Official PlayStation 3 Thread 3: Rise of the Machines

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

Okay.. so which games did I over-rate? Let's see a list. Because, I mean, you're lumping up every staff member of Play as a whole here, so let's see what you've got on me.

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I'm not saying you personally overrate games, I am saying as a whole, Play as a publication overrates a large number of games. All of the people who work for your magazine are representing Play as a publication, and not their individual selves.

Granted someone can choose to ignore reviews by specific people, that isn't how the average person who read the reviews (or simply view the scores) see them. For instance, when Play reviews are posted on message boards they aren't posted as "Bob Jimbo reviewed these games ::list scores::, shidoshi reviewed these games ::list scores::, Brand X reviewed these games ::list scores::", it is simply "Play reviews ::list scores::".

If the magazine was called "shidoshi", and you were the only person reviewing for the magazine, then yes, I would be wrong, but that isn't the case. There are a large number of reviews, regardless of who did the reviewing, that good/great scores were given to games that were simply marginal.

Of course reviews are subjective, but to sit there and give a game a 9 because the reviewer had "fun" with it without addressing the large number of other factors that go into reviewing a game is doing a disservice to all of the games that DO deserve those high scores.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

And the problem I have is that you're stating (as if it's fact) that Play's staff members give a particular score because of the hype behind a game, and I'm telling you that that is not true.

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I never said they rate the games highly because of the hype, I said they tend to rate games with a lot of hype highly. Which is absolutely true.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

You're saying that knowing a person personally doesn't mean anything, yet you're stilling here making a judgement call about people you know nothing about, and simply cannot realistically make without knowing the person personally.

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I am not making any judgment calls about any single person. I am making a judgment call about the publication, and I am absolutely allowed to do so. And if you read some other peoples opinions about Play, you would see that I'm not the only one who thinks this.

Come on, in what universe can Odin Sphere or Motorstorm ever be considered a 10? Aside from the more 'opinion' related problems, there's the crippling slowdown that infests too many stages in OS. While Motorstorm is like a content desert. I've played arcade racers that had more content. Giving them 10s kills the whole concept of review scores. You might as well give a 10 to every game that's ever shown in Play. Why it's done, I have no idea, nor do I really care, but it does mean that any review score from Play is worthless to me.

Why are people still talking about Play after all these years? It's a piece of garbage.

this whole argument goes to show why i READ reviews and don't even look at the scores.

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Originally Posted by Dyne

this whole argument goes to show why i READ reviews and don't even look at the scores.

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You guys are arguing over a difference of opinion? Fuck the god damn score, if you enjoyed it then GOOD! If you didn't then GOOD! Get over it! Sound like fucking Protestants and Catholics... "My opinion is right!" "No, my opinion is right!" Makes for good web browsing.

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Originally Posted by shidoshi

YOU don't think those games deserved the scores that they got; but, since they did get those scores, obviously somebody did.

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Odin Sphere not deserving a 10 is a fact in the land of opinions.

What the hell happened, shidoshi? These are the same comments posters here have been making about the publication for years, but lately you seem to be taking criticism about Play as a whole as though they're direct insults aimed at specific staff members.

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Originally Posted by Daitokuji

You guys are arguing over a difference of opinion? Fuck the god damn score, if you enjoyed it then GOOD! If you didn't then GOOD! Get over it! Sound like fucking Protestants and Catholics... "My opinion is right!" "No, my opinion is right!" Makes for good web browsing.

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Maybe you should read the argument before trying to bitch about it so you have some idea what you're talking about. Also, if you're just looking for just a single statement they now have websites which have previews and reviews on them, as opposed to a discussion forum.

I like how as of late people are complaining that differing viewpoints shouldn't be brought up. Something kinda funny about that.

Is there any reason to buy a PS3 yet? Is there still just Resistance Man

Yes, no, maybe, hotdog, hotdog.

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Originally Posted by jonas

Is there still just Resistance Man

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Resistance Man, Resistance Man
Does whatever a resistance can