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15 Mar 2007, 02:40 AM
Joust Williams

wtf

How did this thread go from Achievements to talking about one of the worst FPSes in recent memory?
15 Mar 2007, 08:34 AM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtificial

I rented red steel to give it a try also. Its not as bad as you all make it out to be, if you stick with it and unlock some of the abilities, training area and other missions. The cinema's are butt ugly though.

This is true, based on my limited play time so far.

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

Red Steel is great, as long as you don't mind learning to play a FPS with a 3d mouse.

This is horse shit. Shocking I know.
15 Mar 2007, 11:09 AM
Zerodash

TMNT 1989 has an achievement called "Real Ultimate Power".
15 Mar 2007, 04:10 PM
Josh

We know.
15 Mar 2007, 04:13 PM
SpoDaddy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

This is horse shit. Shocking I know.

It's not the game's fault that you suck at it.
15 Mar 2007, 04:44 PM
Yoshi

You called Red Steel "great."
22 Apr 2007, 11:57 AM
Yoshi

I'm completely off the hook for my Eragon mistake, now that Mog and Melf have both played Cabela games for no reason other than achievements. Melf is a rare breed of Puerto Rican redneck if he claims otherwise, and Mog played Eragon and Cabela shit. Fuck Achievements. I've gone a month without any and couldn't be happier.
22 Apr 2007, 12:05 PM
SamuraiMoogle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

I'm completely off the hook for my Eragon mistake, now that Mog and Melf have both played Cabela games for no reason other than achievements. Melf is a rare breed of Puerto Rican redneck if he claims otherwise, and Mog played Eragon and Cabela shit. Fuck Achievements. I've gone a month without any and couldn't be happier.

You also forgot shit like, Superman, Sonic, Civil War, Lost Planet, Xmen, Fusion Frenzy 2, and Rapala Fishing. I'll give any piece of shit a try. At least I didnt pay for Burger King games.
Eh, my girlfriend works part time at a video store so I get everything for half off. She also just rents me the new games right away if I want them. I'd try most of the shit even without the achievements, totally wouldnt spend the amount of time with them I have though. I enjoy it.
22 Apr 2007, 12:12 PM
Yoshi

Superman is a perfect example of why I stopped "achieving". That game is way worse than Eragon.
22 Apr 2007, 12:15 PM
SamuraiMoogle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Superman is a perfect example of why I stopped "achieving". That game is way worse than Eragon.

If I can slog through it I'll do it. Pure shit like Sonic I wont even bother. Eragon was kinda entertaining playing through on Coop.
22 Apr 2007, 12:17 PM
Yoshi

Yep. And I did slog through it. I only wish I hadn't. There have been some good games that I never got around to playing, yet I finished Superman? I just couldn't live with that going forward.
22 Apr 2007, 12:24 PM
g0zen

Play good games for achievements, that what I do. I don't have as high a score as you or Melf, but I feel a lot less dirty about the collection of games that gave me my score.
22 Apr 2007, 12:34 PM
SamuraiMoogle

Theres a lot of games I had fun with that I probably wouldnt have played if not for achievements. 99 Nights, Kameo, Gun, Just Cause, King Kong, Tomb Raider, The Outfit, Marvel Ult, and especially Earth Defense Force. Not worth buying, but still worth a cheap rent.
22 Apr 2007, 12:35 PM
Nash

Superman Returns: The Video Game isn't that bad of a game. It's also not a great game for easy achievements, due to a few retarded ones (kitten finder, travel 10,000 miles, etc.).

I'm with Gozen when it comes to achievements. I'll go the extra mile to unlock achievements, but only for games I would actually play regardless of the achievements. Yes, that includes Superman Returns.
22 Apr 2007, 12:37 PM
Yoshi

If your standards are that low, you should have a shload more points.
22 Apr 2007, 12:43 PM
Nash

Well, the only reason I got into Superman Returns is because I'm a big Superman fan. I even have the crap Superman: The Man of Steel on Xbox (although, I would never touch Superman 64). Also, I should have more points but I don't have the time.
22 Apr 2007, 12:49 PM
Yoshi

The time is what is forcing me to look away too. If I still had 40 hours a week to play games, I could play everything good and get all the easy achivements from bad games, but I don't have that time anymore.
22 Apr 2007, 08:26 PM
Melf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

I'm completely off the hook for my Eragon mistake, now that Mog and Melf have both played Cabela games for no reason other than achievements. Melf is a rare breed of Puerto Rican redneck if he claims otherwise, and Mog played Eragon and Cabela shit. Fuck Achievements. I've gone a month without any and couldn't be happier.

I bought African Safari because I've been curious about it for the longest time. Yeah, it had easy achievement points, but I've been itching for something new to play, and it was cheap. It's actually pretty fun too, although the Dangerous Seven trophies on expert are a pain.

You've done more in worse games, so quit fronting.
22 Apr 2007, 08:51 PM
EvilMog

I only played Alaskan Adventures because I am a hunter and I have never played a hunting games. It was fucking crap. Note the pathetic gamerscore on that one. And as far as Rapala fishing goes I really enjoy fishing and have been getting pretty excited to got out again. The game had me interested and the only reason I kept playing the piece of shit was I w3anted to see what kind of fish I could go after next. Large Mouth Bass and Walleye FTW! No muskies though. LAME. And for the record whomever made Rapala fishing knows fucking shit about fishing besides what they maybe read in a magazine.

Those are the only 2 games I'm going to reason why I played. :D
22 Apr 2007, 08:53 PM
EvilMog

Melf, I heard African Safari was a lot better than Alaskan. You played them both? Alaskan had the worst gun physics EVER. EVER!
22 Apr 2007, 09:48 PM
Melf

I've never played the Alaskan one. I opted for the African Safari because hunting rhinos and elephants sounded cooler. It's a fun little game too. The graphics are decent enough, and the hunting is simple. Physics aren't really an issue, as things are more arcadey than sim-like. You have an adrenaline meter for when you're attacked by predators and your hunting sense (bullet-time) to make shooting easier.

It's a nice change of pace, since I've never played this type of game before.
23 Apr 2007, 12:15 AM
DougDaBroadcasta

Damn, what happened to this thread?

Back to the topic:

I'm a bit of an achievement point whore, since I've been out of work. I'm going back through games I didn't otherwise have time to play, and enjoying getting more out of them specifically because of the points involved. Gotta admit, it got me through the mess that was Phantasy Star Universe's one player game. But it got me 1,000, so I'm not gonna complain too much.
23 Apr 2007, 02:07 AM
Space Pirate Roberts

I enjoyed Superman Returns, it just needed more mission variety.
23 Apr 2007, 02:35 AM
Nash

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordPerrin

I enjoyed Superman Returns, it just needed more mission variety.

Yeah, I enjoyed it as well. I didn't mind the lack of variety in the missions, but I did mind the frequent mission encounters when I'm just trying to explore the city. I'm not sure how this could have been done differently, though. I guess they could have made it so that you had to fly into a floating icon to start missions, but that would sort of ruin the game's continuity. As is, your only opportunities of freedom to explore the city is before boss fights, when there are no mission encounters at all.
23 Apr 2007, 08:37 AM
haohmaru

While Civil War certainly isn't a great FPS, it is different. Reload times, archaic weapons, and, um, "history". I don't think it's a terrible game by any stretch, but if you're looking for halo/prey/etc..., then you need to skip this one.
23 Apr 2007, 10:43 AM
Melf

Civil War has piqued my curiosity as well. I've just been waiting to find a used copy or for it to drop in price new. I love the CW era, and this one might be fun.

What's the ambiance like? Does it try to be faithful to the era like the Call of Duty games, or is it more arcadey?
23 Apr 2007, 11:43 AM
haohmaru

I'll trade it to you when I'm done with it.

It tries to be faithful, but it's not nearly on a COD level.
23 Apr 2007, 11:48 AM
ElCapichan

I'm playing Meet the Robinsons, so I'd say I'm a whore. But I also checked it out because I have nothing else to play and have some time off this week.
23 Apr 2007, 02:11 PM
haohmaru

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Originally Posted by ElCapitan

I'm playing Meet the Robinsons, so I'd say I'm a whore. But I also checked it out because I have nothing else to play and have some time off this week.

I'm watching/helping my 8 year old play through this. It's awkward that you can't jump, but it's not terrible by any stretch and I don't think the achievements are whore-easy, either.
23 Apr 2007, 10:04 PM
youandwhosearmy

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Originally Posted by Stibbons

The Pacifist achievement in Geometry Wars is how it should be done. It's "survive for 60 seconds without shooting a bullet." It's something no one would have done without an achievement to push them to doing it.

Games are enhanced enormously by well-done achievements like that. The best achievement lists will have you doing shit you normally would have never done while also awarding you for playing a game to completion and helping you track your progress. When games like Madden give you hundreds of points for shit like getting a first down, it ruins everything.

You think Maddens retarded, try Fight Night Round 3.

Like you get 1000 points for playing career mode long enough to fight 12-15 people.

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Originally Posted by LordPerrin

I enjoyed Superman Returns, it just needed more mission variety.

Its the most fun demo ever I'll give you that. If they spent 1/8th of the time on the game and collision detection as they did on flying it would have been the best comic game ever.
23 Apr 2007, 10:17 PM
ElCapichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by haohmaru

I'm watching/helping my 8 year old play through this. It's awkward that you can't jump, but it's not terrible by any stretch and I don't think the achievements are whore-easy, either.

They aren't whore easy cause you have to go through some pretty massive levels to get some of the more major ones. I am actually enjoying the game, so its not all bad.
23 Apr 2007, 11:22 PM
Razor Ramon

Fight Night Round 3 is still a great boxing game. No matter if the achievements are stupid or not.
24 Apr 2007, 03:52 AM
Nirvana

Quote:

Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

Its the most fun demo ever I'll give you that. If they spent 1/8th of the time on the game and collision detection as they did on flying it would have been the best comic game ever.

IBTN
24 Apr 2007, 06:42 PM
bahn

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCapitan

They aren't whore easy cause you have to go through some pretty massive levels to get some of the more major ones. I am actually enjoying the game, so its not all bad.

Yeah it's decent; been playing it too.

May rent Civil War if I can find it this week and go back to Lego Star Wars just to finish up the levels I didn't get around to finishing. I am in no mood to find all those stupid Lego blocks though.
25 Apr 2007, 01:22 PM
haohmaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

You think Maddens retarded, try Fight Night Round 3.

Like you get 1000 points for playing career mode long enough to fight 12-15 people.

Somehow I fucked it up and never got to the last achievement before my fighter was too fucking old to fight anymore. I guess I should've played through on "easy".
27 Apr 2007, 04:17 AM
Opaque

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Ramon

Fight Night Round 3 is still a great boxing game. No matter if the achievements are stupid or not.

Those achievements rocked.

I rented the game, played it for a week, beat the shit out of some real looking mother fuckers and walked away with 1,000 points from completing the main game. What the fuck more could you ask for?
27 Apr 2007, 10:39 AM
haohmaru

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opaque

Those achievements rocked.

I rented the game, played it for a week, beat the shit out of some real looking mother fuckers and walked away with 1,000 points from completing the main game. What the fuck more could you ask for?

Opaque stalking today, I guess.

I liked Fight Night achievements, too. If it were done like Virtua Tennis 3, you'd have had to throw 5000 jabs, win 1000 fights, and complete dozens of mind-numbing mini-games to get your score into the 700's. Fuck that, FN3 does it right even if it could've been more difficult - especially given that you don't *have* to do a bunch of shit online that you don't feel like doing.
27 Apr 2007, 01:50 PM
Mzo

I play good games like I always have, and achievements are like icing. I love them.

I wish I was good enough to finish the Smash TV achievements =(
27 Apr 2007, 02:44 PM
jonas

I want to break 6000 GS soon, I'm at like 5905 or something like that! I've been playing Gun, because I got it for 4.99 and so far it's been pretty easy to play. It's kinda fun too, but very repetitive.
27 Apr 2007, 03:34 PM
Chux

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzo

I play good games like I always have, and achievements are like icing. I love them.

I wish I was good enough to finish the Smash TV achievements =(

Mzo, John, Myk and myself had a XBLA party one night, playing shit like TMNT, Doom and Uno. We also happened to get a lot of achievements.

That's how it should be, not a job.
27 Apr 2007, 03:46 PM
Mzo

If anything, Live keeping track of the games I play makes me stay away from shitty games, lest someone sees I've played some fucking Cabela game. I would die.
27 Apr 2007, 06:16 PM
Melf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mzo

If anything, Live keeping track of the games I play makes me stay away from shitty games, lest someone sees I've played some fucking Cabela game. I would die.

Have you played African Safari? It's nowhere near as bad as you might think.

Heh, I was hunting hippos today and my daughter came into the room.

"What are you playing dad, the animal game?"

"Yes Kimberly."

"Look! Hippos! I love hippos."

BLAM!

"Go back to the living room Kimberly."
27 Apr 2007, 06:37 PM
Rumpy

Hippos are mean SOBs. You were in the right.
27 Apr 2007, 06:45 PM
Nash

My housemate is really into Cabela's African Safari. I gave it a shot once, but just couldn't get into it. I like the premise, but the stiff controls and low production value were big turnoffs.
29 Apr 2007, 02:06 AM
jonas

I'm really digging Gun. If Activision spruced this title up for a sequel and added some more depth and polish, it would be amazing.

I love doing the marshall and bounty hunting missions. They are really fun! As well, the main story is actually pretty interesting with memorable quotes.

Hoodoo Brown:'I'm HOODOO BROOOOWNNNN!!'

*Gun guy shots him through window*

Gun dude:'You were'
29 Apr 2007, 02:15 AM
Joust Williams

I know I'll never forget that.
29 Apr 2007, 08:45 AM
Tommy Tallarico

Quote:

Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy

You think Maddens retarded, try Fight Night Round 3.

I got something like 600 points for simulating a couple of seasons in Live '06.

<3 EA.
30 Apr 2007, 11:07 PM
Geen

I love unlocking achievements; Seeing a list all checked off is awesome and the "Achievement Unlocked" ding is awesome. I could really careless about achievements that I think are crap, though, nor do I care about the overall score that's tied to your gamertag. This thread does have me more curious about the trophies in PS3's Home... It's just a shame that I don't think those are ever going to be as standard as the 360's achievement points, though.
01 May 2007, 02:27 AM
Compass

Quote:

Originally Posted by Geen

I love unlocking achievements; Seeing a list all checked off is awesome and the "Achievement
Unlocked" ding is awesome.

I feel the same. I don't know what it is. One thing that will always knock me off the fence if I'm hesitant about buying a game is seeing a screenshot of a partially filled grid, incomplete checklist, etc. I can't get enough.

But it's not as simple as that. Some developers come close, and then ultimately miss the mark, leaving me to believe that they really don't truly understand. Exit PSP is a great example.

In Exit, you start with a big yellow grid representing all your incomplete levels. Every time you finish a level, the square changes color. Good, right? Well, kinda, but not nearly as satisfying as it could be. The square goes from yellow to... a slightly different shade of yellow. WTF. It needs to turn sparkly gold, or fill in with a green checkmark, or a flower, *something*, preferably with a brief animation and a pleasant sound effect. I strongly believe these little "gamey" things, if applied appropriately, can often add up and transform a good game into a great one.
12 May 2007, 07:19 PM
Nirvana

One that should have been an achievement: Clearing all the random crimes in each zone of Spidey 3. Bastard programers.
14 May 2007, 11:04 PM
EvilMog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nirvana

One that should have been an achievement: Clearing all the random crimes in each zone of Spidey 3. Bastard programers.

Yeah. Whats with that shit anyways? I some how managed 700 pts in Spidey. Thats enough.
28 Jul 2007, 09:23 PM
Compass

I've been playing lots of 360 and Wii (well, just Zelda) lately. And is it high-def graphics I miss the most when playing the Wii? No, it's Achievements.

I *really* like these little things. Seeing and hearing the trophy bubble pop up, and then checking my score and noting its new, slightly higher value is incredibly satisfying to me.

I think I'm still being healthy about it, though. I don't have any desire to pad my score by playing games I'd otherwise have no interest in. I am tempted however to try to get more achievements in games I liked, and "finished," but didn't get the full gamut of points (Tomb Raider and PacMan C.E. come to mind).

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