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15 Aug 2007, 10:40 PM
NeoZeedeater

Borderlands

http://www.shacknews.com/images/gene...ext_cov640.jpg
"Diablo meets Mad Max" sounds cool to me. It's an FPS/RPG from Gearbox.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/48458
16 Aug 2007, 01:46 AM
Nash

This game sounds wicked. Definitely going to keep an eye on it.
16 Aug 2007, 03:05 AM
bbobb

I'm intrigued.

I like Gearbox.
16 Aug 2007, 03:05 AM
Tain

Gearbox is cool these days. And I like that picture. :tu:
16 Aug 2007, 08:19 PM
bVork

Nice to see Gearbox doing something that isn't a WW2 FPS. I'll be keeping an eye on this.
16 Aug 2007, 08:23 PM
Dyne

2k games picked it up btw. (not sure if that was in the original link).

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/16/2k...s-new-shooter/
16 Apr 2009, 09:37 PM
bVork

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Looks like they fell in love with Prince of Persia's art style. Still, that's a lot better than the typical brown and gritty style that nearly everyone else using UE3 seems to go for.
16 Apr 2009, 09:45 PM
NeoZeedeater

I wasn't expecting that change but I approve, based on that pic anyway.
17 Apr 2009, 12:50 AM
Frogacuda

I don't love it, but I admit they're better off with a more distinctive style, especially given the thematic overlap with Rage.
18 Apr 2009, 10:58 AM
WhatsHisFace

I still don't know how this game is supposed to work. It had looked like a Halo clone up until this point, so I'm assuming that gameplay is still intact... but the mention of RPG elements leaves me hopeful that this will be like an extension of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
18 Apr 2009, 12:45 PM
Rumpy

The characters remind me of Rock Bands' style.
18 Apr 2009, 01:06 PM
Yoshi

Or lack thereof.
18 Apr 2009, 02:02 PM
Rumpy

I like the look and art style of RB a lot more than Guitar Hero.
18 Apr 2009, 02:04 PM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhatsHisFace

I still don't know how this game is supposed to work. It had looked like a Halo clone up until this point, so I'm assuming that gameplay is still intact... but the mention of RPG elements leaves me hopeful that this will be like an extension of S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

It's a lot more Diablo. The open part of the world acts as a hub where you can go to towns, run into raiders, etc. From there, you hit fairly linear locations with their own little missions. It's also a bit like Stranger's Wrath in setup.
18 Apr 2009, 05:52 PM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rumpy

I like the look and art style of RB a lot more than Guitar Hero.

Do you like firm, brown poo better than loose, green poo too? The art direction in both is awful.
18 Apr 2009, 09:24 PM
Rumpy

I don't agree. GH is stuck with what Harmonix started and RB has cleaned up since. Presentation is a lot more pleasing in RB, character, art, menu and stage design.
17 Oct 2009, 03:13 PM
Chux

Hey, this comes out soon!
17 Oct 2009, 03:27 PM
Bacon McShig

Yeah, I'm hyped for it. d1 coop 4u2c?
17 Oct 2009, 03:29 PM
Chux

I'm getting it tonight, faggot. :)
17 Oct 2009, 03:32 PM
Bacon McShig

oh well fuck you mr. jump-the-gunderson
17 Oct 2009, 03:39 PM
Chux

I WILL HAVE MORE LEVALS THAN YOU AND BETTER GUNS. 65k SKRUNDLES PER POLYGON
17 Oct 2009, 04:51 PM
Uriel

I haven't looked into this game much but I did listen to the latest episode of Idle Thumbs and they had very bad things to say about it.
17 Oct 2009, 05:07 PM
Cowutopia

Shit. I was going to buy it. Looks like I'll just relegate it to the gamefly list.
17 Oct 2009, 05:27 PM
AaronChance

Why form your own opinions when you can kinda hear about someone else possibly making them for you?
17 Oct 2009, 05:36 PM
Uriel

Why listen to what other people have to say about a game when you can spend $60 to find out if you like it?

Anyway it's one person's opinion. I'm sure you're all grown up enough to take that as you will. I'm not completely writing the game off yet but there were some big problems he talked about that go beyond personal taste.
17 Oct 2009, 06:02 PM
bVork

I saw a stream last night of this game. It went from a "seriously consider buying at launch" to "wait for reviews and buy on budget later." To me, Borderlands looked really really dull. The quests seemed to be typical MMO grindfest stuff, the open world seems to serve no real purpose, and the loot system seemed poorly designed. Clicking on each individual item to pick it up works in Diablo because all the loot is clustered together in one spot on the screen. That is not the case when you have to walk over and look at each item in an FPS.
17 Oct 2009, 06:05 PM
Bacon McShig

Well shit, I was hoping it would turn out well. Guess I'll wait.
17 Oct 2009, 06:18 PM
Cowutopia

Quote:

Originally Posted by Proto Man

Why listen to what other people have to say about a game when you can spend $60 to find out if you like it?

This.

Really good games generally have nearly unanimously positive or mostly positive reviews. I only buy really good games.
17 Oct 2009, 06:40 PM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

This.

Really good games generally have nearly unanimously positive or mostly positive reviews. I only buy really good games.

While I think that's a very silly approach, I wasn't being serious with my previous comment. Comments and videos of Borderlands have come off as very mixed so far, so there's nothing wrong with taking a bit of caution.

I personally don't care about playing 'really good' games, only interesting ones, which isn't always the same thing.
19 Oct 2009, 12:06 AM
Cowutopia

Sure. I own Katamari. <shrug> That got near unanimously positive reviews too.

I don't buy games based on reviews, but recently I don't buy many games at all because most of them are shit. Renting is enough.

I bought Okami because it was a Zelda style adventureish game with pretty art. Seemed right up my alley. Fuck that game.
19 Oct 2009, 12:23 AM
Frogacuda

But I'd rather play an experiment that only partly succeeds than a polished rehash of a polished rehash of the same shit I played last year.
19 Oct 2009, 01:35 AM
Cowutopia

I'd put them at even. Most games coming out these days are shitty rehashes, and this sounds like no exception, except it's a shitty rehash of a genre that hasn't really appeared in a while married to an FPS.

Mirror's Edge was fun.
19 Oct 2009, 01:38 AM
bVork

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

But I'd rather play an experiment that only partly succeeds than a polished rehash of a polished rehash of the same shit I played last year.

Yes, but I think this depends on whether you enjoy the genre already. Diablo games do absolutely nothing for me, so I have no interest in the main hook of Borderlands, and the FPS elements seem too basic to be interesting. I'll stick to Stalker for my FPS/RPG hybrid action.
19 Oct 2009, 03:38 AM
Cowutopia

Seriously if we drop all the bullshit going on in this thread, this game had a promising concept, but RIGHT NOW what does it look like to you?

I bet this is more disappointing than Hellgate was.
19 Oct 2009, 04:12 AM
Frogacuda

Quote:

Originally Posted by bVork

Yes, but I think this depends on whether you enjoy the genre already. Diablo games do absolutely nothing for me, so I have no interest in the main hook of Borderlands, and the FPS elements seem too basic to be interesting. I'll stick to Stalker for my FPS/RPG hybrid action.

I was just speaking broadly. I'm going to be playing Borderlands because I need to pay my rent, but if that were not the case I'd probably rather pick up Brutal Legend.
19 Oct 2009, 04:48 AM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Seriously if we drop all the bullshit going on in this thread, this game had a promising concept, but RIGHT NOW what does it look like to you?

I bet this is more disappointing than Hellgate was.

What? Did you actually play Hellgate? That game was awful in every possible way, ugly as shit, terrible controls, lame loot, and they dared to tack a monthly fee on it. Borderlands could be pure shit and it'll still beat Hellgate.

I watched some streams though that made it look fun and challenging, so we'll see. I'll be playing it mainly in co-op, and be happy if it's not the same old shit like Halo has been four times over now. At least it's not straight up corridor shooting.
19 Oct 2009, 08:57 AM
Chux

Hellgate might have been the worst game TNL co-op has conned me into getting.

Worse than Ramon w/ Bomberman.
19 Oct 2009, 04:25 PM
Hero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I was just speaking broadly. I'm going to be playing Borderlands because I need to pay my rent, but if that were not the case I'd probably rather pick up Brutal Legend.

Trust me, that scenario would not be as big an improvement as you may think.
19 Oct 2009, 04:41 PM
Drewbacca

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Do you like firm, brown poo better than loose, green poo too? The art direction in both is awful.

The art in both is well produced and fun. It's kitschy and over-the-top but that was the defined style and they ran with it very very well. What are you even talking about - the menus or the in-game stage footage of your avatar singing? If the latter then, yeah, that needs to be spiced up IMO. But the actual menus and style are great.
19 Oct 2009, 05:20 PM
kingoffighters

I personally like firm poo better. A tint of deep/forest green to go along with the brown just brings back warm memories of Vermont's visage.
19 Oct 2009, 06:47 PM
Cowutopia

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaronChance

What? Did you actually play Hellgate? That game was awful in every possible way, ugly as shit, terrible controls, lame loot, and they dared to tack a monthly fee on it. Borderlands could be pure shit and it'll still beat Hellgate.

I watched some streams though that made it look fun and challenging, so we'll see. I'll be playing it mainly in co-op, and be happy if it's not the same old shit like Halo has been four times over now. At least it's not straight up corridor shooting.

Yes, I played Hellgate. I recommended it to my brother who was looking for a Diabloish experience and when he threw it at me in disgust I played it.

It was, in fact, worse than PSO.
20 Oct 2009, 12:10 AM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

It was, in fact, worse than PSO.

It is worse than anything. I've played free Korean MMOs with better quality. Calling it a trainwreck would be an insult to locomotive collisions.
20 Oct 2009, 04:59 AM
Frogacuda

So despite what someone who knows someone might have said on a messageboard, Borderlands is getting great reviews.
20 Oct 2009, 10:21 AM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thierry Nguyen at 1Up

It's that Borderlands is a game where the single-player ranges from good to downright boring or frustrating

Sorry, that's not a B+ game. Fuck essentially multiplayer-only games.
20 Oct 2009, 10:23 AM
Chux

How long did you play Warcraft?
20 Oct 2009, 10:24 AM
Yoshi

Until I had to group all the time to continue to progress. I love the shit out of soloing MMOs.

Plus, MMOs don't have the same issue as these kinds of games where no one will be playing it in three months.
20 Oct 2009, 10:56 AM
Chux

Fair enough.
20 Oct 2009, 11:00 AM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

I love the shit out of soloing MMOs.

You DO know what MMO stands for right? I mean really.....take partying out of an MMO and they're exactly like all the same old boring as fuck JRPG's you hate so much.
20 Oct 2009, 11:41 AM
epmode

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

So despite what someone who knows someone might have said on a messageboard, Borderlands is getting great reviews.

I was considering this. No way am I in for $60 but I might be interested in splitting a Steam 4-pack. Like Left4Dead 2, it comes out to about $33.75.
20 Oct 2009, 12:43 PM
Korly

Mine shipped from Gamefly today. Will play with you soon.
20 Oct 2009, 01:38 PM
Hero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

Plus, MMOs don't have the same issue as these kinds of games where no one will be playing it in three months.

That's my fear about Borderlands - conceptually a FPS multiplayer Diablo sounds rad but if the single player sucks, what's the point?
20 Oct 2009, 02:01 PM
Chux

I like shoot mans games.
I like loot mans games. (Diablo)
I like class mans games.
I like co-op friends games.

I should like Borderlands.
20 Oct 2009, 02:56 PM
Hero

That's what I'm thinking but even the reviews that praise it are saying the single player is a drag. That its the "Mario Party of FPS" as 1up puts it - the inherent enjoyment stems from having a team, not from the core mechanics. That the basic, AI, the open, dull world to trudge through becomes more noticable on solo.
20 Oct 2009, 03:08 PM
Yoshi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyne

You DO know what MMO stands for right? I mean really.....take partying out of an MMO and they're exactly like all the same old boring as fuck JRPG's you hate so much.

:wtf:
20 Oct 2009, 03:23 PM
Bacon McShig

So fuck it I ended up picking this up. 2NITE IS ALL RIGHT FOR CO-OP.
20 Oct 2009, 03:39 PM
Chux

Bacon, PC or ZBOZ?
20 Oct 2009, 03:49 PM
Bacon McShig

ZBOZ3000

I don't think the PC version's due out for another week.
20 Oct 2009, 03:54 PM
Chux

IWILLCU2NITE
20 Oct 2009, 05:01 PM
Drewbacca

I'm seriously contemplating buying this over Steam. It looks very good.
20 Oct 2009, 05:49 PM
epmode

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbacca

I'm seriously contemplating buying this over Steam. It looks very good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epmode

I was considering this. No way am I in for $60 but I might be interested in splitting a Steam 4-pack. Like Left4Dead 2, it comes out to about $33.75.

!!!
20 Oct 2009, 05:49 PM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoshi

:wtf:

I fail to see how you enjoy soloing in an MMO, yet always spout your dislike of JRPG's when there isn't much difference between the two the way you play an MMO.
20 Oct 2009, 05:50 PM
Yoshi

Does WoW have random encounters and angsty feminine lead characters?
20 Oct 2009, 05:57 PM
Frogacuda

It has random encounter placement and feminine emo users. Does that count?
20 Oct 2009, 05:57 PM
kingoffighters

WoW has lots of random encounters with angsty fake feminie characters.

EDIT: Frog beat me to it!
20 Oct 2009, 06:09 PM
FuryFox

I'd consider getting in on that 4pack if people want to get this for pc. I need something to play on my computer when my girlfriend hogs the 360 watching House.
20 Oct 2009, 06:49 PM
SamuraiMoogle

Rented this today. Send an invite if you see me online.
20 Oct 2009, 08:03 PM
Cowdisease

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyne

You DO know what MMO stands for right? I mean really.....take partying out of an MMO and they're exactly like all the same old boring as fuck JRPG's you hate so much.

It's funny you mention this. In a conversation with my game professor who also works at Microsoft and is really knowledgeable about MMOs, he told me something very surprising about MMOs. Despite having "massive multiplayer" in the genre's title, the most successful MMOs are the ones that have strong single-player content. You would think that people who play MMOs do so because they want to play in a massive group, right? Nope. Most play the game either by themselves or with another person, and one of the reasons some MMOs aren't as popular as WoW is because the games were designed to make it impossible to reach the level cap by yourself. That's partially why WoW has been so successful. You could reach the level cap if you played solo. Granted, there is some content that you can't access without playing with a group, but you don't get penalized if you don't play in raids.
20 Oct 2009, 08:08 PM
epmode

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuryFox

I'd consider getting in on that 4pack if people want to get this for pc. I need something to play on my computer when my girlfriend hogs the 360 watching House.

Well, just let me know. I already grabbed the Left4Dead 2 pack and that worked out well for everyone. It's pretty awesome to be able to grab a brand new game with such a discount.
20 Oct 2009, 08:20 PM
sedition

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chux

I like shoot mans games.
I like loot mans games. (Diablo)
I like class mans games.
I like co-op friends games.

I should like Borderlands.

I think I have a copy of Hellgate London Limited Edition laying around here somewhere if you're interested.

:icepick:
20 Oct 2009, 08:26 PM
Nash

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowdisease

You would think that people who play MMOs do so because they want to play in a massive group, right?

I never thought this. I've always understood the "massive" aspect of MMO to mean that a large number of people can play online at the same time, not necessarily that you can play with a large number of people in your party.
20 Oct 2009, 11:01 PM
Cowdisease

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nash

I never thought this. I've always understood the "massive" aspect of MMO to mean that a large number of people can play online at the same time, not necessarily that you can play with a large number of people in your party.

Oops, let me revise what I said.

Quote:

You would think that people who play MMOs do so because they want to play with other people.

This is what I really meant to say.
20 Oct 2009, 11:18 PM
koda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowdisease

You would think that people who play MMOs do so because they want to play with other people.

I kinda get it, though. I mean, when I play these games, I do want to party up with people, but I also see the flip-side. It's kinda neat just to know that there are other people running around the world/server... that there are these hubs you can go back to in order to talk, show off your gear, buy/sell/trade items with, etc. Even if you don't necessarily want to go through the effort of finding reliable groups of players to quest with all the time.

If I have the option to team up or play solo I'll enjoy a bit of both, but if the game is balanced so that I can't do shit by myself (endgame/special content excluded) then I'll probably get burnt out pretty quickly.
21 Oct 2009, 01:36 AM
Drewbacca

Quote:

Originally Posted by epmode

!!!

How do we do that? I already bought L4D2 and split it with spent and our friends (to get the baseball bat, primarily). Steam is wicked. I'd give spent Borderlands so he can play it, too. Something tells me this isn't the kind of game you want to play solo if you can avoid it.
21 Oct 2009, 01:45 AM
Bacon McShig

Played a marathon session of coop with Chux, this game is rad. Enemies get kinda retardedly buffed as your levels progress, though.
21 Oct 2009, 01:57 AM
Chux

Yeah, I didn't realize we played for like 5 hours. Sucks that H's game was fucking up on him though.
21 Oct 2009, 04:55 AM
Schlep

Spent four hours playing the game without even realizing the time. Now only 5 hours of sleep before work. :\
21 Oct 2009, 08:39 AM
epmode

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drewbacca

How do we do that? I already bought L4D2 and split it with spent and our friends (to get the baseball bat, primarily). Steam is wicked. I'd give spent Borderlands so he can play it, too.

I'd buy the 4-pack and I'd gift it to anyone who Paypal's me $33.75 and PMs their Steam ID. If you're interested, just post here and I'll PM my Paypal information.
21 Oct 2009, 11:09 AM
Chux

Lillith's phasewalk attack is broken out of the box. Awesome, I now have a char. with an oh shit button, not a go invisible and fuck bitches up button.
21 Oct 2009, 11:23 AM
Bacon McShig

How so? Moves too fast to hit anyone accurately, I'm guessing?

There's a few skills that could offset that a little, one where the shockwave when you initiate phasewalk will hurt enemies, and another where running nearby 'em causes shock damage.
21 Oct 2009, 11:47 AM
Chux

No, it literally is not doing damage when you melee them out of phase walk.
Edit: It's a known issue and gearbox is working on it.
21 Oct 2009, 01:17 PM
Prince Planet

This is a cool game -- Crackdown + Fallout 3 + Stranger's Wrath. I only managed to play a bit of co-op, which was great. 1P was fun enough, but I'm really hoping some of you will be on tonight for more co-op.

Btw, I went with Mordecai -- snipers and revolvers, mmmm. Plus, I like having a deadly attack bird perched on my shoulder.
21 Oct 2009, 08:32 PM
SamuraiMoogle

I started the game this morning and played till I was a level 12 solo. Its a lot of fun so far. I need to try the co-op. Maybe tonight.
21 Oct 2009, 09:03 PM
Hero

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I was just speaking broadly. I'm going to be playing Borderlands because I need to pay my rent, but if that were not the case I'd probably rather pick up Brutal Legend.

This gives me an idea - I wanna try Borderlands but I also don't want to pay for it. I DO however, have Brutal Legend and will most likely get rid of it after finishing. Wanna do a trade later?
21 Oct 2009, 10:15 PM
Frogacuda

I'm going to be grinding on this for a couple weeks doing a guide, but after that, I'd likely be down for that. Unless I really fall in love with this.
21 Oct 2009, 11:18 PM
Cowutopia

Man you guys suck now I want it again. But I really shouldn't buy it so I WON'T

This is one of those games that'll suck if I pick it up late though.
22 Oct 2009, 02:41 AM
SamuraiMoogle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Man you guys suck now I want it again. But I really shouldn't buy it so I WON'T

This is one of those games that'll suck if I pick it up late though.

Eh, I played a bunch alone and I think its great. Chux joined me and things went from great to kicking fucking ass :)
22 Oct 2009, 09:35 AM
Chux

I am pretty rad.

No really though we started tearing through shit and we both got some nice upgrades.
22 Oct 2009, 10:26 AM
Dyne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Man you guys suck now I want it again. But I really shouldn't buy it so I WON'T

This is one of those games that'll suck if I pick it up late though.

So rent it now while people are playing.
22 Oct 2009, 10:34 AM
Cowutopia

fuck blockbuster
22 Oct 2009, 10:37 AM
Dyne

I'm sure there are other places to get it from.
22 Oct 2009, 10:44 AM
Cowutopia

fuck anyplace. I'll play it when Gamefly sends it to me in three months.
22 Oct 2009, 03:09 PM
AaronChance

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

fuck anyplace. I'll play it when Gamefly sends it to me in three months.

No worries. People will be back playing it then when the third DLC pack hits.
22 Oct 2009, 04:10 PM
ElCapichan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowutopia

Man you guys suck now I want it again. But I really shouldn't buy it so I WON'T

This is one of those games that'll suck if I pick it up late though.

I'm in the same boat. Too much out or coming out right now and I do not nee to be buying this now, but how many people here will be playing it in a few months?
22 Oct 2009, 04:18 PM
Chux

I dunno, if they keep adding classes I'll keep playing. The game is dumb fun playing co-op with friends.
22 Oct 2009, 04:41 PM
ElCapichan

Once I 100% Brutal Legend, I will probably trade that in and try to get a used copy of this if I can.
22 Oct 2009, 08:05 PM
Sinista

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCapichan

Once I 100% Brutal Legend, I will probably trade that in and try to get a used copy of this if I can.

I was thinking along the same line.
22 Oct 2009, 08:06 PM
Pineapple

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElCapichan

but how many people here will be playing it in a few months?

I absolutely intend to pick this up by Xmas. Hopefully before.
22 Oct 2009, 10:30 PM
Bacon McShig

I'm having enough fun with the game that I'll absolutely start up another playthrough with a different class when I'm done with the one I've got. I'll be getting a lot of mileage out of it.
22 Oct 2009, 10:37 PM
Cowutopia

ok I'm gonna go see if I can snag it off a blockbuster later because I got the next two days off
23 Oct 2009, 01:07 AM
Chux

He did. Korly, and Cow joined the game I was playing with firstblood, we killed a few things and turned in a quest and both of them hit level 6. Powerleveling is easy in the joint.

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