Former Terrorist Calls Out Islam and Western "Progressives" for Enabling Terrorism

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

He's certainly no worse than we are (again, not excusing what he does - I just don't excuse us either).

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You're one of those. What a shock.

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

Because he doesn't have to; they're not opposing his movement with any force and they unknowingly help him launder money in the case of the Swiss. Once he topples the United States, Britain, and Israel everything else will fall into place according to his stated plan for global Islam.

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You heard it here first folks, the three countries standing against Islam are the US, Britain, and Israel. Yep, take out those three and the world is doomed to women wearing head scarves.

Why should I hide my head to the things we do that are evil? Not everything we do/have done was a good idea and carried out for th right reason. Why would I just act shocked when people don't like us? What kind of person are you?

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

He's certainly no worse than we are (again, not excusing what he does - I just don't excuse us either).

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Nah, I'd say he's worse then us, he specifically targets civillians. We just don't give a shit if civilians die as collateral damage, or at the hands of the people we support.

So yeah, he's worse then us, but we're pretty shitty too.

I don't mean us in the sense of right now - more us-over-the-last-40-years.

I do agree though, we need to get rid of Islam,

and christianity,

and every other religion that has been the cause of the deaths of millions and millions of people.

It's a nice dream world to live in ain't it.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

I don't mean us in the sense of right now - more us-over-the-last-40-years.

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Still, in the last 40 years we never specifically "targeted" civilians.

We just did plenty to aid in their deaths.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

Why should I hide my head to the things we do that are evil? Not everything we do/have done was a good idea and carried out for th right reason. Why would I just act shocked when people don't like us? What kind of person are you?

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You shouldn't hide your head about the things we get wrong, but to say that because we do sometimes get things wrong despite our best efforts that we are just as bad as Osama Bin Laden is just plain silly.

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Originally Posted by bbobb

Still, in the last 40 years we never specifically "targeted" civilians.

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You are correct. There's also the fact that we operate under a flag and fight as lawful combatants, openly bearing arms with uniform and rank clearly displayed.

Some of the things people have done in this country's name are indefensible - I'm not going to say we're bad all the time, but if we were to weigh the suffering, I'd say it's teetering close to even at this point (what with us destabilizing a whole region even more...)

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Originally Posted by SpoDaddy

You shouldn't hide your head about the things we get wrong, but to say that because we do sometimes get things wrong despite our best efforts that we are just as bad as Osama Bin Laden is just plain silly.

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See the problem is you say things like our "best efforts".

We do shit wrong just because we're super powers and feel like everything we do is right. Ask Latin America about how we were working in our best efforts to do things right for them.

Seriously, we're the big bully of the world, there's no denying that. We do things in our interest, not in the worlds.