If you're talking to aren, it is listening to a seven year-old.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
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If you're talking to aren, it is listening to a seven year-old.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
Yeah, cause I'm 7. Right.
It's good to hear that the reasoning behind why the show sucks is because it's a metaphor for a boring board game.
Stop griping about filler, people. If the show was concentrated down to what was needed to explain everything and end the story from the conclusion of Season 5, it would be maybe 2 hours long total. This is a tv series, they've got 20-ish hours to fill. That's 18 hours of non-essential space to fill up, or 5 hours after you remove commercials.
James
I... Really? You've always seemed so level headed.
But let's take semantics out of the equation a NOT pretend that people griping about the show want an itemized list of answers presented in place of "What Kate Does" and its siblings. The filler in Lost has always been very obviously filler. It largely consists, most times, of a character or group of characters walking through the jungle, or even something as lame as giving Kate lines.
There can't be anyone reasonable who honestly thinks that they couldn't have just cut this shit in half, made season 5 a full, 24 ep run creating something a hell of a lot more productive and enjoyable.
The reason these guys are being hung out to dry is because for years they claimed that they had to put off the big things. So people expected, fairly, big things from season 6. As it stands, even 5 was MUCH better and no matter how great the last four episodes can be, it will still suck as a full season in the long run.
Why?
This shit is fucking boring. That's why. They always explained away their filler as being justified and a lot of people, not me but a lot, accepted it. Hell there is a short series of posts in this thread two, maybe three years old where some of the same people bitching here shot me down for saying the same things.
The Final Season comes along and more filler. Maybe more than ever. They're pissed. And since they had more faith in these guys than I ever did, they have even more of a right to be.
This show has some solid angles that have kept us watching for years. But it's becoming increasingly clear even to the formerly faithful that these guys had a very short list of plot points to hit and they've stretched it out for the bulk of a decade.
That's just kind of lame.
Someone point out a massive amount of nonsense in the flash sideways.
Ok, so think timeline. By looking at the Sun/Jin timeline it seems everything is taking place within a couple of days of the plane since they land, Jin gets the money taken, they sleep together, Jin gets taken by the gangsters, Sun tries to get money, comes back gets shot and goes to the hospital.
Ok, so we're looking at about 2 days.
Now in this timeframe Desmond goes through everything he did, including the car crash, hospitalization, deciding to reunite the losties, meeting Hugo and so on.
Now, that could be reasonable, until you get to the part where he hits Locke with a car. See Locke was at the school as a substitute teacher. Now we're to believe that Locke got back, got fired, moped, went to the agency, met Hugo, moped some more, decided to change his life around, got a job as a substitute teacher, started working gets hit by Desmond and goes to the hospital to be seen by the just shot Sun all in the course of 2 days.
Now that's not even assuming that Ben's stuff all happens prior to him getting hit, although it would make sense that it does since it didn't look like Locke'd be going back to teaching after that.
Seriously, they're just throwing shit against the wall at this point, and it's obvious if you even remotely think about it. Aren, please, try to defend this. I really need the lols.
What makes you say Locke got hit on the second day? Time could've past between when we saw him last in his flash sideways to when he got hit by Desmond. With no sense of how much time has past, I could easily say everything was spread out over several days.
But yeah, I get what you're saying. I think I read this somewhere else, laughed, and didn't think about it again. Seriously though, you're just trying to find reasons to hate on the show.
Because Sun is going into the hospital at the same time as Locke, and Sun's story most definitely takes place within the first two days.
And what I'm pointing out is what little regard the people making the show have for their audience when they'll waste our time with so much retarded shit and not even have it make any sense at all.
Throwing shit at a wall.
No, bbobb is right on this one. We can time this out because we've got a starting and ending point clearly marked by the events as various characters interact. Locke's storyline reasonably took at least two weeks, Desmond's maybe 2-3 days.
Curtis- I'm not saying that they shouldn't have dragged it out, just that they've got space to fill. I'm enjoying it quite a bit but then again this isn't Breaking Bad. It's got different standards, and the bar for this show dropped last season with the massive body-count that eventually became numbing rather than shocking. Lost is basically something I have a good time watching with friends, and a fun hour of tv, but I don't take it seriously.
James
That really is the most sensible way to look at it. I have a bad habit of holding things to the standard that their creators seem to want it to be held to. Lost's creators and the super faithful have always seemed to want the show to be taken super seriously. I just judge it by a higher standard than it deserves to be judged. At its best, it works. At its worst, eh... Well...