Hey now... you're stepping into my lane.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
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Hey now... you're stepping into my lane.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Ghhhhooooosssssstttttttttt!!!!
YUP! She was the only one I had any twinge of emotion about.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
The finale can be summed up as “despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage.”
This was also the only good think piece about the show:
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...me-of-thrones/
I'm actually a huge fan of the prophecies and such not meaning shit at the end. That said, Jon's entire life & personality were built around his father, Ned Stark. The few choices he did make for himself came from the honorable person who raised him. Yet he found out his true parents and sniffled once. It should have hit him more. As well, I like the point about rushing into war without all the facts/distorting the facts re: R+L and peoples' perception of what happened vs what did, especially with numbnuts in chief setting us on course for war with Iran. And yet, that gets the slightest nod as part of Tyrion having to fix problems or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
I'm unconcerned about King Bran even though I should be considering his powers.
As soon as they revealed that killing the Night King was the way to end all his creations, the White Walkers became a useless plot point.
I was happy to see he man and battle damaged battle cat reunited. So jon is the new mance and the true king in the north?
Keeping the nightwatch around seems stupid. Even if no one believed in white walkers, being sent to the wall made sense out of tradition and protection from wildlings.
But now they know there were whitewalkers, and they’ve all been wiped out. The wildlings are at peace with the south, so there’s no reason to worry about them. Besides, in a generation Sansa’s offspring and Jon’s offspring will marry and truly unite the North.
Oh, is everyone going to make use of the Nightwatch? Wouldnt it be weird for one kingdom to let another one send its worst people through to take residence there? There’s precedence set. They dont send their best people north. They’re sending people that have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people
Makes Lost look good. Yikes.
Nobody knew about the whitewalkers in the beginning, the Wall was always a defacto listening post for Up North with the Watch acting as mounties. I figure they go back to being mounties.
I mean, it was fine. A lot of eye-rolling from me. The iron throne. Trying to put humor into the king selection scene felt out of place. The Song of Ice and Fire was groanworthy. Brienne rewriting history was cringy. But I'm fine with, as Tyrion said, no one is happy, so it's a good compromise. My impression through the series is that nobody ever gets what they want, and despite their efforts they're swept up in the momentum of politics.
People knew, they just didn’t believe in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by YellerDog
Why did Jon and his team took the elevator when there is a giant gaping hole right next to it?
he’s a fan of muzak.
This is a really good comment but my phone doesn’t let me rep peopleQuote:
Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name
And yeah wtf with the nights watch shit, there’s no threat anymore. Dumbass show!!!
The Watch is basically a bunch of racist northerners that hate the free folk.
Uh, yeah, no. Lost was almost impossibly bad. They would have been hard pressed to write something worse if that was the goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by MVS
GoT felt really compressed and wasn't fleshed out enough, but the ending didn't have me asking myself why the fuck I wasted years watching this shit (like Lost did) and have seven thousand unresolved questions that we were promised answers to (black smoke, anyone)? Lost pissed me off. GoT had seven years of good/great and one year of meh/mediocre. I'll take it.
I feel like the real end should have been the fragmentation of Westeros into seven seperate kingdoms, with hints of impending wars for power between them, showing that you can break the wheel and dethrone the tyrant, but powerful men will always wage wars for power at the expense of the powerless. That would be thematically consistent with the story which, until the last seasons, really tried to subvert the hero narrative.
The idea that all it took was a weak sales pitch by a traitorous dwarf to convince all of the powerful men in the realm (who were conveniently and inexplicably assembled in hostile enemy territory) to put their differences aside and elect Bran is not just difficult to believe, but really inconsistent with the shows themes.
King Beyond the Wall isn’t a hereditary position; Mance Rayder was a defector from the Night’s Watch too, remember? IIRC there were decades- and even centuries-long stretches without a King Beyond the Wall, because no-one was a big enough hero to inspire the Free Folk to unite under them.Quote:
Besides, in a generation Sansa’s offspring and Jon’s offspring will marry and truly unite the North.
I would think Jon would be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Pirate Roberts
i swear he’s the worst.
well, second worst but only because the worst posts more often than he.
You get so obnoxious that it swings back around to not bothering me. As long as I can control myself enough to not get involved with your monologistic treatment of the board, it’s all good. So your video is correct, in this case.
It was fine. No bad, not great. I liked portions of how things turned out. At least Jon reunited with Ghost.
I just wish there was more done with the NightKing. I was fine with him dying like a bitch but what was his deal? Seriously? Kill everyone then what? The Three Eyed Raven thing is queer too. Hey guys! I can see the past!? But why? How? Huh?
There is no deal with NK, it is just GoT's Mid-Boss with a huge weak point.
I would have liked to the see the dragon burn Jon. That would have been a fitting end for him.
I'm not sure you can burn Jon.
Jon got burned back in season 1. No burning since his resurrection by Red Velvet, though.
The Night King was created to wipe out humanity to save the earth. So he didn't have an end game besides "Kill everybody," but they never did explain his connection to Bran, which feels like a huge dangling plot thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by EvilMog
The Night King wanted to kill Bran because as the 3 Eyed Raven he knew the entire history of humanity. He wanted to scrub the planet clean of humanity, not even a mention. And that means killing the 3 Eyed Raven. They said it in the fucking episode.
^ YupQuote:
Originally Posted by Error
Yes, that is what was pretty strongly implied at the end of the episode. The point is his descendants won’t, necessarily.Quote:
Originally Posted by haohmaru
They speculated that, but it's dumb. There would have been no reason for him to tend to the matter personally, nor to stand around and stare at him before doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Error
I don't think we'll ever know - though Jon isn't supposed to have an descendants whatsoever according to the "agreement".Quote:
Originally Posted by Space Pirate Roberts
He had to or Arya couldn't kill him. Duh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Frogacuda
We waited years for this encounter, he was just savoring the moment.
IDK, we can sit and whine about failed or dumb strategies, etc... but it was pretty clear, to me anyway, that the Night King had a chip on his shoulder and an arrogance. Why wouldn't HE want to be the one to deliver that blow to Bran and end humanity and its memories? Doesn't seem outlandish to me.
He had a lot of swagger to him, definitely.
NK killed less main characters than Walder Frey.