Dragon Quest 9 Official Thread

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Unless Nintendo has its head even farther up its ass than I think they do, there will be a Wii tie-in here. Despite all of their claims to the contrary, the Wii third party support looks like a disaster from where I am sitting. In Japan at least, this would change all that.

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I'd guess this is probably what happened. Remember how Square/Enix had to offer Gamecube games, in exchange for bringing titles to the GBA?

I think this was a good move for Squenix, but I totally sympathize with dog$ here. If my favourite series was announced as DS exclusive I'd spazz too. Most of us would.

(I also think it's interesting that everybody's talking about this, but nobody cares enough about the series to complain about the fact that it looks like they've thrown the gameplay out the window and it's an action rpg now.)

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

But think of how much nicer of a console it would be with some great Japanese support. And I love the 360, but I have a bit of fear that once the PS3 really gets going, it could end up being the same as Xbox vs. PS2 was - the amount of "only on Xbox" stuff being insignificant when compared to the amount of "only on PS2" stuff, with most of its great games being cross-platform stuff.

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That thinking was what led me to want a PS3 in the first place, but I think they've fucked themselves so royally with a 9-pronged dildo that it'll be 2 years at least before they have a chance to catch up, nevermind passing 360.

Next gen games are so freaking expensive they have to sell a half million copies to turn a profit, which is completely unrealistic on one platform aside from a few smash hits. That's going to lead to more multiplatofrm games than ever, and the 360's lead is going to be impossible for Japanese developers to ignore.

I'm hoping that Microsoft's persistence with the Japanese market and the PS3's expense and relative unavailability means the 360 builds up some serious credibility there. Although I think the reality is that Sony's handed Nintendo the Japanese market back, and 3rd parties, seeing the realities of next gen profitability I mentioned above, are sure to follow sooner rather than later.

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

(I also think it's interesting that everybody's talking about this, but nobody cares enough about the series to complain about the fact that it looks like they've thrown the gameplay out the window and it's an action rpg now.)

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I'm looking forward to it. A portable Level-5 action RPG with Dragon Quest enemies and music? Sign me up. And after Final Fantasy XII Squenix has gotten a lot of leeway from me when it comes to messing with established series traditions anyway.

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

If my favourite series was announced as DS exclusive I'd spazz too. Most of us would.

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It helps soften the DS blow when it gets squashed onto the even shittier GBA first. Trust me, I know.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

It helps soften the DS blow when it gets squashed onto the even shittier GBA first. Trust me, I know.

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At least you have Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness.

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I'm so, so sorry.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I agree with the last part. Here is where I think portable gaming fits. It's similar to XBLA or Nintendo's VC. There are times when I don't want to use 17 buttons to play a game. At those times, I'll go back to a classic usually. However, the classics eventually wear thin, and portables are the only place we are going to get new non-17 button or 2D games from real developers in 2007 and beyond I fear.

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Well said and your comments pretty much reflect my sentiments. Very rarely will I buy console-type games for a handheld, which is a big reason why my PSP is getting very little attention and is on the verge of being disposed, saved only by games like Every Extend Extra. I won't buy a game like GTA for the PSP; it's a misuse of potential and resources (semi-redeemed by the PS2 ports) and it won't receive my money. Exceptions to the application of this view would include something like Phantom Hourglass. Since 2D games have not qualified as console-type games for a while now, they are excluded from my no-purchase list.

I didn't buy a portable to play dumbed down console games.

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

(I also think it's interesting that everybody's talking about this, but nobody cares enough about the series to complain about the fact that it looks like they've thrown the gameplay out the window and it's an action rpg now.)

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I should hope they don't complain about the change in gameplay, since so many people here were bitching about how stale it was in DQ VIII. I

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Originally Posted by StriderKyo

(I also think it's interesting that everybody's talking about this, but nobody cares enough about the series to complain about the fact that it looks like they've thrown the gameplay out the window and it's an action rpg now.)

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I just noticed that, and it does piss me off. I loved the gameplay of DQVII and VIII. I like how DQ is the deep RPG. And honestly I think this change could actually hurt DQ in Japan, because it's depth is what sells it.

I dont hate portables and honestly dont mind if a well-loved series' sequel ends up on said portable IF its not a step back in quality, gameplay,etc.

This one so far from the two pics I've seen looks obviously at least like a step back in graphical and audio ability. The gameplay remains to be seen. With the visuals and sound being two of the most important things that suck me into any game, I gotta say Im a bit disappointed that DQ9 isnt coming out for a next-gen system with visuals and sound on par with the previous one. Squenix did take a step back here and I dont know if it was a cash run only, trying to make some kind of statement about the game industry currently as Shidoshi mentioned, or if they really feel like the series will advance worthily on the DS. This should have been a side-story like that upcoming Joker game, not a full fledged sequel.

From the first glimpse of this is seems like a regression in tech and the series as a whole...

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Originally Posted by bbobb

I like how DQ is the deep RPG.

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:wtf:

Compared to what? They're certainly long and tedious with all manner of jobs/skills to master, but I wouldn't really call DQ the "deep RPG". I can think of a half-dozen RPG franchises off the top of my head with much more interesting systems that require far more thought and planning.