Umm, the core rate alone rose last month, and that's a manipulated number to begin with. The actual inflation is much higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destin
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Umm, the core rate alone rose last month, and that's a manipulated number to begin with. The actual inflation is much higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destin
After seeing some of the counterpoints presented by michael moore in sicko i can see its not if we need this system its when and how.
I dont see a reform of this scale happening anytime in the future. The companys control so much money and have so much power in all forms of the nation that it takes more than a strong leader with a vision to change this.
It takes changing the way the government works. We, as a united people, can overthrow the government we help put into power in the first place.
Who's with me?
I have it in me.
We're not churning them out because hospitals are running in the red left and right, it's not the steady, guaranteed job it used to be (and should be). Litigation and uninsured patients are decimating the private healthcare sector.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tenchimo Dos
Here's an article on an extremely well-respected hospital near me that's pretty much running on fumes. If you think this situation is indicitive of an industry model that's working, I just don't know what to say to you.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18598633/site/newsweek/
Sicko is good for pointing out what's wrong with the current system but it's completely worthless when it comes to solving the problem (it portrays Canadian health care as the holy grail).Quote:
Originally Posted by nocturne
I can't even use the sniper rifle in Gears, I don't think I have it in me to overthrow the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Socialized health care has a huge impact on company bottom lines too. General Motors spends more on health than steel per car. They sell as much (sometimes more) as Toyota yet Toyota is like 60 times more profitable because they don't have enormous legacy costs due to better socialization.
One of the most relieving things of my job is that I can insure my wife and kid. I used to lose sleep wondering what would happen to us if there was a car crash or something like that after I graduated before I got my job.
With socialized medicine (which yes, has problems) these and MANY other hideous problems would have far less impact. I read in a book recently (Lee Iaccoca's book) that the money blown in Iraq could have given the entirety of America high level health care for a considerable amount of time.
The way America is now I'm surprised hospitals haven't set up an Ebay account and give service to the highest bidder.
The shortage of doctors and nurses is directly applicable to the diminished returns a doctor gets after 7+ years of increasingly expensive schooling. Being a doctor now is almost becoming a sheer hassle and it's showing bad by how few of them we have (especially in Florida).
I just want to know when America became so "fuck you I'll watch out for myself"?
Canadian Health Care isn't perfect. It needs to be reworked. But I'd still rather have it than the American system.
As far as the ruptured appendix story goes, my brother was in the emergency room recently, and had been seen briefly by a nurse, who determined he wasn't a priority. Sometime later he began having breathing problems, and was in danger of suffocating. My mother who was nearby got the attention of the nurses and they got him into surgery. You could look at the situation as the nurse nearly killed him because she misjudged his condition, but the truth is she was doing her job, and in her estimation his condition wasn't as bad at the time as some of the other people who were in line for service. It's called triage, and it's what nurses do. His condition worsened and he was taken care of.
The problem with Canada's health care system right now is a lack of doctors. I live in a city that is starving for doctors. They could remake Northern Exposure and set it in my town and it wouldn't be at all surprising. The lack of general physicians is causing people to go to the Emergency ward for things like common colds etc, forcing the wait times for more serious injuries like sprains and broken fingers or whatever to rise. Life threatening still gets immediate response, but nurses are human and can make mistakes too.
There is a desire in the medical community to be allowed to open private clinics to treat various injuries and do CAT scans etc, and to allow people to pay for immediate access, but to many people that creates multiple tiers of care, for have and have not, and so some are just opposed to that on principal.
Two tier health care models are the best options as long as they are organized in a copacetic atmosphere (the private helps fun the universal, the universal helps supply doctors to the private).