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This is my new single leg counter.
You should all watch that, it's 24 seconds long and awesome.
Decent episode of TUF last night. Nothing really exciting either way.
lol @ 'bro
lol @ bible study time
The part with Serra and Joey having the heart to heart, they must've said "bro" like 25 times, I was lol'ing.
The TUF drinking game: take a shot everytime you hear the word "bro", "man", or "dog".
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Originally Posted by Kidnemo
I missed it last night, but if you mean that Hughes made them all study the fucking Bible...
that looks like his leg is cutting thru his body. i have yet to actually watch that fight.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
When shogun was fighting forrest, shogun catches forrest with an elbow and shogun's corner shouts something (like "yea you got him", something like that, can't remember).
Anyway, right after the elbow and shogun's corner screams, check this out:
http://www.uploadhouse.com/fileuploa...60c804ec37.gif
That was a great feat of athleticism for the single leg reversal/counter. Awesome how he contracts his leg to force his opponent in.
Man, that is an awesome action shot from the fight.
lol at Forrest's reply to Shogun's corner. Talk about calm and prepared.
Another thing Serra habitually says is 'You know what I mean?'
Okay, I saw the new episode last night. Matt Hughes is hilarious, but Serra's reaction to his "one hour of prayer time" is even funnier. "That guy is wacked out. I hate this cocksucker, I can't wait to fight him."
Two things I think were interesting that came out of this last Pay-per-view (I'm at work on an air-card and have already finished up all my main tasking for the week):
1. Joe Rogan brought up and really pushed (he even mentioned it in the post-fight ring interview) the idea of evolving the scoring to potentially better integrate [failed] submission attempts. I'm assuming this way of thinking will perhaps motivate fighters to take bigger risks, speed up fights, and not have them turn into lay-and-gay battles. My thought on this is that submissions end fights... if you fail multiple submissions, you are being aggressive (which should play a part in scoring the fight) but are being out-done by your opponent. If your submission catches you will probably win the fight; if your opponent escapes it, either you are being sloppy or your opponent should neutralize any scoring advantage you gain because he is outworking your attempt. Let's look toward Pride's yellow card rule as a way to solve stand-offs and look at the way they scored aggression as a factor in decisions to take care of going for submissions.
2. I want to take an in-depth look at the Chuck Liddell v Kieth Jardine fight and some interesting things that came up as it went on. OK, let's get this out of the way, Chuck Liddell isn't my favorite fighter. He is almost exclusively a counter-puncher that only gets aggressive after his opponent is hurt. I feel that has made for a few good fights and a lot of boring ones. Jardine capitalized on this by staying outside that range and kicking in, but what really happened with the scoring in this fight? It went to Jardine on a split decision, which I probably would have scored it off of my ideal scoring system, but UFC doesn't really take aggression into account (well maybe they do). So the whole time the announcers were going apeshit over Jardine's kicks, which were great, but at the same time Chuck was doing, consistently, more damage with punches, to Jardine's face. The body shots obviously did damage and we couldn't really see what the leg kicks were doing, but they didn't seem to hamper Liddell's movements at all. How would you differentiate the scoring between a damaged body and leg to a smashed up face. Liddell's face looked untouched after the fight, Kieth's was pretty bad. Another thing I noticed was the time Jardine really caught Liddell with a punch and knocked him to the ground (which I'm guessing helped win him the fight) was shown over and over... The punch that Liddel landed on Jardine that seemingly knocked him to the ground, didn't look like as good a shot but still had the same effect. (I'm guessing because I've only seen the fight once.) They never replayed that shot... maybe it was a slip, but it seemed a little odd. It was a close fight, and for me marginally entertaining. I think two things really led to Jardine's win: Chuck's counter-punching boringness versus Jardine's aggressive posture (which I agree with) and Jardine being such an under-dog and actually surviving and taking it to Chuck.
I'm not sure how legs are scored vs. punches (maybe KidNemo can enlighten us?), but it seems like they'd be scored the same. I'm pretty sure aggressiveness/ring-control is considered in the UFC (just like in boxing).
As for failed submissions, I think right now they are considered part of "aggressiveness" but I'd certainly be interested in having them given a little more weight. The only problem with giving them extra weight is that ESCAPING a submission attempt is sometimes just as important (actually, MORE important, b/c it avoids a loss) as a failed attempt.
Other thoughts:
Kicks ought to be allowed on downed opponents.
Why don't more guys use the clinch and/or elbows?
Also:
LOL at Hughes thinking he's Esther. Esther? Really? The Jewish Catherine Zeta-Jones?
Good call on TUF drinking game, but you'd be dead before the fight.