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A report from online stock tracker NotifyWire has indicated that supply for Sony's PlayStation 3 is currently higher than anticipated, not necessarily because Sony has been shipping more than expected, but because consumers may be put off by the price.
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LOL Sony!
Even though a thinking man can see that the PS3 is $100 cheaper than an equally tricked out X360, I'm glad consummers are voting with their dollars and saying no to having all the extra crap forced on them.
These keys on my keyboard are getting worn out these days but...Quote:
"It looks like level of enthusiasm for the console is moving closer inline with the supply and this is clearly not what the industry was expecting," the online tracker concluded.
L O L
The thinking man also realizes that all the good games you can buy on PS3 are available on 360, except for Resistance. And most people given the choice would take Gears over Resistance.
And as far as them not sitting on shelves, they are definitely sitting on shelves here in the town I live in, and on Sunday every EB I went to in Dallas had at least 1.
How do you figure? The cheapest PS3 is $100 more expensive than the most expensive 360, and doesn't include a headset.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusC
Good, if sales continue to be dismal there should be a price drop when I buy a 20GB one for the onslaught of 2007 awesomeness.
The price of the PSP still hasn't dropped.
I like the computer age. Any random asshole with a blog can be used as a 'source'. Who the fuck is this website and why should I care?
That said: lol sony.
Equally tricked out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
PS3 with wifi and next gen dvd=$600
360 with wifi and next gen dvd=$700
That's also taking into consideration that every person buying a 360 wants a next gen dvd player. Which just isn't the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusC
jesus fucking christ.
i'm not going to waste the time explaining, just reread the fucking thread.
Gee, people don't want to spend $600 for a videogame console. What a suprise!
No one wants a next gen DVD players. Even the people that think they want them don't. It's useless technology. A nice DVD player that can filter to 1080i looks virtually indistinguishable from an HD-DVD as far as the average consumer is concerned. And most people don't have large HDTVs that would justify it even if they did have eagle eyes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brand X
Shocked! Yes, I am fucking shocked that Sony is able to manufacture more $600 doorstops than people are willing to buy!
Such manufacturing prowess on display....
I'll still buy a PS3 once it goes to $300.
Yes. By the time it goes to $300 it'll have a couple hundred games worth playing. I'm sure Sony can move a $300 game system easier than a $600 doorstop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
I agreed with this until I actually used a next gen DVD player. Even the menus are 100x nicer. The whole format is just completely superior to DVD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
You forgot the price of the correct cables to get PS3 to display HD. I'd also argue that the HD DVD doesn't factor in because it's totally optional and if you want wireless internet you can get a bridge for much cheaper than $100.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusC
Even that comparison isn't dead on though. The $600 PS3 has 40 more GBs of HDD space. There isn't a way to get completely equal configurations, since the 20GB PS3 doesn't have WiFi.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusC
Who gives a shit about the menus? And I've seen them. The difference is not that great. Most people in blind tests can't tell the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I'm glad I don't base my purchases or any other decisions on what most people do then.
People would buy it if there were must-have games for it. There just aren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
You must be looking at a different 2007 release list from me. Lair and Heavnely Sword are the only exclusives really worth mentioning that are realsitically coming out next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by cka
And Romance of the Three Kingdoms
IAWTPQuote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Don't know how someone couldn't tell he difference between a standard DVD and a HD one.
I was in a Best Buy yesterday and they had a whole skid full of $600 model PS3s.
The store was packed and even though they had "PS3 in stock!" signs everywhere the only people who were even looking at them were the three employees guarding them.
I lol'ed.
But the point is, is that "equally tricked out" doesn't mean anything when one of the most expensive pieces of technology included in your "equally tricked out" comparison doesn't matter to 90% of consumers.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusC
But like you said, it's good to see that the average consumer is showing that they don't need all of this non sense by not buying it.
i dont think people are saying there is no diference, they are saying that the hd dvd's dont bring enough to justify the cost vurses what they can get with current gen dvds. its nowere as dramatic as vhs to dvd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
Most people prefer their movies in 4:3 because they don't like the top and bottom of the screen "cut off".Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
In other words, most people are idiots. This is not news.
As for the PS3 glut, holy crap, I love it. Never have I taken such joy in a corporation's fumbles. It seriously puts me in a good mood for hours.
Cant deny that.Quote:
Originally Posted by frostwolf ex
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Originally Posted by Frogacuda
This was the start of the Advocate vs Yoshi debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I am just happy I was right about the X-Mas season. The price is too high for the mainstream and most of the mainstream are morons so what Sony did was confuse the shit out of them. All I fucking get now are 'I need those HDVI cables' ... or ... 'I need those HD cables.'
Thanks fucking noob from Best Fucking Buy assmonkey motherfuckers! They spew the shit they read in those fucking que ass fucking sales cards and throw shit they don't fucking know at the consumer that doesn't know shit either. GOOD FUCKING JOB DICKWAD ASSHOLE! Now those jitbag shitface fuckers come into my center and bother me with their newly found infinite wisdom and tell me shit they don't ... a: know and b: heard over the sales men shoulder when he was talking to another customer.
Now at Comcast we are running out of Component cable ... why? Everyone has a HDTV and think they are entitled to the complimentary/courtesy cables. Yeah come into a Comcast office and you can get component cables(1 set) for free. Thats my little XMas gift to the TNL'ers.
Back on topic ... LOL sony.
in a related story kevin federline's new cd, "playing with fire" seems to be suffering from the same supply glut.
Well, if your charging a monthly lease on an HD STB as well as for the service, I would imagine its only fair to include the cables required to use it. Dish Net and DirecTV do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
Back on topic ... LOL sony.
The people who bought PS3s for use as a BD unit have already done so. Sony made the incorrect assumption that everyone (average consumer) would pay for this higher priced technology. They should have just put in SDVD and made the units cheaper instead of including a technology in its infancy. Just trying to force their BD format into households was not a good idea.
For those of you that are not down with HD content via DVD format, do you have HDTVs(20 inch monitors dont count)? HD/BD players?
Have you compared the differences in PQ (Picture Quality)and SQ(Sound Quality) between HDDVD and SDVD? Have you compared individual transfers on disks in both formats?
Do your home theathers have the capacity to handle the different audio formats? If so notice any differences in formats such as TrueHD,DD+, DTSHD/Encore and standard 5.1?
Do you fall in the average consumer category or consider yourselves audio/videophiles?
Is price the only concern?
As studios familiarize themselves with the new technology the quality of releases will only get better (compression, transfer methods, etc) Kinda like comparing a console launch title to one that is released 4-5 years later, usually a big quality jump. True, some of the current transfers barely have a discernable difference to their upconverted** counterparts, but some are so amazingly crisp and vibrant, and there is no way SDVD can ever touch.
** The average consumer wont even have a quality upconverting player so any comparison there is really moot. For those that would look into a quality upconversion unit at this point, the price difference between an HD player is not that far off. $200 Xbox add-on(mine was 160 with a free movie) or $249-299 Toshiba A1 HD Player w/ 2 free movies compared to $150-230 for a good Oppo Upconverting, or more for the likes of Denon, etc.
BD players are a rip at this point, ill give you that. Also B&M retail prices for disks is a little high, but there are great deals to be had online. (Picked up 15 flicks for an average of 12 bucks each this past month.)
The leap may not be as great as VHS>DVD but there is still a big leap.
The thing that cracks me the fuck up is that people are brainwashed into thinking there's a difference between composite cables and RCA cables. Yeah, you could spend $100 on a component cable set to hook up your HD cable box.... or you could go to Radio Shack and grab 3 RCA cables for $15 total. Same damn thing, but for some reason people just have to buy the ones that say "component" on the box. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
look at the pretty colors!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
Do you mind snagging me another bunch of component cables? Comcast in Jersey City already knows me because I snagged three sets before they even noticed. ;x I need one more, though. Think you can help a brother out? Either that or a DVI->HDMI cable. The lady at Comcast had no idea what I was talking about when I asked her about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
EDIT: And yeah, if I'm paying $60 a month to have cable, then I should get some fucking cables to go along with it. Cable is overpriced yet once the company has to shill out for some damn cables they get into full-out bitch mode.
Who pays $100 for component cables?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cheebs
I'll say it again:
My store has hundreds and no one is buying them. Which really, is probably the largest surprise in the history of ever.
Last year, my old store had a ton of 360s right after X-mas. However, they didn't move. Customers got so used to hearing "we're sold out," that they assumed we'd never get any and never bothered to come in and check. This continued until April, when we subsequently sold a fuck-ton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Opaque
I was at the mall today and didn't see any PS3s--looked at three stores.
Saw at least 6 yesterday between BB and Circuit.
Not quite. You can buy a wireless bridge for 360 for like $30. The official wifi adaptor is a huge ripoff.Quote:
Originally Posted by JesusC
Not denying the difference between SD and HD outputs. But regular DVDs with HD cables look pretty good, and with one of the new players that filters the output and upsamples it to HD resolution, they really do look pretty damned close to HD-DVD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
I'll bring you a set when I see you January 20th.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
I don't think I've yet gone to a game shop over here in Osaka that didn't have one or two PS3s sitting around.
Can't find a Wii or DS to save your life, however.
Tits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
No it doesn't. Maybe the newer releases have corrected the problems, but for the most part, you'll see blocky backgrounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
Just seeing HD content through a cable/dish provider, shows how much better the picture can be when broadcasted in true HD.
Theres a few promotions out in Comcast that can eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
A: Lower the bill.
B. Raise the bill but give you 3 premium channels.
If you PM me your info I can see if I can hook ya up.
Anyone outside of NJ ... PM me and I'll tell you what to say ... and basically give you the run down on the promotions.
I have basic cable (no HD, although I wonder wtf am I too lazy to get HD cable), phone and internet all from Comcast and it runs about 120 a month.
Rectify this please.
Oh PM...how about you PM me ;p
I highly suggest you check out Verizon Fios, if you have it in your area. You can get an HD package(plus phone and high speed internet), for about the same price as what you're paying now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joust Williams
I wish to god we could get Verison's Fios around here.
There are really only 2 cable companies around here, Time Warner & WOW. Unfortunately WOW isn't available in my area and Time Warner is way over priced for what you get (I can get almost twice as many channels on Direct TV for less).
You can sign up with Comcast and get the Platnium package (HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, TMC, and Starz), CDV phone (unlimited long distance; call id, call waiting, second line, free calls to PR, voice mail stored on net for access if away from home, etc), and CHSI (cable internet) 8megs, for $159. This will be introduced Mid-January. Just an FYI.
Normally this would be 200 or over.
(edit I added this up) Plat - 110., CHSI w 8meg - 52.95+3 for modem rental, and 39.00 for Phone = 204.95.
Oh and HD service is free due to you having the full package. You can talk to Comcast about that Joust. Due to you having all three ... HD should be free. That goes for anyone with Cablevison, Time Warner, or Comcast. If you have all three services; you at least have Digital cable and one premium channel (HBO, Max, Sho, TMC, or Starz). You are entitled to HD service for free.
Word up.
In my area PS3s are sitting at Target, CC, Best Buy, everywhere, but Wiis are impossible to find everywhere around me...
I'll get a Wii once they have one, but the 360 (which I just got) is covering me as the true next gen console, Gears and Dead Rising are better than anything out on PS3 for the forseeable future...
600 is niche videophile pricing...and people, mainstream gamers, will just not pay that kind of money and even gameheads don't give a crap about bluray right now -- how about this -- give me a console for games and I can worry about the movie watching on my own.
ssb
Unless you need a 60gig hard drive and Wifi support, the $500 PS3 is a fair comparison to the premium 360 pack.Quote:
Originally Posted by ssbomberman
http://www.associatedcontent.com/art...formation.html
No headset, though. Does the USB PS2 one work? I'd assume it does, but no one ever mentions it.
In Tokyo PS3's and Blue Dragon 360 systems were a dime a fucking dozen.Quote:
Originally Posted by shidoshi
Both versions of the PS3 support Bluetooth technology, so I don't see why it won't be available soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
After reading the review I posted above, I'm kind of bummed that the backwards compatable games, won't support vibration feedback. Does that mean that the PS3 won't support the old Dual-shock?