Most WTF story I think I've ever heard

This story isn't exactly current, but the court case was finally settled earlier this month, and I don't recall ever seeing a thread about this here, and searching turned up nothing, so I just thought I'd post about it. If this has been covered previously, please, please find it in your hearts to forgive me.

I'm not shocked or flabbergasted easily, but a coworker was telling me about this a few minutes ago and…well, the apparent intelligence level of all involved is just blowing my fucking mind. The manager, the employee, the fiancée…I…I'm just fucking speechless. I know McDonalds employs retards, but…well, none of these people seem to actually be retarded. I just can’t understand it.

Anyway, just read the stories- here's a few links to the original offence:

Wikipedia entry (under 'Mount Washington, Kentucky incident'): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Ogborn

More detailed article (very long, but it covers everything in-depth. Fascinating.): http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/...WS01/510090392

And a link to the article detailing the judgment: http://www.knowmoremedia.com/2007/10..._61_milli.html

Apparently the entire incident was caught on a surveillance camera, so I assume the entire video may be available somewhere. I'd check YouTube, but I can’t get it at work. But we all know this shit has ways of getting out.

Anyway, I knew there were stupid people running around everywhere unchecked, but this surpasses my wildest expectations. I'm still reeling.

How horrifying. Not just because of this particular incident, but because it reveals the truth about the people we have become. I'm glad they mentioned the Milgram experiment, because it's very apt. Can you imagine what things could be like if martial law were ever declared?

Our culture, our society has turned into people being raised with the facade of interpersonal pathos, but under perceived authority are capable of so much harm, partly because of fear, and partly because of a deep-seeded selfishness.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Apparently the entire incident was caught on a surveillance camera, so I assume the entire video may be available somewhere. I'd check YouTube, but I can’t get it at work. But we all know this shit has ways of getting out.

Anyway, I knew there were stupid people running around everywhere unchecked, but this surpasses my wildest expectations. I'm still reeling.

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It aired on dateline last year, at least some of it. They never mentioned anything about the oral sex.

I remember this when it was first reported, could have sworn we had a thread about it.

Anyway, it sounds too ridiculous to be true. You'd never think that would work on anyone. There's like 100 instances there that would make you stop and go..."Fuck no."

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"A little young girl standing there naked wasn't a pretty sight."

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lolololo

The two experiments linked to in the wiki article are really interesting. I'd like to think I would act morally in those situations, but who knows?

The Stanford Prison experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment

The Milgram Experiment http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment

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Originally Posted by Rumpy

I remember this when it was first reported, could have sworn we had a thread about it.

Anyway, it sounds too ridiculous to be true. You'd never think that would work on anyone. There's like 100 instances there that would make you stop and go..."Fuck no."

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Yeah, that's why I'm so fucking floored. I can't understand the concept of a human being that isn't completely, I'm talking hardcore retarded, falling for this.

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Originally Posted by TrialSword

I'm glad they mentioned the Milgram experiment, because it's very apt.

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Indeed. But you really have to wonder at what point blind obedience ends and simple human compassion and common sense begins in a situation like this. Apparently, it doesn't.

It all comes down to the lowering of the standard American IQ, methinks. Nothing drives this point home more than this quote, issued by the manager, Donna Jean Summers, that forced the girl to strip and whose fiancée's dick the girl sucked:

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She called her manager — Lisa Siddons — whom the caller had said was on the other line. Summers discovered Siddons had been home, sleeping.

"I knew then I had been had," Summers said.

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Normally I'd lol at such stupidity, but…it's more disturbing than funny.

Pretty fucked up.
Now where did I write down Gamevet's number?

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Originally Posted by John Cena

Pretty fucked up.
Now where did I write down Gamevet's number?

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Does he work in Micky D's? You totally have to get him to suck a dick.

People = Sheep

Basically, yeah.

It warrants a better explanation than that. Hell, a simple janitor caught on to the hoax almost immediately. The guy never finished 9th grade. The people involved with this and the related incidents are not unlike a lot of people who profess to be good, law abiding citizens. The more upright you think you are, the more you let fearmongering and perceived authority manipulate you.

Sorry to make the reference, FX, but soldiers are a perfect example of this. The perception is that soldiers take orders from their superiors because they see themselves as objects of a just organization, and because they fear isolation and even court martial, many are capable of killing children, defenseless women and unarmed men and still keep the self image of a moral human being. Not all, of course, but certainly enough to see what we've seen in news reports.

The guy was using power, communication, and biology against people. As much as it's fun to sit here and say, "I wouldn't do that shit!" you don't know until you're put in the situation.

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Originally Posted by TrialSword

Sorry to make the reference, FX, but soldiers are a perfect example of this.

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No offense taken -- I expected this at some point or another.

Biology?

Anyway, yeah, I read the articles, and it's pretty disturbing stuff. When you look at the psychology behind it, and how it's actually not even that hard to get naive people to agree to these outlandish requests if you start small, maintain an authoritative tone, and say just the right things.

Biology in that there's some 40 year old guy sitting there with a completely naked 18 year old girl in front of him. I'm sure logic was turned off at that point, and what little was still there was overridden by the guy on the other end of the phone giving him complete permission.

I remember the final incident, but I had no idea there were so many more.

It's amazing that this woman was pretty much raped and recieved 5 million when she sued, but that woman who sued Madison Square Garden because she got called a bitch got 11 million.

Also amazing that the stupid fucking woman that kept the girl there and fucking facilitated this rape also sued and is now a millionaire. WTF.

And don't forget the perpetrator was acquitted of all charges (I think... may have misread that, but it wouldn't surprise me).

The trial is still yet to conclude. The biggest charge against him is impersonating a police officer.

I bet finding that dude's house with all that police shit in it was like Christmas for that detective.

Ah, why did he think he was acquitted? Anyway, I don't see why this guy can't be charged with the actual crimes, similar to how Charlie Manson was held responsible for the murders committed by his followers.

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Originally Posted by Compass

Ah, why did he think he was acquitted?

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The article dole posted said his defense was that he was far too stupid to have convinced anyone of anything.

I meant to say, "Why did I think he was acquitted?" My mistake.

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Originally Posted by Compass

And don't forget the perpetrator was acquitted of all charges (I think... may have misread that, but it wouldn't surprise me).

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Besides impersonating a police officer, I don't think the guy really did anything wrong. I'm not advocating it in anyway, but in a legal sense? He played on peoples gullibility and stupidity. If that was a crime, well shit...we'd be all out of politicians because they'd all be doing life.

Inciting rape shouldn't be a crime?

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

that woman who sued Madison Square Garden because she got called a bitch got 11 million.

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Details, pls.

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Also amazing that the stupid fucking woman that kept the girl there and fucking facilitated this rape also sued and is now a millionaire. WTF.

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How that woman got a million and not time is fucking amazing.

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Originally Posted by The Gas

Inciting rape shouldn't be a crime?

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I know rape doesn't have to be accompanied by force, but merely the threat of force, but this is a weird situation to call rape. By all accounts, it went like this:

"Blow me."

"B-b-but I don't wanna, mister."

"You have to. The guy on the phone says so."

"O-okay."

She was threatened, not with physical harm, but with possible legal ramifications from "Officer Scott." But anyone with an IQ over 15 should have known that this was fake and to just get up and walk out of the room. None of the reports say anything about her being physically restrained, or her being mentally handicapped (though I refuse to believe she wasn't). Despite the findings of studies like the Milgram Experiment, I just can't feel sorry for her.

What I'd love to know was if the fiancée bought "Officer Scott's" story as well and was just trying to be a good citizen, or if he was just looking to get a quick BJ from a teenager (probably both).

I saw the same Dateline story that Rumpy mentioned. here's some YouTubage of another news show on the incident:

Wow. That news video is just amazing.

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

Details, pls.

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It happened...last week I think. She sued MSG for sexual harassment (namely Isiah Thomas).

It basically came down to her saying that she was called a bitch and was fired. Seems like MSG lawyers thought it was a joke trial and didn't really put any effort into their defense. She's a complete beast and she won the lotto.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3046010

The whole story from what I read deeper about it was she was very good at her job, she put up with verbal abuse from Isiah and got very wealthy in pay raises for it apparently. Then he comes out and admits to having feelings for her, she rejects him, and gets fired for being bad at her job.

that's another side of the story I've heard.

I think I do remember reading about this, yeah.

No way in hell that's worth 11 million no matter what. I mean whatever story you take it doesn't warrant a payout like that. The justice system is all sorts of ass backwards. Or maybe I should say that jury is just crazy.

Who cares what other people were rewarded?

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Originally Posted by Dolemite

I know rape doesn't have to be accompanied by force, but merely the threat of force, but this is a weird situation to call rape. By all accounts, it went like this:

"Blow me."

"B-b-but I don't wanna, mister."

"You have to. The guy on the phone says so."

"O-okay."

She was threatened, not with physical harm, but with possible legal ramifications from "Officer Scott." But anyone with an IQ over 15 should have known that this was fake and to just get up and walk out of the room. None of the reports say anything about her being physically restrained, or her being mentally handicapped (though I refuse to believe she wasn't).

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Didn't read the second link you posted, didya?

To being with she was she locked in the room without her clothes (which would make it sort of difficult to walk out). She was a 90 lbs girl and Nix was over 200 lbs, so obviously physical resistance was out. Also:

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Originally Posted by Courier Journal article

But she said Nix told her he would hit her if she didn't sodomize him, so she did.

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Sounds like she was threatened with physical harm to me.

She had to sodimize him?

Oh yeah... terminology.

Fontaine is real

Sodomize this girl..would you kindly?

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Originally Posted by Saint of Killers

Didn't read the second link you posted, didya?

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I skimmed through it, but that shit was long, yo.