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"America, I come to say fuck you! You spend money building wall for Mexicans, while I steal cable on the Pakistani border to watch CNN and laugh at Geraldo! Five years of war on terror and I am still America's Waldo!"
They found a new guy to play him? Took a while.
Google could find him
The Freedom Fighter is back.
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You know, I just thought of something. If he's ever found, we should tie him up. Put a supository explosive up his ass and after torturing him for a while push the button to explode the supository. Sounds like an idea to me.
I'm startin' to think this guy is a jerk.
Bin Laden reappears, and then Gymkata comes back and posts... I SMELL CONSPIRACY.
Why? He is a man doing what he believes is best for his people. Just because we don't agree with his practices doesn't make him any more evil than anyone who has ordered the death of innocents (see: the US government)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gonzo
Look at Josh, that rabble rouser.
Actually, he's doing what he believes is what his god wants. Not what's best for his people.Quote:
Why? He is a man doing what he believes is best for his people. Just because we don't agree with his practices doesn't make him any more evil than anyone who has ordered the death of innocents (see: the US government)
THAT GIVES US THE RIGHT TO JUDGE HIM JOSH, DON'T HATE.
That's a can of worms right there I won't touch....Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Hey... I'm just saying. I can't hate Bin Laden any more than I can hate anyone who has caused innocent people to die.
Anyone that can probably has a magnetic yellow ribbon on their suv.
I'll touch your can of worms. Woooooo
I bet you would.
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Originally Posted by Me
No, Josh just supports the fight against breast cancer.
Actually, what he's doing is in HIS best interests and not the Muslim religion or his people. Being Muslim doesn't mean you're supposed to kill people. He's just using religion to justify his murderous ways. It's called propaganda - just like we use here in the States.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
I'm not saying he's a #1 guy or anything. But I don't think he should be demonized just because he orchestrated the deaths of a few thousand Muricans.
American lives are not worth more than the lives of anyone else. we just have more money.
No, he absolutely should be demonized.
But the others who do the same thing should ALSO be demonized.
I said he's doing what He believes his god wants.Quote:
Actually, what he's doing is in HIS best interests and not the Muslim religion or his people.
I think we should start looking pretty close to home. Our country is full of demons.
Absolutely. And we need Ron Paul who won't protect those demons.
I'll bet you'll hate him if he takes away your Internet, Episodes of "The Office", and music - because that's American and that's exactly what he wants to see destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
The govt. is already trying to take away the internet ;)
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Originally Posted by Josh
Agreed. Have you been reading the news about corrupt politicians being arressted by FBI agents? Woot Woot!
There's always a higher corrupt politician pulling the strings to take out the other ones :(
lol conspiracy theory
I hear his commode is lined with Ramone records.
Doc your new gimmick sucks, go back to making on topic posts of crazy ass unrealistic stories please.
I wasn't aware he was on a crusade to rid the world of broadcast television shows. I thought he hated our government and our policies and wants to see that destroyed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type Ryan
also: The internet is not American. I think they might even have it in back ass places like Canada.
I don't really know though. I don't pay attention to things I don't give a fuck about.
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Originally Posted by Josh
I should retract my Internet comment, since he uses the Net to spread his message, so I concede that.
But bin Laden is out to destroy everything that is American. Those Al Qaeda terrorists in Germany whose terror plot was foiled, had a tremendous disdain for American citizens - not just our government/policies. If the terrorists could think for themselves, which they don't since they're brainwashed, they would realize that most Americans don't agree with our current policies and, in a wierd way, they're on the same side as majority of our population. The difference between us and them is that we won't strap a bomb to ourselves and blow a bunch of people off in the name of Martyrdom
We are a country of dick slinging cowboys that only care about ourselves and how many things we can buy.
The things these terrorists hate us for are pretty fucking valid imo. Perhaps this country should fall.
Bah. The terrorists don't even really hate us, they've just been trained to think they do (as has already been mentioned). It's all an excuse for them to die and make their way into that ridiculous notion of heaven that has all the hot lolis.
I agree with a lot of what you have to say regarding this country's flaws. It's unfortunate that greed, selfishness, and division are bringing this country down, but look at the quality of life over in the middle east. The more "civilized" countries follow the US democratic model which allows for prosperity. As for the other countries in the middle east, well, we all know how fun life is for those citizens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I'm sorry, but I choose the USA over any other country because this is the greatest country in the world despite its many flaws. I doubt you'd be able to voice your opinion living in a country run by terrorists or any tyrranical regime without being jailed or killed.
This is complete bullshit. He targeted civilians for the sole purpose of having an economic impact on a country of which he is jealous. It has nothing to do with helping "his people" in any way, shape or form.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
This is even bigger bullshit. The reason we have better medicines, better understanding of the universe, and a better standard of living is solely due to capitalism. A cure for cancer will never be found without billions of dollars being invested in research. Lots of products we use today would never have been invented without billions spent by NASA. Those billions of dollars would never be available in China or any other ass-backwards communist/socialist country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I agree, if Josh thinks this country suck so much ass, he can GTFO.
Pussies don't like dicks, because pussies get fucked by dicks. But dicks also fuck assholes: assholes that just want to shit on everything. Pussies may think they can deal with assholes their way. But the only thing that can fuck an asshole is a dick, with some balls. The problem with dicks is: they fuck too much or fuck when it isn't appropriate - and it takes a pussy to show them that. But sometimes, pussies can be so full of shit that they become assholes themselves... because pussies are an inch and half away from ass holes. I don't know much about this crazy, crazy world, but I do know this: If you don't let us fuck this asshole, we're going to have our dicks and pussies all covered in shit!
About two years ago I did some serious research into just this. If I could afford to leave this country I would. I do not want to be associated with the United States of America in any way, shape, or form.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
I'd even take Canada over this place.
I asked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
And recieved.
Doc holiday is god
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU PEOPLE THIS FOR YEARS NOW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
I bet it's a Bin Laden webcam video. George is probably watching it over and over. I think I heard he takes his turban off
excellent movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
I dunno, he was born into an incredibly rich oil family. He could be spending his time fucking mad bitches on beds of $100 bills, and instead he is hiding in caves and shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type Ryan
He's out of his fucking mind, but he clearly believes in what he's doing.
In the next 10-20 years China is going to become the leading economic force in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Just keep on living the dream, Yoshi.
NO THIS IS THE GREATEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD SHUT UP
In 10 years, the average life expectancy for people living in a metropolitan cities in China will drop to under 40.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
They are close to surpassing US for pollution. I wouldn't live there if they triple my salary and throw me in a mansion.
I asked this question whenever someone with your stance wants to move out of the country. Have you ever lived (in an extended period of time) outside of USA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
I can respect this if you have actual experience and not just what you read or heard from the media.
BZZZT. Wrong. The US is not a capitalist country, it's a hybrid with regulations on business and labor. We don't have 'better' medicines, we have more expensive ones. We don't understand the universe any better, there are great astronomers the world over. The US has no monopoly on great scientists, in fact we have a deficit compared to other Western countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Standard of living? Same thing. There are more Americans living in poverty without even basic medical care than any Western European country. Now that I'll grant you is due to more capitalistic exploitative nature of our economy, but I don't see why you laud this as a good thing.
Doesn't have to be private dollars, in fact where do you think most of the research is done? Public universities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
So, your greatest defense of capitalism is a government owned and operated agency which developed some of the greatest innovations in history? LOL. Other acceptable answers would have been an interstate highway system and the internet, both completely designed in the public sector. The anathema of capitalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Look, Yoshi, your views are a cute throwback to the Cold War, but they have nothing to do with reality or the current situation.
Why does Bin Laden hate us? Who the fuck knows? I don't really care why one jerkoff hates us, what I care about is why do other people agree with his stupidity and throw away their lives in his moronic cause? I think it's a combination of cultural alienation of Muslims in Western Europe and the crippling poverty and anti-colonial sentiment of Muslims in the ME and Asia. But, that's just one view. I don't think we'll ever know the truth of it, it's just not that kind of conflict.
OMG, shades of Kaneda?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
The closest is South Texas. Thats like a different fucking planet.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
But yeah. I don't have these views because I heard someone else say them on the TV. I actually can think for myself.
Canada really isn't bad -- Fries w/gravy, Brittish, growing economy, UWO girls and London with it's hot chick demographics of > 60%. I would have lived there while in the ghost town that is Western NY had they approved my work visa. Sadly they did not.
Video leaked.. (not the actual video)
Bin Laden urges Americans to convert
It's not like he'd be moving to sub Saharan Africa or some shit. Western Europe is fine. So is Canada.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Please stop with the jingoistic nonsense. There are actually countries out there with better standards of living than the US.
I wouldn't live in China either, but that doesn't change the fact that they're about to become the economic superpower in the world, which will most likely cause Yoshi to kill himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Also, I fail to see how a country with a a population over 4 times as large as the US being about to surpass them in pollution is supposed to somehow be a plus for the US.
BECAUSE MURICA IS THE BEST COUNTRY EVER LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT YOU PINKO FAGGOT!
QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Josh should stick to trolling and leave the terrorist sympathizing to TNL's more educated socialists.
you should stick to killing yourself
There we go.
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Now do I detect some sarcasm in these posts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Na' now what we have herah, Josh Cocoro, is staight up 'bama - Montgomery bonified - a God fearin' christian and lovah of tha Amaricahn people.
No, but lulzbot detects lulz in them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type Ryan
As soon as my wife and I's parents are dead we're moving to either New Zealand or Italy. This country can get fucked.
LOL. You people are hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
Blah blah blah. This is all humanity trying to beat the concepts of life and evolution. I'm not complaining about living in the US, but we live in a very unnatural society and one day it will likely fall for that very reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
Everyone rants and raves about curing things like cancer but in the end the person is still going to die. Besides, the medical community isn't going to cure anything unless it's making them money. Adam Smith was just as wrong as Karl Marx.
Sometimes being powerful is better then living at high standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Fucksticks!Quote:
Originally Posted by g0zen
I think something in the universe just broke.
I completely agree with g0zen!
No, he's just crazy. His family has all kinds of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
A lot of you people don't understand the research community. There's a lot of shit going on that has nothing to do with the pharmaceutical companies and the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
My whole family is scientists, and I can tell you that no one gets into science for the money. There's a lot of really smart dudes busting their asses in science for comparatively little money. They'd all make a lot more if they went into business or became doctors or lawyers or some shit.
Their ideas mean nothing if nobody wants to put nothing behind them though in a lot of cases though. I don't think the researchers are evil, but the people paying them are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
This is like the best thing you've ever posted. I love that cartoon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doc Holliday
Capitalism isn't the problem. The rampant arrogance and ignorance of Americans are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
A lot of labs get their money from government grants and universities. Pharmaceutical companies are not the only ones funding research.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
Everyone everywhere is arrogant and ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsubaki
Not in the same way.
Also - The main reason I can't stand this place is the religious right. It's bullshit and I'd like to leave when it makes sense to do so. Why is that hilarious?
fuck Osama, who killed Maddie?
LULZBOT ACTIVATE
I was thinking about NZ too... MAYBE WE CAN BE NEIGHBORZ!
America is a great country that's being bamboozled by corporate interests. People know this but can't do anything about it, it seems. If you're so pissed off about the country you live in, Josh, you should get involved with politics and find a candidate you feel can change things. You can run up here to Canada all you want, but the U.S. foreign policy is going to catch up with you regardless of where you end up going.
Since the beginning of civilization people have always fought for more power and territory. The leading civilization is always put under scrutiny because their actions effect other civilizations either directly or indirectly. The other civilizations are eventually going to attempt to take the power away from the leading civilization in a moment of weakness.
After the development of organized religion people had a reason of higher power to hate and be manipulated into attacking people of a different culture, religion, or country.
Frankly, nothing really changes much outside of which civilization is at the helm and the length of time that they remain there. I believe the US has pissed on so many other civilizations for so long that it is only a matter of time before a group like the Taliban exploits us in a moment of weakness.
not really. A ton of the stuff we know about the universe was known before the US was even founded. And the things we have learned since then have either been stolen from other non capitalistic countries or funded by government grants.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
I guess you are right if we are only talking about electronics. A good deal of that technology was born from capitalism.
Yes, NASA, a government funded foundation is an excellent example of the power of capitalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
BTW, love NASA. It is the only government run thing we have that constantly gives back to the economy.
We don't know what will happen in China. Most people are betting the country will change their government into something like what the US or UK has.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
The only real question is WHEN and if the people in power will allow the change to happen peacefully.
Anyone who's lived outside of this country would know even with its flaws how much better it is then most other countries around the world. I currently live in South Texas, and as much as I hate it down here I'd rather be here than Canada etc. This country is full of people who think they know all the fucking answers because they disagree with the president and found out the USA isn't perfect. I'd love for Josh to move to fucking China or Japan and find out how all the other countries are not so perfect either.
Anyway,
Fuck this thread.
God damn do you not get it. If the government wasn't offering billions to private contractors, none of this stuff would exist. If it weren't for the corporations, the government wouldn't have the billions to give back.Quote:
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Good answer Spo. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by SpoDaddy
Interesting what this thread has become.
Osama Bin Laden, is exactly what he says he isn't. Which is usually the case with guys like him. People who claim to be righteous and manage to do so without humility, are usually exactly what they say they hate. Bin Laden, is a scumbag, who is using his family fortune, and his name sake, to further a cause he no more believes in than Dick Cheney believes in God. None of the people at the head of these terrorist organizations believes a damn thing about the religious implications of this shit, its just fun for them to be in control, and its even more fun for them to see who will commit murder after being fed a line of bullshit.
Anyone defending the U.S. under the impression that we never did anything to be attacked needs to really learn more about their own country. No one in their right mind should say we deserved to be attacked, and mean it, HOWEVER, to say we did nothing to get the ball rolling is stupid. You play with fire, you eventually get burned. The U.S. has moved in, and pulled out of so many affairs that had nothing to do with us over the years, that you can't honestly sit there and tell me that this wasn't going to happen. When you add purposefully add fuel to a fire, you can't expect it to go out all of a sudden.
Hell the fucking reason I personally am so outraged about this Iraq thing, is that well, WE RESPONDED TO BEING ATTACKED BY DOING IT AGAIN, and this time with the whole worlds attention. Bush once said we were fighting a war of perception there, and, well, I think its kind of funny that the first thing we did was cover ourselves in shit and piss before we started it.
The Americans who need to be shipped out of this country are the ones who think everything we do is right, because thats just about the most un-american thing anyone could ever do. If you aren't gonna participate or try to understand all sides of a debate before you make up your mind, than move to Cuba, where there is only one side to everything, and you can see how it works when the people are as complacent as the goverment. Those idiots aren't worthwhile Americans in my eyes, and they need to take that flag out of their mouths before they choke on it.
Question authority.
Always question authority, or someday you might find you no longer have the right too.
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Originally Posted by Saint of Killers
Um, capitalism is about as natural as it gets. It's the economic version of Darwinism. Dodos get fucked in both systems.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
THAT ISN'T CAPITALISM!Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshi
How is that not capitalism? The companies are competing for a contract. I'm not talking about fucking candy land capitalism. I'm talking about the closest thing that exists in the real world. Are you still in college where you don't learn shit about reality?
The Healthcare system, much like the current slop of news channels, really do rely way too much on the bottom line. Profit should not factor into them at all. It bothers me immensely that we have not wiped out a disease since Polio, and that the word cure has become the rarest word in all of the medical world. Treatment, never cure. And why the fuck can pharmecutical companies advertise to us? Last time I checked I wasn't a doctor, and the last time I checked I couldn't walk into my doctors office and tell him I needed Perks cause y'know, the knees acting up.
All of those things bother me immensely. I'd like to see the drug industry use my well earned money to actually cure something in the next 5 years instead of TREAT the disease, as if it was a delicate flower whose pedals we might accidently crush.
How much of your hard earned money goes to the drug industry? Virtually none of mine does, other than the $7 a month I spend on vitamins. I don't even take aspirin.
Also, your logic makes my head hurt. I can't comprehend the naivety it takes to think that taking the news or health care public would actually make anything better.
Your lack of logic always makes my head hurt.
#1) Lets go back to the day where the media wasn't a money making entity? Y'know the evil liberal media that your side always whines about? Lets go back to the day where there wasn't the blue network (MSNBC) and the red network (Fox), when they were forced to have a new segment that didn't rely at all on profit margins and ratings.
In todays day and age Nixon would never have been impeached, or even found out probably, with the pussy, biased, media outlets running around. I know this because no one in the Bush administration has ever had to answer for their decisions. The media sucks nowadays, and I blame people like Yoshi for it sucking so much.
2.) We are the only mass industrial country in the world without free health care. If I found out I had cancer tomorrow, I'd be more worried about how much I'd have to pay than I would be about trying to survive it.
To someone like you thats irrelevant because until you have to experience a situation where you can't afford treatment for something because you can't afford health care, (and people like you never usually do, so consider yourself lucky) you don't have the perspective on this to give me a credible thought, other than the old argument of "I don't want the government in charge of health care."
Republicans nowadays are so funny, because they really believe their party is still about individuality and privatization, not seeing that these corporations aren't there to help them or the economy anymore, and have become just as bad, if not worse, than the government they claim to be serving in the best interest of. You really think if this was the United States of Microsoft we'd all be better off?
You don't want to trust the government with your health thats fine, and the other argument I'm sure is you don't want to pay your tax money to other people's health. Good for you.
I don't trust the big faceless corporation trying to hawk drugs that might kill me in commercials that make out "Levitra" to be the happy meal of pharmacy drugs, and tell me to suggest to my doctor what drug I should be one because I saw a neon green butterfly on a commercial tell me too.
Also for the record, other countries have done this and been quite successful with it.
Fuck this thread is making my blood boil.
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Originally Posted by Yoshi
This thread is great.
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You're right, it's not very surprising anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh
Capitalism is the world's greatest invention IMO. People point to healthcare as an example of failed capitalism. But the first company who breaks through the barriers and offers people legit healthcare for decent rates (not even low rates) is going to flourish in that market. What isn't capitalism is safeguards in place holding keeping a free market from truly grasping that industry. Same thing with telephones. Verizon, AT&T and everyone can go fuck themselves for ruining what could be a sensational phone industry in the US.
But that comes back to politics. A candidate like Ron Paul (or even Obama, but who the fuck knows with that guy) crediting open markets and encouraging corporations to service industries is exactly what you need. Taking out government involvement holding things back could do wonders. Anyway, point being if the system is broken you actually have the power to help contribute to its repairs. It might take a fuck ton of work to do but you have recourse.
It's not like we don't have our issues up here in Canada anyway. The Liberal party is stealing millions in taxpayer's dollars to give to its corporate friends. The difference is up here we're fighting to take them out of power and our parties are legitimately different.
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Hey IronPlant, how about reading my posts before repeating them. kthx.Quote:
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Lesbian porn, imo.Quote:
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