Official Wii Thread: Part 3

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05 Dec 2006, 02:32 AM
James

I go to work and the thread grows 20 pages. I miss one little post and it all goes wrong. :(

James
05 Dec 2006, 02:45 AM
PKBMax

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Originally Posted by Sega saturn x

Or they could just as easily say "fuck that noise" for them breaking their promise in the first place.

You're pissing about companies breaking promises and your username is Sega Saturn X? :wtf:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
05 Dec 2006, 02:49 AM
Joust Williams

"It's 2006, built in wireless and backwards compatability should be the minimum standard."
Lawl what good is wireless if yoou can't do anything with it? And what if your network at home isn't wireless? YOU'RE SCREWED! Oh but no one wants HD, even though more people have HD sets than wireless networks...

"Just out of curiosity, why are we holding Nintendo solely responsible for lack of cables?"
Why should I blame Nyko for not making cales just so the system looks a little less like dog shit? No one cares about HD, remember?
05 Dec 2006, 03:03 AM
PKBMax

Component cables make a big difference, even on a standard defintion TV.
05 Dec 2006, 03:07 AM
James

Actually, the Wii's graphics are fine. No, they don't look 360-calibur good, but they're fine. Seriously, quit whining. The rest of the world is over it, why aren't you?

Also, how many people using cables that didn't come with the system use official Sony/MS/Nintendo ones?

James
05 Dec 2006, 03:59 AM
frostwolf ex

my opinon of the wii in 7 words.
wish somewhere close had one for sale.
thank you, good night.
05 Dec 2006, 04:01 AM
SpoDaddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

Lawl what good is wireless if yoou can't do anything with it? And what if your network at home isn't wireless? YOU'RE SCREWED!

Unless you buy the $30 Nintendo WiFi dongle, or the upcoming wired adapter.

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

more people have HD sets than wireless networks...

That smells like you pulled it out of your ass.
05 Dec 2006, 04:01 AM
ChaoofNee

I actually used the standard composite cables to hook my Wii up to TrialSword's family's Philips big-ass HDTV. Although I thought it would look like total shit, it actually ended up really nice when stretched to wide screen. The whining really is out of proportion to the severity of the situation.

...but it still sure would've looked a vole-fucking lot better in component.
05 Dec 2006, 04:03 AM
frostwolf ex

note to self, keep chao away from my pristine voles.
05 Dec 2006, 04:14 AM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan1CC

^^^

S-video was available in '91. Neat, didn't know that.

S-Video has been around even longer, dating back to the 80's with the commodore 64, all though that didn't use the standard 4 pin mini-din used today, it used an 8 pin din. Which I don't know what else used, but it was one of the first consumer devices to feature S-Video. The fact that 15 years ago right after the SNES launch I could get S-Video cables for the system and yet can't even get those right now for the Wii annoys the fuck out of me.

I mentioned it in one of the Wii threads don't know which one now so many have been closed, BUT Nintendo of America makes no fucking sense to me, they shipped the NES and SNES with both RF and Composite cables. They had S-Video available day one for the SNES, N64, and GC. Granted GC Component cables had to be bought online only, which was again an american only thing as Japan had them instores, but I will let that slide because of the expansive DAC chip needed in them, FINE. With the Wii not having anything available at launch just makes no fucking sense to me.

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Originally Posted by James

Just out of curiosity, why are we holding Nintendo solely responsible for lack of cables? I know I bought my s-video cable for the 360 last year several days before the 360 hit, and it was made by Nyko. Where are all the third-party peripherals? While it would be nice if Nintendo filled in the void caused by their shortsightedness, I'm kind of surprised nobody else has stepped up to claim all that easy money hanging around unspent.

James

I did bitch about them too, and honestly I have no idea where they are or why they dropped the ball as well. I mean React was able to get their PS3 component cables out for launch, why not the Wii, there's no expensive proprietary chip this time, it's just regular pins and cables. I mean all of them fucked up React, Pelican, Blaze, Mad Catz, every last one of them. I mean shit Pelican's now wont be out till January or February. What the fuck is taking so long? It's not that hard to make cables, there's no short supply of 75ohm cables, or of little metal pins. I really want to know what's up with this. I even emailed Nintendo saying they had a great launch minus this problem and that it was pathetic they couldn't have the component cables out in stores at launch. All they replied with was that I could buy it online (which I mentioned in my original email) which I replied back to them bitching about that and how it should be in stores but never heard back from them.
05 Dec 2006, 04:16 AM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaoofNee

I actually used the standard composite cables to hook my Wii up to TrialSword's family's Philips big-ass HDTV. Although I thought it would look like total shit, it actually ended up really nice when stretched to wide screen. The whining really is out of proportion to the severity of the situation.

...but it still sure would've looked a vole-fucking lot better in component.

see on my tv composite looks really asstastic, it's like the tv is sitting there going it's fucking composite I don't care lets blur the fuck out of it. Meanwhile everything else from S-Video and up is fucking gorgeous. I haven't touched Zelda in about 2 weeks because I want component cables first. I stopped at half way through the second dungeon and I'm just going to wait.
05 Dec 2006, 04:45 AM
1CCOSA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

S-Video has been around even longer, dating back to the 80's with the commodore 64, all though that didn't use the standard 4 pin mini-din used today, it used an 8 pin din. Which I don't know what else used, but it was one of the first consumer devices to feature S-Video.

Very interesting, thanks again for the enlightenment/A/V history info.

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I mentioned it in one of the Wii threads don't know which one now so many have been closed, BUT Nintendo of America makes no fucking sense to me, they shipped the NES and SNES with both RF and Composite cables.

One thing I don't quite understand is why don't video game companies just make the component out on their systems like the simple component out on the back of any standard DVD player? Does it cost more? Is it about space concerns when designing the system? Because it'd sure be nice if I could just use the same generic component cables I use on my DVD player on any given console as long as I didn't mind the minor inconvenience of having to swap cables.

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Originally Posted by ChaoofNee

I actually used the standard composite cables to hook my Wii up to TrialSword's family's Philips big-ass HDTV. Although I thought it would look like total shit, it actually ended up really nice when stretched to wide screen. The whining really is out of proportion to the severity of the situation.

...but it still sure would've looked a vole-fucking lot better in component.

While I wait 'till I can afford a Wii, me and my brother are currently playing though Metroid Prime Echoes on his new 52 inch LG plasma (stretched to widescreen both for the aesthetic and to protect the unit from initial burn in) We keep commenting on how surprisingly nice it looks in composite.

But remembering the potential of the TV still makes me wish one of us would have snagged some GC component cables long before their price became an ebay pariah.

Once they're released, I seriously refuse to play Prime 3 and especially Mario Galaxy unless I have some component cables. So I am gonna try my best to get them when I buy my system.
05 Dec 2006, 05:06 AM
Detour

Just a heads up to AstroBlue - If you're planning on getting one on Thursday, Target has all games at $20 off, and the accessories at a significant saving as well.
05 Dec 2006, 05:10 AM
Josh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan1CC

One thing I don't quite understand is why don't video game companies just make the component out on their systems like the simple component out on the back of any standard DVD player?

So they can sell you proprietary cables. Duh.
05 Dec 2006, 05:11 AM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan1CC

Very interesting, thanks again for the enlightenment/A/V history info.

You are welcome

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One thing I don't quite understand is why don't video game companies just make the component out on their systems like the simple component out on the back of any standard DVD player? Does it cost more? Is it about space concerns when designing the system? Because it'd sure be nice if I could just use the same generic component cables I use on my DVD player on any given console as long as I didn't mind the minor inconvenience of having to swap cables.

I would say those 2 reasons are probably the main ones. Cost and Space, look at the back of the Wii there really isn't much room on the back of the system to fit, component, S-Video, Composite, and RCA Audio jacks. It could be done but it'd probably be a bitch to do. They would cost more but honestly the jacks are a minimal expense you're probably talking the difference between 50 cents for the multi-out compared to maybe a dollar or two at the most to have all those other Jacks. Plus it becomes another avenue of income for hardware manufacturers. Instead of you being able to go to monoprice.com and buy a new set of perfectly fine component cables for 6 dollars, you have to buy the Console Manufacturer branded ones for 30, or a 3rd party set.

It's annoying and it sucks, I think the only consoles to do that were the Turbo Grafix 16 (well at least the turbo booster had standard RCA A/V on the back) the 3D0 (which has S-video and composite on the back), and hmm the PS3 has an HDMI port on the back of it, but to get anything else out of the system you need a Multi-out, so it only semi counts.
05 Dec 2006, 05:13 AM
SpoDaddy

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Originally Posted by Detour

Just a heads up to AstroBlue - If you're planning on getting one on Thursday, Target has all games at $20 off, and the accessories at a significant saving as well.

I don't see anything about it on cheapassgamer.
05 Dec 2006, 05:22 AM
1CCOSA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

I would say those 2 reasons are probably the main ones. Cost and Space, look at the back of the Wii there really isn't much room on the back of the system to fit, component, S-Video, Composite, and RCA Audio jacks. It could be done but it'd probably be a bitch to do. They would cost more but honestly the jacks are a minimal expense you're probably talking the difference between 50 cents for the multi-out compared to maybe a dollar or two at the most to have all those other Jacks. Plus it becomes another avenue of income for hardware manufacturers. Instead of you being able to go to monoprice.com and buy a new set of perfectly fine component cables for 6 dollars, you have to buy the Console Manufacturer branded ones for 30, or a 3rd party set.

You're right, and now that I think about it, if I were in charge of designing a sleek little console I probably wouldn't want to include two sets of A/V outs either.
05 Dec 2006, 05:24 AM
1CCOSA

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

I would say those 2 reasons are probably the main ones. Cost and Space, look at the back of the Wii there really isn't much room on the back of the system to fit, component, S-Video, Composite, and RCA Audio jacks. It could be done but it'd probably be a bitch to do. They would cost more but honestly the jacks are a minimal expense you're probably talking the difference between 50 cents for the multi-out compared to maybe a dollar or two at the most to have all those other Jacks. Plus it becomes another avenue of income for hardware manufacturers. Instead of you being able to go to monoprice.com and buy a new set of perfectly fine component cables for 6 dollars, you have to buy the Console Manufacturer branded ones for 30, or a 3rd party set.

You're right, and now that I think about it, it is impractical. If I were in charge of designing a sleek little console, I probably wouldn't want to include two sets of A/V outs myself.
05 Dec 2006, 05:24 AM
Detour

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

I don't see anything about it on cheapassgamer.

Location: Sydney, Australia
05 Dec 2006, 05:29 AM
SpoDaddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detour

Location: Sydney, Australia

Oh, nevermind. Aren't games like $20 overpriced to start with over there?
05 Dec 2006, 07:41 AM
AstroBlue

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detour

Just a heads up to AstroBlue - If you're planning on getting one on Thursday, Target has all games at $20 off, and the accessories at a significant saving as well.

Nice. I'm probably gonna wait :(
05 Dec 2006, 11:21 AM
ChaoofNee
05 Dec 2006, 12:33 PM
PKBMax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

The fact that 15 years ago right after the SNES launch I could get S-Video cables for the system and yet can't even get those right now for the Wii annoys the fuck out of me.

I mentioned it in one of the Wii threads don't know which one now so many have been closed, BUT Nintendo of America makes no fucking sense to me, they shipped the NES and SNES with both RF and Composite cables. They had S-Video available day one for the SNES, N64, and GC. Granted GC Component cables had to be bought online only, which was again an american only thing as Japan had them instores, but I will let that slide because of the expansive DAC chip needed in them, FINE. With the Wii not having anything available at launch just makes no fucking sense to me.

You know man, I get your point: it is annoying that cables aren't readilly available in stores.

That said, if it is such a big issue for you you should have just ordered one online. That's what I did and I've had my cable for almost a week now. There comes a point where all your complaining crosses the fine line of Nintendo's failures into your own stubborn refusal to pay $5 for shipping.

Yes an extra $5 sucks, but if it is such a big issue perhaps it's worth it. It's not like the damn cable doesn't exist, and no one can get one. The cable is at Nintendo.com waiting to be bought, you just refuse to do so.
05 Dec 2006, 12:38 PM
Schlep

I'd rather be able to drive down to Hastings, Best Buy, EB, Target, etc and pick one up. Agree with Johnpv.
05 Dec 2006, 12:48 PM
D_N_G

Shin John is the man, NOA lost their minds with this one

Day 1 available cables:

Gamecube Svideo > Wii composite

The could have at least added the extra little svideo connector onto the packed in composite cables. I know they want to suck more money out of the consumer, but this was just a terrible business decision

Component is definitely the only way to go these days and is pretty much a standard on all new tvs now.

Havent even opened zelda waiting for the cables to come in. Wii looks like total ass through composite on my tv
05 Dec 2006, 12:49 PM
PKBMax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlep

I'd rather be able to drive down to Hastings, Best Buy, EB, Target, etc and pick one up. Agree with Johnpv.

Sure. I'd rather the system came with one, but it doesn't.

Therefore you have two options: buy one from Nintendo.com and pay $5 or wait until you find one in the store probably in mid-January.

Whatever option you choose is on you.
05 Dec 2006, 12:52 PM
Schlep

What?
05 Dec 2006, 12:53 PM
Cowutopia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

"I see a system that works referred to as a cheap gimmick and good games referred to as trash, but very little in the way of reasoning as to why. I remain unconcinced as to why I should dislike a system I'm having such a good time with, and endless stupid insults aren't going to be changing my mind any time soon."

You don't have to dislike anything. But I have given you plenty of reasons why I think it's a gimmick or lame. The VC is inferior to XBLA because it lacks any functionality beyond the original game. The fact that Nintendo is PURPOSELY holding the big names back for inevitable "real" game droughts is wack. Granted, the 360 is doing this too, but they have an excuse: the games aren't just roms. Secondly, Nintendo put their flagship game that could have EASILY been done on the Cube on the Wii to spur sales. If you're going to port it to the Wii, make some graphical improvements, please. It's not like they didn't have time to do this. Thirdly, Excite Truck is an abomination. The remote gives you nothing in terms of feedback. It doesn't snap to center like a gamepad or a real wheel, it clearly isn't pushing the Wii, it doesn't have online play (which should have been day freaking one, at least the PS3 could do this). All I see is a mini-game system. Don't get me wrong, mini-games can be fun, but when it dominates your line up, that reeks of quick cash-in. They're easy to develop because you don't have to have a sense of continuity throughout the game or anything. Fourthly, there is NO quality control on the system whatsoever. GT Pro Series and about 6 other games have NO business being on the Wii whatsoever. This is a system that's a) more powerful than the Cube and b) developers know it already. The best advantage to using old hardware is the comfort level for devs right away. We didn't see this; instead, we got stuff that could easily be done on the Cube. Can you think of another time where a new console couldn't even match the previous gen? That's just beyond sad. Even the big hitters coming later can't match the Xbox 1's best.

All of these points clearly point to Nintendo being in it just for the money. Granted, all companies are, but at least they try to hide it. Put it this way...if Infinium DID make a console and it had these problems, you would be laughing. And rightfully so. Nintendo doesn't deserve a pass because you played Mario when you were 4. 3dfx was knocked from their perch when they couldnt keep up. You should demand more. IMHO

This is all true. I expect some of these problems to be fixed in future though.

However, despite all that, I still think the Wii is worth owning. I've never had more fun playing games with my friends, save for possibly guitar hero. Like I said in the GoW thread, GoW is awesome, but Wii Bowling is as much fun.
05 Dec 2006, 01:14 PM
Shin Johnpv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schlep

I'd rather be able to drive down to Hastings, Best Buy, EB, Target, etc and pick one up. Agree with Johnpv.

Truth, especially since Nintendo's own Miss Kaplan and other's at Nintendo, fuck even a manager at the World Store said "Yes Component cables will be available in stores on day one. "

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Originally Posted by PBMax

Sure. I'd rather the system came with one, but it doesn't.

Therefore you have two options: buy one from Nintendo.com and pay $5 or wait until you find one in the store probably in mid-January.

Whatever option you choose is on you.

The fuckers are back ordered to hell online now, and have been for awhile. Personally I don't like ordering shit online, I don't like having to pay for shipping, I don't like having to wait. Call me impatient but some times I am. There are certain things I want to be able to just walk into a store and buy, and sure I could order them online, but that doesn't in anyway shape or form change the fact that they dropped the ball BIG TIME on this. I mean NOTHING is available in stores, nothing, no RF, no Composite, no S-Video, and no Component. It's so asinine. It shos such a lack of thinking on NoA's part. I mean they were asked a billion times in interviews and emails from people asking if component cables would be available instores, they HAD to have known there was a demand for it. Do they do anything about it, no they just didn't give a fuck at all. NoJ, and NoE did how ever, and that's what pisses me off all the more. It would seem the US got the majority of the Systems but Japan got all the cables.

I just feel I have to call them out on this, as I've said before I think for the most part this was a great launch, all except for this fuck up, which IMHO is a huge one. It's only made all the worse thanks to scalpers and the moronic general public who hear that component cables are rare so everyone and their fucking mother has to have one now, even though half of them wouldn't have given a shit about them if they weren't "rare".

I mean come on how hard is it to make some cables, there is no reason for them to not start pumping them out and have 10,000 in stores in no time. They shouldn't need months and months to get a supply out there, it's plastic and some simple copper wire. There's no specialty chip in there, it's just common every day 75ohm cables, and some plastic.
05 Dec 2006, 01:59 PM
JefmcC

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

Not true. A recent industry survey showed that the second most important feature in a new console to prospective buyers was backwards compatibility. The first was quality games, the third was price.

I Googled and couldn't find this "recent industry survey". Link to your source?

Personally, I don't think people really care about BC. They think they do, but in reality most people want to play new games, not old ones. I think it's a nice feature to have, but very, very, underutilized.
05 Dec 2006, 02:26 PM
MechDeus

On the bright side, at least Nintendo is actually selling component cables in stores this time around.
05 Dec 2006, 03:12 PM
D_N_G

just got back from best buy, they had react s video cables in stock for 19.99

they also had 2 places (not in stock) for component cables labeled react brand was 24.99 and the other had no brand (probably psyclone) but was 49.99
05 Dec 2006, 03:13 PM
D_N_G

Quote:

Originally Posted by MechDeus

On the bright side, at least Nintendo is actually selling component cables in stores this time around.

qft
05 Dec 2006, 03:18 PM
Joust Williams

Apparently, the VC is getting a game that certain retro gamers have been clamoring for for a decade, and it isn't a Sega or Nintendo game. It's also apparently for a system that currently is not on the VC.
05 Dec 2006, 03:24 PM
RoleTroll

Dracula X, I presume?
05 Dec 2006, 03:27 PM
Joust Williams

Wow, 3rd party games sold like complete ass in Japan...

Nintendo - 553,429 / 87.6%
3rd party - 78,050 / 12.4%

Hardware Sales
Wii - 350,358

Software Sales
Wii Sports - 176,167
Wii Play - 174,297
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - 139,011
Odoru Made in Wario - 63,954
Swing Golf Panya - 16,908
Ennichi no Tatsujin (Namco mini games) - 10,763
Red Steel - 9,392
SD Gundam Scad Hammers - 9,226
Tamagotchi Pika Pika Daitouryou - 8,042
Elebits - 5,791
Super Monkey Ball Banana Blitz - 4,423
Crayon Shin-Chan - 4,248
Trauma Center Second Opinion - 4,107
Kororinpa - 2,416
Necro-Nesia - 1,934
Wing Island - 800

Hopefully this is a wake up call to good Japanese developers to stop making games for the system.
05 Dec 2006, 03:39 PM
Scourge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

NOTHING is available in stores, nothing, no RF, no Composite, no S-Video, and no Component.

I just got back from Best Buy and they had two sets of Nintendo brand S-Video cables.
05 Dec 2006, 03:39 PM
Compass

I'm surprised at Elebits' relatively low numbers. An FPS (Red Steel) sold almost twice as much? In Japan? That doesn't seem right.
05 Dec 2006, 03:54 PM
Javon_McCloud

Just got back from local Best Buy in MN and they have the Psyclone brand component cables in stock. No more muddy Twilight Princess.
05 Dec 2006, 04:01 PM
Rem

Quote:

Wow, 3rd party games sold like complete ass in Japan...

I heard a theory some time back froma long time N-fan boy that the reason most third party games sell poorly on nintendo systems is they have to compete with nintendo made games. Sort of like steak over hamburger, I don't really agree with the idea. Mainly because I don't think most of nintendos own entries are always very good. But it's hard to argue with the fact they are generally better than the craptastic third party stuff the systems get. Which is why they sell better in my opinion not because they are great just better than the rest.
05 Dec 2006, 04:33 PM
Bacon McShig

3rd party games can do fine on Nintendo systems. RE4 sold almost 400k in its first month, I believe Viewtiful Joe sold over 200k in its, and Tales of Symphonia has sold a surprising amount, well over 500k.

Make a good effort and it'll sell. Throw some bullshit shovelware at it, and it won't. Nintendo systems just look worse for 3rd parties on the average because they get less of the former and more of the latter, percentage-wise.
05 Dec 2006, 04:34 PM
RoleTroll

It's an interesting question. Part of it is Nintendo losing franchises like Final Fantasy and Metal Gear, which no doubt would have sold well. But it may mean that the people buying the Wii in Japan (so far) are fanboys. They need to be pulling non-gamers, Sony gamers, etc. if they want to seriously compete this generation.
05 Dec 2006, 04:36 PM
Rem

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

3rd party games can do fine on Nintendo systems. RE4 sold almost 400k in its first month, I believe Viewtiful Joe sold over 200k in its, and Tales of Symphonia has sold a surprising amount, well over 500k.

Make a good effort and it'll sell. Throw some bullshit shovelware at it, and it won't. Nintendo systems just look worse for 3rd parties on the average because they get less of the former and more of the latter, percentage-wise.

I don't think 3 or 4 games can really be considered doing well for third parties. That's why I didn't even bother mentioning them. The point was even shovel ware can sell on the other systems (fitty cent that new ff 7 game) just not on nintendo consoles. That's what his whole idea was about, I just didn't really agree with it.
05 Dec 2006, 04:47 PM
Manic Miner

Well if 3rd party developers make big fine tuned great games, im sure they will sell on a Nintendo system. Its just that I dont see any company making anything as big as lets say Metal Gear or Final Fantasy standard.

They need to put time and effort and not just anything made quickly....then again, the majority are smaller and less funded companies.
05 Dec 2006, 05:02 PM
Rem

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBMax

You're pissing about companies breaking promises and your username is Sega Saturn X? :wtf:

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Your point? My name isn't "I support segas ass hole in fighting and screwing over fans X."
05 Dec 2006, 05:32 PM
Joust Williams

"Well if 3rd party developers make big fine tuned great games, im sure they will sell on a Nintendo system."

RE4 flopped on the Cube. It's why there will not be a RE5 on it. This whole "Oh, Nintendo makes the best games" is horseshit.
05 Dec 2006, 05:36 PM
PKBMax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

"Well if 3rd party developers make big fine tuned great games, im sure they will sell on a Nintendo system."

RE4 flopped on the Cube. It's why there will not be a RE5 on it. This whole "Oh, Nintendo makes the best games" is horseshit.

Man you're trying really hard now. Do you just make this nonsense up?
05 Dec 2006, 05:42 PM
Scourge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

RE4 flopped on the Cube.

http://play.tm/wire/click/302586
05 Dec 2006, 05:59 PM
Opaque

I was playing Trauma Center and Monkey Ball with some friends on Sunday and now I can't wait until Christmas.

Say what you want about Monkey Ball's single player in the Wii version, but playing those mini games while drinking is the most fun I've had with a multiplayer game in a long time.
05 Dec 2006, 06:00 PM
Joust Williams

That's nothing. Are you telling me that the game performed as Capcom had hoped?
05 Dec 2006, 06:03 PM
Scourge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

That's nothing. Are you telling me that the game performed as Capcom had hoped?

That was just the first five months of availability. Plus 220K in Japan for all of2005 and a sellout of the allocated 200K at launch in EU. As good as PS2 sales? No. Flopped on GC? No.
05 Dec 2006, 06:10 PM
Joust Williams

It was one of the Cube's biggest sellers...but that's not saying much. Especially considering the $ it cost to make it. That's why it came out on PS2. That's why RE5 is a 360 and PS3 game.

The first five months of availability for a game late in a console's life span is pretty close to how much it'll sell.
05 Dec 2006, 06:14 PM
Scourge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

It was one of the Cube's biggest sellers...but that's not saying much. Especially considering the $ it cost to make it. That's why it came out on PS2. That's why RE5 is a 360 and PS3 game.

The first five months of availability for a game late in a console's life span is pretty close to how much it'll sell.

Yes, but altogether those numbers add up to just under 1 million. It didn't flop. Which you said.

The PS2 version as of May of this year sold 1.8 million.
05 Dec 2006, 06:16 PM
Joust Williams

If Vice City or San Andreas sold 1 million, it would be pretty crappy. There is such a thing as 'relative'.
05 Dec 2006, 06:27 PM
RoleTroll

Wow, now a million in sales is crappy... but only if it's on a Nintendo console. It's getting downright nutty.

Capcom thought the sales were great, which is why it will be bringing RE games to the Wii.
05 Dec 2006, 06:31 PM
Joust Williams

No, Capcom did not think the sales were great. The Wii is getting some shit spinoff.
05 Dec 2006, 07:01 PM
Josh

Nintendo sucks.
05 Dec 2006, 09:05 PM
SpoDaddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by JefmcC

I Googled and couldn't find this "recent industry survey". Link to your source?

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14428

"Interestingly, at 68 percent, backwards compatibility was listed as the second most important factor. This could be a disadvantage for Microsoft's Xbox 360, which only features limited compatibility with certain original Xbox titles."
05 Dec 2006, 09:22 PM
SpoDaddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

That's why it came out on PS2.

The PS2 version was announced a month before the Cube version even hit shelves (which cut heavily into the Cube sales; quite a few people that were planning on buying a Cube for the game just waited for the PS2 version instead).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

No, Capcom did not think the sales were great.

http://www.gamershell.com/companies/capcom/237422.html

"With Resident Evil 4, the series and the entire survival horror genre have been advanced to a whole new level," said Todd Thorson, director of marketing, Capcom Entertainment. "It's been rewarding to see that the incredible response the game has received from fans and critics has been mirrored by a phenomenal retail performance."
05 Dec 2006, 09:36 PM
Compass

Maybe Spo and Joust can argue in PMs? Their posts to each other alone must be stressing out dial-up users.
05 Dec 2006, 09:41 PM
Salsashark

Quote:

"With Resident Evil 4, the series and the entire survival horror genre have been advanced to a whole new level," said Todd Thorson, director of marketing, Capcom Entertainment."It's been rewarding to see that the incredible response the game has received from fans and critics has been mirrored by a phenomenal retail performance."

I bolded the right parts.

Also, I have no opinion on this and you guys that do need to find better outlets for...whatever it is that is wrong with you.
05 Dec 2006, 11:42 PM
avatar

People are starting to post vids of themselves playing the wii on the internet. As you can guess they are pretty damn funny.

The girl in the gray is mildly hot. I'll tap that

The little girl one is so cute.
05 Dec 2006, 11:48 PM
Compass

The girl in gray is indeed somewhat attractive. The little girl one is old'd.
06 Dec 2006, 12:05 AM
James

I have s-video cables, and life is as it should be again. Now to get that roomy SD card I've been eyeing and my Wii peripheral shopping is 100% complete.

James
06 Dec 2006, 12:08 AM
Shin Johnpv

I say god damn it when putting as well, it's good to see it's universal.
06 Dec 2006, 12:29 AM
PKBMax

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

Apparently, the VC is getting a game that certain retro gamers have been clamoring for for a decade, and it isn't a Sega or Nintendo game. It's also apparently for a system that currently is not on the VC.

Are you making this up or do you have some legit info?
06 Dec 2006, 12:36 AM
Nash

Quote:

Originally Posted by avatar

The girl in the gray is mildly hot. I'll tap that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Compass

The girl in gray is indeed somewhat attractive.

You guys need to get out a little more.
06 Dec 2006, 12:37 AM
avatar

Theres a big thread about that on GAF.

Atari 5200, Commodore, Intellivision, etc... confirmed.
06 Dec 2006, 12:38 AM
avatar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

You guys need to get out a little more.

Hey i said mildly hot. i wouldn't date her, but I would get her drunk and well...you know.

BLAK THUNDAR!!!!
06 Dec 2006, 12:41 AM
GohanX

By the way, if you're waiting on component cables, I'd go ahead and order from Nintendo. I placed an order Friday, it was listed as backordered, but it shipped today, and I should have it in my hands Thursday or Friday. Not bad.
06 Dec 2006, 01:00 AM
MarkRyan

Quote:

Originally Posted by James

I have s-video cables

From where!?
06 Dec 2006, 01:06 AM
James

Best Buy, like everyone mentioned a few pages back. I walked in, looked for the blank peg they normally wouldn't be hanging on, and almost missed them because of it.

James
06 Dec 2006, 01:52 AM
PKBMax

Quote:

Originally Posted by avatar

Theres a big thread about that on GAF.

Atari 5200, Commodore, Intellivision, etc... confirmed.

Seriously? Link?
06 Dec 2006, 02:51 AM
Joust Williams

So that's what it is? Weak. They go from doing ROMs of old games to doing ROMs of REALLY old games?

How about upgrade them like XBLA ;/
06 Dec 2006, 02:54 AM
Finch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

Swing Golf Panya - 16,908
Elebits - 5,791
Trauma Center Second Opinion - 4,107

/o_o\

Quote:

Hopefully this is a wake up call to good Japanese developers to stop making games for the system.

Quote:

According to Enterbrain, the best-selling 360 game of the weekend was Namco's Ridge Racer 6, which sold 29,891 copies. The runners-up were lagging far behind, however--Perfect Dark Zero came in second with 14,897 games sold, and Need for Speed Most Wanted took third place with 6,842 moved out the door.

Quote:

# Total PS3 units sold: 88,400 (33,800 20GB; 54,600 60GB)
# Best Selling Game: Riiiiidge Racer 7 (30,300 units)
# Second Place: Gundam Crossfire (30,000 units)
# Bronze Medal: Resistance: Fall of Man (15,700 units)

If launch numbers stop Japan developers from making games, all we'll get is Riiiiiiiidge Racer and shitty Gundam games. Also, 360 had a system to game rate of .91 while PS3 was .98. Maybe Japan will just stop making games altogether. Hey, no loss there. rotful at Gundam Piss in the Player's Face selling nearly as much as Ridge Racer.
06 Dec 2006, 02:57 AM
Joust Williams

We don't need more Ridge Racer games. Maybe if they did something to the franchise it wouldn't have sold like crap (in Japan, obviously every 360 game sells like crap, but that's because they have poor taste in pretty much everything in life).
06 Dec 2006, 03:03 AM
Manic Miner

lol, good comeback Finch!
06 Dec 2006, 03:05 AM
James

http://wii.ign.com/articles/749/749393p1.html

Level editor that lets you share your creations online in Elebits? Nice! :D

WiiConnect24 not up yet, so we won't be able to share for a while? Lame!

James
06 Dec 2006, 03:11 AM
Manic Miner

Hey, any1 know how the sales of the Wii and Wii Sports were different in Japan?

Wii hardware - 350,358
Wii Sports - 176,167

I thought the game is bundled with the system! Or is that not the case in the land of the rising sun?
06 Dec 2006, 03:13 AM
Finch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

So that's what it is? Weak. They go from doing ROMs of old games to doing ROMs of REALLY old games?

How about upgrade them like XBLA ;/

How about both services actually do shit to compete for buyers instead of releasing either too few games to actually care about or just dumping roms with nice emulators.

Quote:

We don't need more Ridge Racer games. Maybe if they did something to the franchise it wouldn't have sold like crap (in Japan, obviously every 360 game sells like crap, but that's because they have poor taste in pretty much everything in life).

Japan sales are usually pretty anger inducing anyway, and neither launch had much else to choose from. For rly, it's kind of all shit all around. I really would've liked to see a genuinely good game that actually improves by leaps and bounds upon its predecessor (Trauma Center) sell more. I wonder what the American launch numbers were.
06 Dec 2006, 03:15 AM
ChaoofNee

Quote:

Originally Posted by That guy that's way too excited

I thought the game is bundled with the system! Or is that not the case in the land of the rising sun?

Just here.
06 Dec 2006, 03:17 AM
avatar

Quote:

Originally Posted by PBMax

Seriously? Link?

Sorry, that's the rumour. It hasn't been confirmed, but people are guessing that's what it means.
06 Dec 2006, 03:38 AM
SpoDaddy

Saturn games please.
06 Dec 2006, 04:16 AM
Manic Miner

Teh Megaton?
06 Dec 2006, 04:28 AM
PKBMax

I just beat Red Steel. My thoughts are here: http://www.the-nextlevel.com/board/s...t=40944&page=4
06 Dec 2006, 08:35 AM
Chux

Quote:

Originally Posted by GohanX

By the way, if you're waiting on component cables, I'd go ahead and order from Nintendo. I placed an order Friday, it was listed as backordered, but it shipped today, and I should have it in my hands Thursday or Friday. Not bad.

Ditto, HLR @ YOUR BOY.

I was weary at first but said fuck it, they're not getting to stores anytime soon. I got the 2 day jam, and it shipped yesterday. Might get them today, but probably tomorrow.
06 Dec 2006, 11:00 AM
SpoDaddy

Circuit City is selling third party component cables for $60. They're called "Python" cables or something like that; the whole gold diamond platinum encrusted wire gimmick to charge double for cables.
06 Dec 2006, 12:29 PM
burgundy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

You guys need to get out a little more.

You need to stop fronting. If she was playing 360 you'd be fapping it up.
06 Dec 2006, 01:42 PM
Nash

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgundy

You need to stop fronting. If she was playing 360 you'd be fapping it up.

You don't have to defend them just because you also find unattractive girls attractive, Burg.
06 Dec 2006, 01:52 PM
Finch

Nash, are you a necrophile? If you don't like girls that are alive, you probably wouldn't find her attractive.
06 Dec 2006, 02:10 PM
Compass

If it was just a picture, yeah whatever, but I liked how she was all sprightly and spirited, trying her best to play the game well. I could see her possibly being annoying IRL though.
06 Dec 2006, 02:40 PM
RoleTroll

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

You don't have to defend them just because you also find unattractive girls attractive, Burg.

Her graphics are hot by Wii standards.
06 Dec 2006, 02:46 PM
Nash

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoleTroll

Her graphics are hot by Wii standards.

This made me laugh for real. :lol:
06 Dec 2006, 02:51 PM
Joust Williams

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/virtual...mes-219592.php

VC PAL troubles...lawl
06 Dec 2006, 03:05 PM
avatar

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/7851

Half-Life 2 with the wiimote. Looks really easy and it doesn't even use all of the wiimotes features nor does it even use the nunchuck.
06 Dec 2006, 05:48 PM
Detour

I picked mine up at the midnight launch last night. Enjoying it so far.

One thing that is lol - PAL territories get Wii Sports in a proper white DVD case with sleeve + booklet. Also, VC selection here makes the US list look amazing.

Off to go buy accessories now.

lol wii.
06 Dec 2006, 06:09 PM
mollipen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joust Williams

No, Capcom did not think the sales were great. The Wii is getting some shit spinoff.

Yeah, a "shit" spinoff that builds upon one of the best parts of RE4 (Mercenaries mode), and re-creates areas and characters from all of the previous major RE titles. Your trolling won't work against this one.
06 Dec 2006, 06:46 PM
PKBMax

Quote:

Originally Posted by shidoshi

Yeah, a "shit" spinoff that builds upon one of the best parts of RE4 (Mercenaries mode), and re-creates areas and characters from all of the previous major RE titles. Your trolling won't work against this one.

Cool. I didn't realize that much info had been released. Link?
06 Dec 2006, 08:46 PM
Mikey

I've seen claims that the SNES Virtual Console emulation offers a low-res option. Can anybody confirm this please?
06 Dec 2006, 08:57 PM
Glitch

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detour

One thing that is lol - PAL territories get Wii Sports in a proper white DVD case with sleeve + booklet.

Oh snap, I've got to import this.

Printing sleeves off the Internet and slipping them into a white DVD case didn't end up working out as good as planned due to the paper curling. Wii Sports deserves better.

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