Are we a bunch of Sony haters?

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Think farther into the future. Zelda is out. If Mario, Smash Bros., and Metroid make 2007, what the hell is going to make 2008?

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Originally Posted by frostwolf ex

EDIT: ok I forgot devil may cry 4, that one looks really good and may sell some systems, but still, will it be enough to gain momentume and developer loyalty?

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DMC, MGS2, and FFX were what pushed me to get a PS2, but i got it about 2 years after its launch.

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

I just don't see Sony having the kind of success they enjoyed during PS1/2 days. The price point is too high, there will be far and few exclusive games that are worth playing. Online is a step behind Microsoft. Japan is enamored with Nintendo so you know where the j-devs will go (see Dragon Quest on DS), so goes the japanese market.

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I don't argue with any of that. The problem is that they could sell half as many PS3s as they did PS2s and still stay #1. Remember, the PS2 was the best selling system ever.

I can't believe I am getting Pilot Wings, Nintendogs, and Animal Crossing as Nintendo's big hits for 2008.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Think farther into the future. Zelda is out. If Mario, Smash Bros., and Metroid make 2007, what the hell is going to make 2008?

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You gotta figure that Nintendo has quite a few games up its sleeve that haven't been announced yet: Mario Kart, 10 more Mario Party games, various Mario sports titles, F-Zero, Pilot Wings, Kid Icarus?, Punch Out, another Zelda title, Starfox, another Wario platformer, perhaps another stab at a Donkey Kong Platformer (ie Donkey Kong Country)......and with these Virtual Console releases you gotta imagaine that any franchise they haven't touched in the last decade is due for a sequel/re-make once its released on virtual console.

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Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid

You gotta figure that Nintendo has quite a few games up its sleeve that haven't been announced yet: Mario Kart, 10 more Mario Party games, various Mario sports titles, F-Zero, Pilot Wings, Kid Icarus?, another Zelda title, Starfox, another Wario platformer, perhaps another stab at a Donkey Kong Platformer (ie Donkey Kong Country)......and with these Virtual Console releases you gotta imagaine that any franchise they haven't touched in the last decade is due for a sequel/re-make once its released on virtual console.

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I feel like a VC whore, although i just own 5 VC games. Nintendo is re-profiting off my nostalga. Wii might be their chance to create new first party IPs? Besides Metriod and Brawl, i dont really know what to anticipate for it.

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Originally Posted by magnifiedplaid

Mario Kart, 10 more Mario Party games, various Mario sports titles, F-Zero, Pilot Wings, Kid Icarus?, Punch Out, another Zelda title, Starfox, another Wario platformer, perhaps another stab at a Donkey Kong Platformer (ie Donkey Kong Country)...

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No wonder there are complaints that the gaming industry no longer brings anything new to the table. :icepick:

Nintendo is saving the industry.

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Originally Posted by Nash

No wonder there are complaints that the gaming industry no longer brings anything new to the table. :icepick:

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haha...thats very true...but most of the newer Nintendo franchises since the days of the NES have been very disappointing to me: Pokemon, Pikmin, Nintendogs, Animal Crossing...etc. I don't really like any of those games.

EDIT - I know I have said this before, but everything will be great with the Wii as long as Nintendo give me my Luigi's Mansion sequel. The Cube game still beats the crap out of most of Nintendos big franchise games on the cube outside of Metroid Prime.

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Originally Posted by Bacon McShig

Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Sure, the amount of people willing to pay $40 for a new KOF may be small. But is it smaller than the amount of people who were willing to pay that for Virtua Quest, Under the Skin, or Finny the Fish? Doubtful. What does Sony have to gain by denying a game with a fairly dedicated fanbase, other than ill will?

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Once again, how is this a particular bias of Sony? How is the company that is second only to dead Sega hardware in allowing 2D games on consoles since the introduction of the 32-bit generation the cause and reason for a downward push on those games? You keep saying that Sony is against 2D but provide no evidence other than that not every 2D Japanese title is published in the US, which has been the case since the Japanese started making games. I fail to see how Sony pushing for games from previous generations of hardware to be bundled together means they've been actively working against 2D.

I suppose this means that Capcom must also hate 2D since they put out a collection of the NES Megaman games since they realized Americans wouldn't buy each game seperately for the PlayStation 2, GC, and Xbox (which, I might add, is what they did in Japan on the PS1)? Or remember how in a recent thread here about the remakes of Final Fantasy 1&2 coming to PSP people were upset that they would be sold seperately until they found out they would likely be bundled together when brought to America (which was exactly how it worked last time around)? Case in point. The Japanese will pay full price for stuff that Americans won't touch unless it's bundled together and sold for at most the price of just one over there.

So just because a couple games get denied while some shitty ones get through does not mean they have some intent to destroy 2D.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Think farther into the future. Zelda is out. If Mario, Smash Bros., and Metroid make 2007, what the hell is going to make 2008?

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Who knows? Their two biggest franchises on the DS are a simplified IQ test and PUPPIES PUPPIES PUPPIES. The old standbys are going to be on the Wii, of course, but what'll wind up actually pushing the system is anyone's guess at this point.