Duke Nukem Forever

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Originally Posted by gameoverDude

A new Duke needs to be more of a PC game also- DNF does seem to have been gimped a bit by having to cater to consoles, both graphically and in game play.

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You're aware this game is based on an older engine than what 360 games have access to had for the last 5-6 years, right?

2 weapon limit is a concession to console game design. It only ever happened because controllers don't have a number row to choose 10 different weapons.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Not having played the game yet, one thing I don't get is the backlash in the press against the Duke Nukem character himself, bitching that he's offensive, tasteless, blah, blah, blah. I mean, is he doing anything different now than he did in Duke3D? If not, what's the fucking suprise?

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That this stuff was commonplace and well-received fifteen years ago doesn't make it exempt from criticism in 2011. If a stand-up comic took the stage in full blackface for his show, "BLACKFACE FOREVER," would you give him a what did people expect pass?

A pause/slowdown + weapon wheel works fine.

Also, a two weapon limit is poor design. A four weapon limit is a concession to controller limitations.

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Originally Posted by Tain

"Gimped" by lame modern FPS conventions. I have a hard time believing this version of DNF is all that old, honestly.

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It's not.

They built this game in a year, from scratch, with no heart or care and that's why it sucks. There was no 14 year developement cycle, just 13 years leading up to a shitty rush job made by people who suck at making games, or at least Duke Nukem games.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

2 weapon limit is a concession to console game design. It only ever happened because controllers don't have a number row to choose 10 different weapons.

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There are so many ways around this it's ridiculous. The d-pad is often not used at all and could be a 4/8 way hotkey, and even when it is a modifier button could be used, and right stick + modifier button has been used before. Developers are just being lazy.

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Originally Posted by MechDeus

There are so many ways around this it's ridiculous. The d-pad is often not used at all and could be a 4/8 way hotkey, and even when it is a modifier button could be used, and right stick + modifier button has been used before. Developers are just being lazy.

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Yeah, I'm just saying the only reason anyone did it initially was because of controller limits.

Now people just do it because everyone else is doing it.

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Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me

That this stuff was commonplace and well-received fifteen years ago doesn't make it exempt from criticism in 2011. If a stand-up comic took the stage in full blackface for his show, "BLACKFACE FOREVER," would you give him a what did people expect pass?

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...Is this a trick question?


What would YOU expect from a comic known for blackface performing next week in a show called "Blackface Forever"? Because I'm pretty sure the show would contain blackface and I would stay away if that's not what I wanted.

Wow, I revised that post and took out some bits I forgot to replace. It was supposed to be about reacting to Blackface Forever's critics, not to the show itself.

Oh well, not important. I very much look forward to buying this for $20 soon.

I knew I was forgetting something when grousing about the suck-features of Duke. 2-weapon limit, that's a big one. Any developer putting that into their game needs to be beaten with a crowbar until they understand why it's a bad idea.

James