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Originally Posted by Yoshi
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Not being hired for jobs isn't enough for you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
LOL, yeah, this ivory tower is inpenetrable. All debts come to pass. Just as you wouldn't hold onto a stock that constantly loses value, the countries that are buying all this debt from us aren't going to sit on a losing proposition ad infinitum. That either means them cutting and running which would mean extreme, nigh-cataclysmic devaluation of the dollar, or the US basically becoming a lapdog to appease the holders from doing the former.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
May not come to pass anytime soon, but leaving it unchecked and ever-worsening ensures it can and will happen.
Well, I think the way it works here in Canada is that hospitals/doctors' offices are privately run but the government covers the cost for the patient. Some countries have a fully socialized system where doctors are government employees.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr-K
Anyway, universal healthcare is the only ethical way to go as far as I'm concerned. I live under it. It works. I would probably be screwed with debt without it given my chronic health problems. Having a US-like dental system here is annoying enough.
Just because you can't afford medical costs, that doesn't make you a "burden on society" but I agree with Yoshi on smokers and the like. If someone gives himself lung cancer, then I don't think they should be covered for treating that. Still, because of grey area and I assume avoiding court bullshit, the government here doesn't take into consideration stuff like that.
Yoshi's just against fun.
Also, I don't want any of my money going to cops. They can DIAF as far as I'm concerned.
While most cops are assholes, they're a necessary part of society. I won't want to eliminate the police because of the few clashes I've had with them.
This is probably his greatest achievement -- beyond that of ushering in the age of fair immigration, ending Bin Laden's Al Qaeda, and liberating the Iraqi people --- with everything he's led, Arbusto, Spectrum, Harken, The Rangers*, The State of Texas, and the US, he’s managed to leave them all in the red.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
*Ok The Rangers still made a profit, but they didn’t win any pennants.
Looks like you're voting for Dennis Kucinich, thenQuote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
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Originally Posted by icarusfall
No, he's just never found himself in a position where he couldn't pay for his own health care. Should that ever happen, you'll hear him change his tune right quick. ;)
Shit, even PR has universal health care, and we're twice as poor as Mississippi. I had for a few years, while I was part-timing at the university, and let me tell you that without it, I'd be up to my eyeballs in debt. My daughter was hospitalized for nine days when she was 2 months old, and that would have cost me at least $7 grand had I not had the universal health coverage.
Maybe those who argue against this should try paying cash the next time they're hospitalized, so they can see what those who can't afford a private plan have to put up with every time a medical emergency comes up.
Contrary to what you might believe, there are plenty of working class people in the U.S. who can't afford health coverage. Like I said, try paying cash the next time you're at the emergency room. You have no idea what you're talking about unless you've been there, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
plus if everyone has health care, they'll be more apt to go to routine physicals. Maintenance and preventive care is always cheaper than emergency calls and surgery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melf
i.e. 5 years of oil and lube at $1,800 vs. replacing a blown engine at $3,000 – $5,000.
france also has a near 50% tax rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gas