Ghost Squad (Finally!)

http://the-magicbox.com/0705/game070515b.shtml

HELL YES. :D I dunno what took so long, but here is Ghost Squad on a console. You use the Wii remote to defuse the time bombs, disarm landmines, etc.

Thanks Sega. You finally made me want the Wii. Now we need a 3rd party to release a big green gun with internal recoil like the one on the arcade unit. I doubt it'll be much longer before Virtua Cop 3 is announced.

Too bad a lot of GS arcade cabs lack the card readers, but at least this console version should fix that problem and enable you to play Mission Levels 5-16.

It looks underwhelming. Hopefully it'll be fun and control well.

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Originally Posted by gameoverDude

Now we need a 3rd party to release a big green gun with internal recoil like the one on the arcade unit.

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That would kind of defeat the purpose of porting the game to a console with a pointing device. If they were planning on having light gun support, Sega probably would have made this a 360 game.

I'd love to see a two-pack on Wii of Gunblade NY and LA Machineguns. And as long as I'm working on wishful thinking, Jambo Safari too.

James

I wish the VC had a better selection of light-gun games. They're the only ones I can't properly emulate on my computer.

There are no ghosts in this game. Disappointing. :(

Perfect port of the first HotD pls. I've been wanting that forever. I have the Saturn one but it's not the same.

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Originally Posted by kedawa

It looks underwhelming. Hopefully it'll be fun and control well.That would kind of defeat the purpose of porting the game to a console with a pointing device. If they were planning on having light gun support, Sega probably would have made this a 360 game.

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It may look a little dated (it's a Chihiro game rather than Lindbergh, which suits it well for the Wii's graphic power), but I'd say the fun is surely there. I'm not sure if you can get a good rate of fire with the original Wiimote trigger, so I'd say a Wii gun will likely happen.

First Time Crisis 4 comes to PS3, now this- Double joy. :) :)

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Originally Posted by James

I'd love to see a two-pack on Wii of Gunblade NY and LA Machineguns.

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That would be a DAY ONE purchase for sure. LA Machineguns is sooo good.

Because this is a Wiimote and not a gun, it'll be stupid. You won't aim at the screen, you'll just aim RELATIVE TO the screen. Huge difference. I suppose if it has some insane calibration setup (what's the exact dimensions of your TV, put the wiimote on a surface exactly in the center 8 feet away, etc)...but still. Dumb. The arcade game is fun though.

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Originally Posted by Joust Williams

Because this is a Wiimote and not a gun, it'll be stupid. You won't aim at the screen, you'll just aim RELATIVE TO the screen. Huge difference. I suppose if it has some insane calibration setup (what's the exact dimensions of your TV, put the wiimote on a surface exactly in the center 8 feet away, etc)...but still. Dumb. The arcade game is fun though.

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Or it will just show your cursor on the screen and you won't have to calibrate anything. That's what I'm assuming, and why I doubt a lightgun would be released for it.

"Or it will just show your cursor on the screen and you won't have to calibrate anything"

No, I agree with you. I am sure that is how it will work. And that's why it will suck. It's closer to playing with a controller than with a gun. You aren't aiming at anything.

So? Have you played Gunblade NY? Having played both Gunblade and Elebits, I can assure you the feeling is identical apart from having a giant plastic gun mounted to the unit. I wouldn't want to do Time Crisis on Wii, but for something like LA Machineguns it would work just fine.

James

Ghost Squad isn't something like LA Machine Guns.

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Originally Posted by bbobb

Ghost Squad isn't something like LA Machine Guns.

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Exactly. Having an on-screen cursor doesn't lend it self to the "ghost" part.

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Originally Posted by James

So? Have you played Gunblade NY? Having played both Gunblade and Elebits, I can assure you the feeling is identical apart from having a giant plastic gun mounted to the unit. I wouldn't want to do Time Crisis on Wii, but for something like LA Machineguns it would work just fine.

James

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It probably would, esp. when you can just hold down the trigger & keep firing.

But surely, Sega will find a way to make the Wiimote work for GS. Hopefully this goes cross-platform sometime and a graphically kicked up PS3 version comes out so it can be played with the Time Crisis 4 gun.

Other than the sniper scenes (where you need the dot cursor IMO) or the special events, I don't want any sort of cursor in this version. If there is one, hopefully it can be disabled.

Time to kick this thread, now that GS is out here.

I have the Japanese version, since I said fuck it and got an import Wii rather than dicking around with the crazy prices on US systems. You CAN kill the cursor from the pregame Customize menu. Just be sure to go to Options and calibrate.

On the Wii GS, every Mission Level up to 16 can be unlocked for each Mission- it has the save system found on the card-reader equipped version, not this level 1-4 limitation. All the weapons and alternate outfits are there, and the graphics are pretty close if not outright perfect. The Wiimote does simulate recoil fairly well, especially when you're using the heavier machine guns.

All we need now is a replica gun based on the big green monster you find on the arcade unit, even if it's a bit smaller- and maybe an alternate sensor setup for the Wii that mimics Time Crisis 4's Guncon 3 rig, where you can spread the two IR sensors based on your TV size.

So how's the accuracy, especially compared to Guncon 3?

Are the Ninja and the Panda from Evolution in the game?

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

So how's the accuracy, especially compared to Guncon 3?

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Never used the GunCon 3 (not out here yet) but it works well in this game. It's just sad that Sega outsourced this one, I really expected that the Wii could do XBOX level visuals....other than that, it's what I wanted. Now, we just need the other gun games which lack ports....

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

So how's the accuracy, especially compared to Guncon 3?

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Accuracy isn't bad with a good calibration. If you've got a larger TV set you may have to stand back quite a bit (hence my wish for a Guncon 3 type split sensor). When you're too close, you won't be able to shoot the calibration targets.

I have to back up some from my 35" set to play it. It seems to me that Nintendo made their Wii sensor bar with maybe a 25" set in mind. Once Time Crisis 4 arrives, I may try letting my PS3 run at the same time to power the Guncon 3 IR LED things to use them instead of the Wii sensor bar. I can imagine this working.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

Are the Ninja and the Panda from Evolution in the game?

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Yes on both.

This is a pretty damn nice game. I'm glad I picked it up even with Time Crisis 4. In fact, I think both are quality games and must owns for light gun game fans. The Wii Zapper isn't terrible, it's just cheaply (not poorly) made, and I'd definitely rather use the Guncon 3 for Ghost Squad, though I do like that the Wii Zapper is naturally wireless. You can play fine without the Zapper, but I just need to hold a gun for these games. I haven't played Link's Crossbow training yet, so I can't comment on it.

It's too bad about no widescreen, however. Otherwise, the Wii Zapper is just as accurate for me as the Guncon 3 has been for Time Crisis 4 at 8-10 feet away.

this game is cool, ive played through it 3 or 4 times on diff modes choosing alternate paths

i dig the zapper too, but its giving me carpal tunnel.the front grip is just too akward for my hand :(

Heard on GAF this is in the bargin bin already at Target for $10. Those of you who don't have it might want to look into it. I'm lovin' it myself. But I played HoD2 obsessively on DC. I'm still getting owned by all the boss battles. I'm convinced missions 1 + 3 have to have 2 pls to beat the bosses.

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Originally Posted by D_N_G

i dig the zapper too, but its giving me carpal tunnel.the front grip is just too akward for my hand :(

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Use control setting 3. It sets the nunchuck Z button to shoot, and the front trigger to the action button. It works great, and makes the zapper feel much more like a gun.

Great game.

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Originally Posted by Beefy Hits

Heard on GAF this is in the bargin bin already at Target for $10. Those of you who don't have it might want to look into it. I'm lovin' it myself. But I played HoD2 obsessively on DC. I'm still getting owned by all the boss battles. I'm convinced missions 1 + 3 have to have 2 pls to beat the bosses.

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I can't believe this would be hitting the bargain bin for $10. Watch secondhand copies of GS probably go up in price later though.

Boss battle 1 is easy- just don't worry about your team mates in this one. The 2nd mission boss battle is toughest since you have to take him with a single shot. The 3rd boss is not as hard as he seems. Shoot for his head & keep spamming grenades.

Oh yeah, 3rd party gun for the Wii pls.

I have trouble even getting to the 3rd boss. I just don't have enough time to take down the ship.

After not being able to play Time Crisis 4 since I dont have a PS3, this game was actually a nice surprise. It plays much better than I thought it would. I didnt have a problem at all shooting accurately. I do want that new perfect shot gun, but the zapper really isnt that bad. The zapper does make the game control better than just using the wiimote by itself.

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

I have trouble even getting to the 3rd boss. I just don't have enough time to take down the ship.

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Ship? What are you talking about?

Damn 10 bucks at target? I need to head there tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

Damn 10 bucks at target? I need to head there tomorrow.

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IBTN.

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Originally Posted by SamuraiMoogle

Ship? What are you talking about?

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The gunboat where you have to shoot the panels off before you can take down the soldiers.

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

The gunboat where you have to shoot the panels off before you can take down the soldiers.

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I was thinking a big ass ocean ship, not a little boat.

The arcade game was fantastic. I really like the firing-mode switch.

Is it me or does it take forever to earn new weapons? Also, whats the point of using the pistols? They seem pretty useless.

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Originally Posted by SamuraiMoogle

I was thinking a big ass ocean ship, not a little boat.

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Sorry, ESL :D

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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv

Damn 10 bucks at target? I need to head there tomorrow.

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My Target had the game, but it was at regular price. Bastards.

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Is it me or does it take forever to earn new weapons? Also, whats the point of using the pistols? They seem pretty useless.

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Some pistols can penetrate well, giving you the ability to Double Down if a couple enemies get lined up.

Pistols may be better for going through certain parts of Mission 1 that are rife with hostages. When you're at the three door area in the Grand Villa, you should choose the "Wipe out enemy & gain control" room if using a shotgun since this room has ZERO hostages. The other two have plenty of hostages and are better suited to a pistol or MG.

The M4E shotgun really rakes in the Double Downs, but it's hella hard to do the 2 Body 1 Head combo with it since AFAIR limb hits don't count as body shots.

Went to Target today and it was full price. GAF lied!

I know. I might get it anyway, I'm really itching for a light gun game right now. It just sucks ass that I can't find the Nyko Perfect Shot anywhere, but I might pick up a Zapper anyway since it's only $20. Link's Crossbow Training is probably worth that by itself.

I ordered a Nyko Perfect Shot from Ebay (seems like the only place that you can get it right now). Without the peripheral, it feels too much like playing a gun game with a mouse (which it is).

KOF: Have you been playing with the Zapper or regular Wiimote?

You have to let us know how well the Perfect Shot works, although I would imagine that you can't go wrong with it, if the IGN review is to be believed.

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Originally Posted by GohanX

KOF: Have you been playing with the Zapper or regular Wiimote?

You have to let us know how well the Perfect Shot works, although I would imagine that you can't go wrong with it, if the IGN review is to be believed.

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I have been playing it with Wiimote. I can't stand the ugly Zapper, and Crossbow training looks retarded.

YOU look retarded.

That's why I hump you from behind.

kthx

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Originally Posted by Beefy Hits

Went to Target today and it was full price. GAF lied!

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YMMV!

You Mauled My Vagina? :D

Definitely check your local Target stores on this one. I was at Target with the wife today so I decided to go check on this to see if I could score. It was on an end cap clearly labeled 30 bucks.

I took it to the register and asked them to scan it and nothing would come up no matter which way they scanned it. The one guy conversed with the other stating it isn't a full priced game so they both agreed that pulling the phrase "20 bucks" out of the air would be good. It wasn't the 10 bucks I hoped to hear but it was 10 bucks off of the regular price just because of the scanning issue. Good luck bitches.

Finally beat that 3rd boss. Make sure you keep shooting him every chance you get and try to hit him with grenades.

Called everywhere, and nobody knows about Perfect Shot. Found it new on Amazon for $10. Now I just have to wait 15 days to get it if any of my other Amazon deals are any indication.

Interested in LCT, but don't want that ugly-ass zapper, so I've got a bid on a loose copy for an ebay max at $10. It's at $5.50 now with one day to go. I better cross my fingers.

I picked up Ghost Squad and a Zapper yesterday. The game is much better than I had though. It's a Sega light gun game, so you pretty much know what to expect, but I do think it's better than the Virtua Cop games, though it's not as good as HOTD 2.

I thought I would hate the Zapper, but I'm actually enjoying it. The way that I sit on my chair, I can rest the back part against my chest so my arm doesn't get tired after long play sessions. It also seems well suited to Ghost Squad in particular. I still plan on getting a perfect shot though.

FYI, the Franky's in Durham has the real Ghost Quad with the kickass assault rifles.

Really? I didn't know that. I have a Franky's card with some cash on it I think. I go up there with some buds once in a while and terrorize the go kart track, I am King of the Shamrock.

I played one quick game with the Perfect Shot, and it makes this game alot better. I was able to shoot more accurately and get to the 3rd boss on my first try. The Perfect Shot is awesome, I will probably get another.

That's really good news. I have 2 Perfect Shot guns on their way and I won't open GS until they get here.

kingoffighters & Glass Joe- Thanks for the heads up on the Perfect Shot. I'll have to get one, esp. since I read that the trigger on the PS is better than the one on the Wii Zapper. A few times, I've had the Wii Zapper trigger jam up and fire a couple unwanted extra shots- putting a slight ding against my accuracy.

Losing accuracy can suck big time, especially if you end up in the lower bracket and get only a few thousand. Great accuracy can get you a few ten-thousands (i.e. 30K-40K).

After the ingame calibration, I was shooting the lights out with PS. And no problem with the trigger at all and you can still install the nunchuck with this accessory, but you just have to hold it with your other hand (which is not a problem with the PS being so compact and gunlike).

In Mission 3, when you're at the three huts getting ready to save Steve McCoy: You may NOT want to choose the hut where the smoke is coming from- you save Steve if you go there but it's not counted as an Event.

Pick one of the other two, and if it turns out to be the right one- there's a Hand-to-Hand combat event, so you can double the Event Clear bonus once more. The other hut has a zonk prize- 2 soldiers to gun down, one hostage, and no Event. I finished M3 with 80,000 for the Event Clear Bonus (find and pass all 5 events in a mission).

This last time, I got about 712K for the game using mission levels 4/4/4 and the M4E (A good one if you like a lot of Double Downs).

I received the Nyko Perfect shot from an Amazon seller today, here are my impressions:

The feel of it is nice and lightweight. Not having wires is a huge plus. Also, the Wii's vibration gives it a nice recoil effect, much better than you feel with the Zapper. The only downside is that the grip is a little wide for my hand, and the handle isn't contoured all that well, so it's not as comfortable as my Guncon 1. It is lighter, however, so it doesn't tire the hand as easily.

I played some Ghost Squad with it, and it actually took some getting used to since I have been using the Wii zapper so much. With the zapper I pretty much aimed with the reticle, not with the gun. With the Perfect Shot you can aim like a true gun again ignoring the reticle. If you had never played it with a wiimote/zapper, this probably would be a non-issue. With the reticle turned off I still can't play as well as I can with it on, but using a weapon with semi-auto fire helps the aiming quite a bit.

The only thing that the Zapper still excels at is comfort to me. The handle is smaller for my little girl hands, and you can rest it like a stock against your chest/shoulder for extended game sessions to keep your hand from tiring. For individual games though, I'll definately use the Perfect Shot as my weapon of choice for its speed and accuracy.

I can't wait to use this thing with HOTD2. I can pick up another Perfect Shot and finally be able to play it with two guns at once at home.

On the topic of Ghost Squad itself, do you ever get tired of the game? I'm not sure what it is, but I've played it constantly for a week and never seem to tire of it. I've already played it more than any other gun game I have, with the exception of HOTD2 in the arcade.

I haven't played my copy of Ghost Squad yet but I've used the Perfect Shot with Resident Evil:UC and I know what you are talking about. I have pretty large hands and the grip on the Perfect Shot is surprisingly large. I'm not even sure how my wife can use it since she has tiny hands. I do think it is excellent though and anyone interested should definitely get one.

My Perfect Shot is on the way and should arrive Monday/Tuesday-ish, at which point I'll finally open my copy of Ghost Squad. I haven't done anything light-gun-ish in well over a year, so I'm looking forward to it.

James

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My Perfect Shot is on the way and should arrive Monday/Tuesday-ish, at which point I'll finally open my copy of Ghost Squad. I haven't done anything light-gun-ish in well over a year, so I'm looking forward to it.

James

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Make sure you do the ingame calibration in GS, it makes a huge difference in accuracy.

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Originally Posted by kingoffighters

Make sure you do the ingame calibration in GS, it makes a huge difference in accuracy.

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QFT. If you don't, you'll be getting 4900 or less for accuracy bonus. Getting 4900 really bites, because one more percent would mean you could've had 10000.

Watch it with the fully automatic fire on the SAW25 during the boss battle in mission 3. If you spam, you pay dearly. When the soldiers pop up from behind the broken shields- try not to miss. This is one point where an iron sight would be helpful. I need to work on this some more- I can get 30K-40K for accuracy on the other two missions, but usually that falls to 11K here.

No gun today. Damn it. :(

Back to popping off non-zombie heads in RE4 for me.

James