I don't really think Mario Kart 64 is worth $10 anyways. I think it would be great for $5...but $10 is too steep...and at that price point you might as well just hunt down the original cartridge if you still have a N64.
My Virtual Console dream is that the original Starfox will run at 60FPS. Playing the Starfox boss in WarioWare made me want to play the original again pretty badly, and having it run in a decent resolution at a high framerate would be amazing.
No, I'm not getting my hopes up.
James
I bought Mario Kart SNES a couple months ago to play again. The game is a piece of shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid
NO YORE POCCHARI!
You act as if they are going to release original games... They could update the games to have online play or something that'd make them worth rebuying.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaoofNee
I had 800 points for Contra III in December. I don't now, and I'm kind of irritated, though I at least got Soldier Blade with 600 of them, which is an entirely new experience for me, and a good one. This method of releasing games is absolutely nonsensical. Withhold the quality content long enough, and yeah, I imagine users will be irritated no matter what they get. How would the iTunes music store have worked out if they started out with nothing and released 3 albums a week? Yeah, not so good.
Wake me up when Super Metroid and Kirby's Adventure are here.
What if the albums took several to several score hours to listen through and to access different tracks you had push the arrow keys in a certain order corresponding to visual information? What if they only appealed to a very small portion of the population who would only buy a few well-known albums that they had more than likely owned or at least listened to several times anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Grave
Super-speed MK64:
Wait, apparently this was in the original N64 cart too, I just had never heard about it. Cool.Quote:
There seems to be a glitch with Mario Kart 64 on the Virtual Console. Select "Moo Moo Farm", 3 Players, and start the race. Seems to work every time. Almost hope it stays unpatched, looks pretty fun this way.
How improved are the framerates in MK64; I remember the 4 player split-screen slowing to a crawl back in the day.
Yeah, they could, but they won't. I'm not even thinking about that functionality. Nintendo already knows they can make plenty of money with legal emulation and it's about damn time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daitokuji
So, I only judge the games at face value. Face value is "Oh, I own these already. Hell, I have almost their entire Genesis release list on one disc for the PS2."
So, screw 'em.
That never happened...Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
DK's Jungle says helloQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Granted I haven't played MK64 is a 8 or 9 years, but I don't remember it ever grinding down very badly or affecting gameplay.
It did.
Back when I worked at a bar years ago one my female co-workers came up to me out of nowhere one day and handed me a copy of Mario Kart 64. She said, "You play videogames, right? I was throwing out all my N64 stuff and found this, thought you might want it." Never did turn it on, I still have no idea if the cart even works.
Not really going anywhere with this story, but mentions of MK64 always remind me of that odd moment.
Did you tap it?
Spo, DK Jungle runs just as good as the rest of the game in this one. I'd say the whole game runs a tad faster than the og.
Just purchased MK64. Best Wii purchase to date. This game was all my friends and i played last year in the dorm. Naturally I kicked all their asses. It's nice to play this on an HDTV without it looking like utter ass. I tried playing the 64 version back in the summer and couldn't stand it. Also, $10 for MK64 is not bad at all considering it goes for at least $20 most places, at least last time I checked. The big N is starting to put some good stuff out there, but not nearly enough good content just yet. I'd like to pick up Super Castlevania, Link to the Past, and Contra III sometime soon.
Is it just me or is the audio in VC MK64 really shitty in a lot of places? Maybe the original was like that but I never noticed since I didn't have a nice system back in the N64 days.
Confirmed. That level felt weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Hmmm...I don't remember the N64 ever having especially great sound. You were just playing the original last year Capitan, notice a difference?Quote:
Originally Posted by GohanX
I was reading that they compressed the sound in the VC version. Better running, no ghost, slightly worse sound. Hm.
Where did you read that?
Wait, so no ghost data AND worse sound?
Just...wow. That makes me very sad ;(
I'm sure you'll get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
Some guy on neogaf was whining about it. I don't really expect much out of N64 games anyway. Mario Kart 64 music is pretty awful, bad sound or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Sort of. While actually racing I haven't paid enough attention, but when the music is playing as you are getting the trophy, i can definately hear the music cut out or skip for just a second every now and then.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
So what's coming Monday?
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
More whining from Joust.
Confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
At least there might be features added to Joust's whining.
Achievements and leaderboards pls.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi