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Another year, another DC shooter ;) . *-neoQuote:
NAOMI's Trigger Heart Exelica from Warashi, this time. It'll be called "Trigger Heart Extension" and how couldn't it, it'll get a regular and a limited edition. Out in February.
Via Arcadia Magazine, via Kobayan, and that.
Screens?
I'll be damn... http://www.warashi.co.jp/exelica/
Wow. I'll still be buying DC games in 2007. Never thought that'd be the case, but I'm not complaining.
I'll still be burning them! Disk Juggler , here I come!! :)
Oh shit.
I've played this shooter a bit in the arcade... it's damned good.
Now to try to find a DC.
Ugh, let it die.
Who am I kidding, I'll have my preorder in with NCSX asap.
Wow, that's pretty cool. Long boss fight. I just wish shmups like this came to Live Arcade ;( I think a good one would do incredibly well.
I was expecting something pretty bleh looking, but that does look nice.
DAMMIT that's almost exactly the style of shmup I was trying to make up until about a year ago (using a whip to capture enemy units and throw them at each other). Another idea unknowingly stolen by someone more productive.
Wow, that was actually pretty impressive.
How far along did you get, out of curiosity? Coding your own engine or anything?Quote:
DAMMIT that's almost exactly the style of shmup I was trying to make up until about a year ago (using a whip to capture enemy units and throw them at each other). Another idea unknowingly stolen by someone more productive
I had a good chunk of graphics (low-pixel stuff since I wanted the attempt to be really simple at first) and had been messing around making tests with various freeware engines. A programmer had been working with me for a while but we had some disagreements and then it fell apart.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tain
I might still have some leftover stuff on my hard drive somewhere, I'd have to take a look.
Looks great, but the music sounds like midi ass :(
That looks way cool. Nice to see people still trying new ideas with this genre.
No one mentioned that it's Rori-desu ^_^-chan Bootykins Heart Explosion Time. I figured i should. Looks like a game that has lots of chantastic times.
The music is to set your heart on fire. And it does just that... Desu ne? DESU NE? DESU NE BITCH!!?Quote:
Looks great, but the music sounds like midi ass
Oh shit, that looks hot! How does this keep happening with the DC? It's almost silly.
I'll have my print screen button ready when I see this game above just about any PS3 game in the weekly Japanese sales chart.
The music is nothing amazing, but it isn't distracting either. Trust me, you're going to want to have this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by AstroBlue
The BGM isn't bad- it reminded me a bit of some Thunderforce V tracks, even if it does sound midi. The swing-n-throw mechanic looks interesting and there are some nice bullet patterns.
I'll be getting this one.
Holy shit, I am pre-ordering this fucker with the quickness. I <3 my DC.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrialSword
Even I have to admit that the novelty of new games coming out on the DC has worn off on me, but this game looks pretty decent and I may get it all the same.
I'm just going to keep posting, This game is damned good shit. Do not pass on it.
I will pass for investment purposes. STOP putting these games on the Dreamcast. START putting them on Live Arcade. A really visceral shooter (Japanese or not) would do very well.
Damn, I was hoping this would look like crap, so I wouldn't have to dip into my wallet for it, but I really like the look of the mechanics here.
I do actually agree with this too. It would be much better to put this on at least a newer system like the PS2. Putting it on the DC is pretty crappy, especially since DC's are harder to find now and few stores are actually willing to carry these games.Quote:
Originally Posted by I LOVE PLAYSTATION THREE
Putting some good shooters on Live Arcade would be a great idea.
I'm sure this game is over 50 meg, so no to Xbox Live Arcade. Possibly PS3 store.
I somehow doubt the sales of the japanese DC version will affect any prospects it may or may not have of coming to Live Arcade.Quote:
Originally Posted by I LOVE PLAYSTATION THREE
Also, Live Arcade games cannot be more than 50 megs as a rule, and regardless of what you'd like it to be (i.e. Steam) it is not going to get you full-fledged retail-quality games like you keep demanding.
I really do wish MS wasn't retarded and included the HD in all models, but they weren't so we're fucked. If Live Arcade weren't broken it honestly would be a good place for these games.
Have any of these post-mortem DC shooters been worth picking up? I haven't really paid attention to them.
Border Down is a masterpiece, but it goes for $150-$200 now, so you may have missed the "worth picking up" boat. Under Defeat is likewise one of my favorite DC games(review). I think you can still find that one, and its well worth the $60.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Radirgy is good, but it's coming to the GC in the US for cheaps. Trizeal is alright, especially if you like Raiden/Shienryu style shooters, but IMO not worth dropping $60 on. You're better off skipping Chaos Field, but it's cheap on the GC in the US if you're curious.
Ikaruga, Zero Gunner 2, Grev's games come immediately to mind, everything else is average or found for less elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
I agree Xbox live would be a good venue to showcase some shmups but then I rarely see the praises of Geometry Wars and Mutant Storm sang by more than a few people online. Arcade style gaming seems a hard sell with the casual crowd unless it's a Galga or Pac Man comp. *-neo
ZG2 wasn't really post mortem. And I think even Spodaddy knows about Ikaruga. But yeah, G.rev have been the reason to keep the DC hooked up.Quote:
Originally Posted by neoalphazero
I usually mention ZG2 because it was released out of the blue at a time when media and player attention was shifting from DC (same with say, Cosmic Smash), and Ikaruga just seems a better port on DC.
*-neo
Between my Mame cabinet and playing Shikigami no Shiro 3 early and in near-HD resolutions, I find myself wanting more and more PC ports of these games than anything else.
Talk about setting yourself up for disappointment.
Guwange called, it wants its gimmick back.
I own and love Ikaruga for GC; I always wanted Zero Gunner 2 but never got around to buying it. Sounds like I'll have to add Border Down and Under Defeat to the list.
I understand that visually it sort of looks similar (projecting something attatched by a tether), but seriously, wtf. That doesn't look like it plays anything like Guwange.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeve
Yeah, I didn't quite get it. I mean, Zero Wing or Tumiki Fighters or something might make sense, but how does Guwange relate?
That looks like fun. Are pre-orders up yet?
"but then I rarely see the praises of Geometry Wars and Mutant Storm sang by more than a few people online"
Mutant Storm yeah. But Geometry Wars sold a ton of copies. I think Mutant Storm was too similar to other games on the service (like Geometry Wars even) to get much looks...I really like it though. A vertical shooter with lots of bullets would be a welcome addition. I'm not sure why there hasn't even been one single one yet. I mean it was a huge chunk of arcade gaming and is still one of the few around that has lasted so long.
Think of a captured enemy like the shikigami attack and it kind of fits if you squint real hard. Also kind of like Space Bomber. Looks better than both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tain
I've played Exelica a number of times and it doesn't play much like Guwange at all. You can block bullets and convert them to points, but its got a very different pace and scoring style. If anything, it's as similar to Guwange as it is to ESPrade and Progear. Even really huge enemies can be captured, but it can take a while for the capture bar to fill, plus the discus-throw move takes some practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeve
I wouldn't go so far as to call it great, but it has interesting play mechanics and I can see a number of people here enjoying it. It gets a lot of play at the arcades, at any rate.
Progear...
/o_o\ One day, i will wake up and find out it's been released to console.
Of course it is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Your shortsighted review of BD has long since been shrugged off by the shmup community. Border Down is as well liked as Radiant Silvergun at this point.
Sorry, but that statement has made me laugh. I don't know nor want to know what's The Shmup Community, anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
You just don't like it because it is not 2D or low res. BD rules.
Yeah, that bastard of me. Why in the world do I love Gradius V and Ikaruga.Quote:
Originally Posted by I LOVE PLAYSTATION THREE
Because you're a Treasure fanboy?..Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
..I don't know, just guessing. ;)
quoted for truth! (what is that? QFT!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Border Down took awhile to grasp, but after reading up about the break laser and watching some videos it revealed itself to me to be one phenomenal game. The implementation of the different "borders" is fucking stellar!
Under Defeat is awesome, awesome, awesome! nuf said.
Trizeal and Radilgy rule because they’re both unique unto themselves. And Radilgy's got tons of gameplay to uncover - between aggressive shield usage to the sword swipe, and the absorption barrier, and collecting ground items there is tons to learn and grasp. Plus the graphic style and presentation is unlike any other shooter I know of - always a pleasure to play.
Trigger Heart Exelica looks likely to fit in brilliantly with one of the best shmup lineups on any console. Dreamcast kicks ass!
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"Fanboy", you said?
Recap, we haven't sent your bat signal. It's a false alarm.
But you ALWAYS need to be saved.
man, we can always count on you to tell it like it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
In other news: Insert Credit reports the special version of T.H.E. will include the soundtrack and a special booklet. It also appears the game will be distributed in a DVD case. Will THE earn a spot next to Under Defeat and Cosmic Smash on my shelf, or will it get hidden away in a drawer somewhere?.. Only extended playtime will tell!
I'm glad this is coming to DC, since it means I'll get to play it in VGA.
I don't really understand why anyone would expect something like this to show up on XBLA. It wouldn't scale well to 16:9 at all, and I doubt very much that it would support vertical graphics modes.
Yeah, it involves people other than yourself. No one who matters, obviously.Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
No shmup can ever really have mainstream success in today's market, but among people that play shmups, the game is well loved. That's all I'm saying
People who know what they're talking about, typically.Quote:
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I must disagree respectfully.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
It seems to sell for about $90 or less. Maybe some auctions have gone higher, but 80-90 is the going rate as far as I can see. That's still far too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
The only recently closed auctions I could find disagree. Regular version $120, LE $243Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
http://cgi.ebay.com/Border-Down-for-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/SEGA-Dreamcast-B...QQcmdZViewItem
I can't believe I sold that back in the $60 days. Major ripoff.
And all I'm saying is that that's not true. Just because you found some random internet people on some random Western forums liking the game and you persist in ignoring other different opinions because they're contrary to that from yourself, it doesn't make the game "a masterpiece".Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Let me laugh once again.Quote:
People who know what they're talking about, typically.
Yeah, I didn't even believe that one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
I'm not part of the shooter community but I really liked Border Down. It was my favorite shooter on the DC, but I've always enjoyed horizontal shooters.
And you thinking that your opinion somehow invalidates mine on something as abstract as how much fun a game is shows that you're an asshole.Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
If you took a poll of people's 10 favorite shmups over at the shmups.com forums, Border Down would be one of the most popular games mentioned, along with Dodonpachi, Radiant Silvergun, and Ikaruga. All of those games have people that like them and people that think they're meh. Border Down isn't for everyone, but it's retarded to deny that its following, moreso than most games in the genre.
Nah, it only shows how lame the use of the term "masterpiece" is when it comes from some random people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
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Finally, you got it. I'm really laughing now.Quote:
shmups.com forums
Are you retarded or something?
Hey recap. Why don't you tell us about "Yossi" again.
Fucking retard.
You'd still fail to understand it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Yes I would:
1)Its a typo.
2)You're a dumbass.
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1)Its a typo.
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Don't be a nerd (if possible).
That's because your ass was banned at shmups.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Recap
Eh, patient hunting on forums can get you Border Down for less than $100 (for the normal version). Ebay is the only place with psychotic prices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
And Border Down really is one of the greatest shooters ever.
I just couldn't get into it. But I'm not a huge fan of hori's (aside from Progear.)
LAWL SCANLINES!!
LAWL YOSSI!!!!!
LAWL BANSTICK GO!!!
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Really? Interesting point.
I saved that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Please Recap, being someone who speaks the japanese language I would love to hear you explain Yossi again... it'd make my day.
Yossi desu ne. That's all there is to explain.
Sengoku Blaede
News flash: You are a random person. We are all random people. I don't know why you don't get the concept of opinion.Quote:
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Yeah. "Newsflash".
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I never said you were wrong for not liking the game, I just said you were and asshole for pretending no one else does, or acting like your opinion is somehow more qualified or relevant than any other person's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
It's nice having recap back, he makes Spo look like Einstein. We should definitely milk this for all it's worth, cause it won't last long.
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e334/bVork/recap.jpg
I'm a horrible person.
rotful, i was going to post "REKAP ATTAK!" in really big font. I forgot about that game.
bububut Recap would never stand for the horrible western bastardization of まじかるハットのぶっとびターボ！大冒険
That mix of hiragana and katakana makes me cry :( :( :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Tain
Lol I don't have Japanese characters instaled so that's just a bunch of boxes
The worst part is that's how it was on the box too... fucking japanese. They love to make shit hard as hell to read for us foreigners.
Cause you know Magical is obviously a japanese word and should definitely be in hiragana.
Nice try. One is a limited edition and the other is sealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?t=11436
Go Recap , go!!
Best thread in months.
People, people.
That's why you never used "shortsighted review" to qualify my opinion nor hurried to point what's The Shmups Community's official word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Seriously, you failing to get all this time that all what I did was just giving my opinion much like you gave yours is almost as lame as your usage for the term "masterpiece", especially if you persist in the namecalling. Think about it.Quote:
I just said you were and asshole for pretending no one else does,
Nah. I just laughed at your arguments 'cause they are pretty laughable. This is TNL, anyway. My opinion IS more qualified and relevant than any other here.Quote:
or acting like your opinion is somehow more qualified or relevant than any other person's.
You are an asshole. And that's one of the worst constructed sentences masquerading as an argument I've seen in days. GG jackoff. :tu:Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
This thread is filled with generous helpings of Phail.
Since when is that an issue here?Quote:
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So then you can read it about as well as Recap can.Quote:
Originally Posted by I LOVE PLAYSTATION THREE
Yet more random people!
Is there any game you would think would appropriately be termed a masterpiece that you personally don't like, or do you simply find yourself to be the arbiter of all quality? The game is well loved, it's the best game those people have made, and they've made a number of quality games. Hence "masterpiece." That's all the word implies.Quote:
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Who the fuck could not be described as a random person?Quote:
Originally Posted by Recap
If you really don't care what anyone on this board has to say, why do you keep reading these boards?
Or if you really knew Japanese, you would know that japanese words are sometimes written in katakana for emphasis... and that foreign words are sometimes written in hiragana for emphasis.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb