Jim Broadbent(!) is Professor Slughorn, Helen McCrory is Narcissa Malfoy, David Yates (who did the last one) returns to direct, and Steve Kloves (who did all but the last one) wrote. Scheduled for November 21, 2008
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Some on set footage has come out too.
I forgot I'd seen the fifth movie already.
5th movie was so awesome, I can't wait for this one, and the final one.
Yeah, Deathly Hallows will make a fucking amazing movie if they don't cock it up.
Considering I can't really see them having cocked up any of the earlier movies, should be ok.
Yeah well that was awesome.
All I'm asking is that they set up what needs to be set up properly so that a specific scene from Deathly Hallows will make people cry.
Snape's death?
I wasn't even aware they made a fifth movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
It was pretty forgettable.
I am very excited. It looks like the mood is perfect for this one. I'll be in line for the midnight showing like every other Potter movie.
I guess this leaked out a few days early, it's looking awesome. This book kicked ass, they need to hit a lot of markers to set up DH. Alan Rickman should be all over this, they've ignored Snape way too much in the previous movies.
Well yeah... that, the memories, recalling what lead to the path he took. It's one of the most genuine things I've ever read in a book.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Gas
I'm not sure spoiler tags are needed, but whatever.
SNAPE DIES?
REAAALLLYYY????
OH FUCK, NOW IT'S RUINED FOR ME.
Bring it! - This will be the first Harry Potter movie I see, where I have previous knowledge of what happens in the books (read through the whole series after the fifth movie) ,and Im looking forward to more than a few scenes in this...
Never read the books, but I really enjoy the movies. Looking forward to this one a lot.
I read the first book, got bored on the second and stopped. But I like the movies alot, and the last one was awesome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
The last one was so dark and grim.
It was awesome.
I find Harry Potter boring as shit. I just can't get in to these books. I don't care about any of these fucking kids. Cyrius Black looked like Eddie Vedder. Voldemort is such a homo. He looks like a cancer surviver mixed with an albino burn victim.
In other words they seem like good movies. They just don't click for me.
I know someone who makes Harry Potter rap songs.
I don't quite know why.
If there's something out there more inspirational than a grown man who refuses to wear anything but pajamas like Dumbledor does I certainly haven't found it.
http://www.moviefone.com/movie/harry...nce/27063/main
Teaser's up.
Yates is amazing. This looks really, really, good.
That was posted earlier but yours is in glorious HD so you win.
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Originally Posted by Drewbacca
Someone told me Harry that ends up banging the cute redheaded Weasley girl, which I find odd since she's been such a nobody in the movies so far. Is this true?
She doesn't put out.
yes, they end up having a couple of kids and Ron gets HarmoineQuote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
Its fully true, but in the books it makes more sense. She becomes a bigger and bigger role as the books go on, but the movies have kept as this barely there side character. By the time it happens in the books its pretty fucking obvious. Its been one of my biggest complaints about the movies they've left so many little things out that end up paying off in book 6 and 7 that I don't know what they're going to do with it in the movies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dolemite
While the movies haven't been doing a good job of showing the infatuation the weasley girl has with Harry, they didn't even become an item until after Harry snogged the cute asian girl... if I remember right. So the next movie could be/should be when they start showing more of this relationshipQuote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Damn, that trailer was badass, and it beautiful HD to boot. Makes me really want to pick up the previous movies on BR. The movies just keep getting better and better, and I'm sure these last few will not disappoint.
Yeah but if you go back and re-read the past books, there were hints to it all over the fucking place. Maybe it was because the movies got me into the books, and I actually read book 4 or 5 before the others. (after seeing the movies) When I went back and read the books it really was pretty fucking obvious they were going to end up together. I don't know I'm just not happy with a lot of the little sub plots that are getting left out of the movies that pay off in later books.
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Originally Posted by Gonzo
Bummer.
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Well, this is a surprise. The sixth cinematic jaunt to Hogwarts just got pushed to July 17, 2009, thus leaving a huge hole in the November 2008 release schedule. Why? Feel free to parse WB honcho Alan Horn's official statement:
"Our reasons for shifting 'Half-Blood Prince' to summer are twofold: we know the summer season is an ideal window for a family tent pole release, as proven by the success of our last Harry Potter film, which is the second-highest grossing film in the franchise, behind only the first installment. Additionally, like every other studio, we are still feeling the repercussions of the writers' strike, which impacted the readiness of scripts for other films--changing the competitive landscape for 2009 and offering new windows of opportunity that we wanted to take advantage of. We agreed the best strategy was to move 'Half-Blood Prince' to July, where it perfectly fills the gap for a major tent pole release for mid-summer."
Isn't summer 2009 already packed for huge releases? And let's not kid ourselves, they can drop a HP movie any day of the year and it'll make a billion dollars.
I'm a bit disappointed by the move. And yeah 2009 is pretty packed.
Check it out.
:( This made me sad.
I don't think this is a good move, no way it will do well against Hannah Montana.
I called that shit without even reading the books, also I remember now I did see the last one, it was horrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by bbobb
Wow. Those are some mind boggling omissions. I knew there was an uphill battle on this one because of the missing story and relationship between Harry and Snape, but this sounds too ridiculous to be true. There is a long time before release so hopefully they pull it together.
wow,yeah, sounds like they need to fix the final third of the movie... stat.
I'm not sure when this was released, but I don't recall seeing this trailer before.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/har...lfbloodprince/
I think it was released a couple weeks ago. I really hope they do this one some justice. It seems like with each movie release the books and the movies grow further and further apart, and more shit gets left out.
I personally really want to see all those memories that are told in the book, I don't want to see any of them cut.
Does anyone know if they actually went back and filmed some of the shit that was first cut from the movie before it was delayed?
The last I read (from the director I think) said that they were finishing the movie on time for the original November release. The movie is done on schedule, the studio moved it on their own decision (blaming a void made by the writers strike; see post 34).
Oh man, this movie is going to be a travesty.
From the Wiki-page (which coincides with the two Chicago test screening reviews from earlier this year)
So let us review...Quote:
There are a number of changes from the book in the film. Much of the book's ending has been changed, with the climactic battle and Dumbledore's funeral being removed. Heyman commented that the end battle was removed to "[avoid] repetition" with the forthcoming adaptation of Deathly Hallows. The funeral was removed as it did not fit with the rest of the film.[71] The collapse of a Muggle bridge mentioned briefly in the book serves as the film's opening sequence.[72] Scenes of Diagon Alley being demolished by Death Eaters and an attack on the Burrow by Bellatrix Lestrange and werewolf Fenrir Greyback are added, as can be seen in the trailers. All but two of the memory scenes, including that of the Gaunts, have been cut. Only the flashbacks of Tom Riddle at the orphanage and Riddle asking Slughorn about Horcruxes (shown twice) remain.[72] Yates said they made the decision to compress the memories, but still "got some really cool ones".[73] Characters who are cut include the Dursleys, Kreacher, Dobby, Bill and Fleur, Rufus Scrimgeour, and the Muggle Prime Minister. However, Quidditch[74], being excluded from the previous film, returns. Bellatrix Lestrange will also participate in the battle of the astronomy tower, whereas she did not in the book, as seen in a picture with the Carrows and Greyback, celebrating Dumbledore's death. In the book, on the Hogwarts Express, after he is petrified and hidden under his Invisibility Cloak by Malfoy, Harry is rescued by Nymphadora Tonks. In the film, Luna Lovegood saves him instead, using her Spectrespecs to find him, as is evident in the trailers. The Spectrespecs are present in the book, but unimportant, and Luna likely saves Harry either so she has more screentime or because its much more convenient to have a student already on the train save Harry than to have to wait for Tonks to arrive.
-All but two memory scenes (easily the most fascinating part of the book) are now gone.
-We've removed multiple characters which make moderate to important appearances in the last movie(s), yet since that last movie is now two movies and the screenwriter basically said it will be as accurate to its source material as this one isn't, well a lot of these characters won't be making much sense at all, especially when they just pop up and start acting like a bunch of shit happened that didn't. Oh it should have happened, but it didn't.
-The battle between the Order and Deatheaters is gone. Not watered down. Just completely removed.
-If you've read they book, then you're probably wondering what happens after the Astronomy tower scene since there is no battle going on. Well let me help you out with that. Nothing. The Deatheaters just walk out of the school after killing Dumbledore.-
-Also, Dumbledore sends Harry for help instead of freezing him and while he hides and watches what happens above him through the cracks in the ceiling Snape comes and apparently SHUSHES Harry before going to kill Dumbledore.. So that's cool. So much for creating suspense for those who didn't read the books.
-Dumbledore's funeral is gone.
Now, I'm a pretty reasonable guy when it comes to book adaptions and having to deal with what needs to be cut and what doesn't, usually for the greater good of the movie as a whole. This is not one of those situations. This is completely ridiculous. All of those cuts hurt the story. All of them. The omission of these things doesn't streamline the movie, or make it flow better. It just hurts the story in ways that are so completely obvious. It's not that it just hurts this story though, it really fucking hurts the next one. As in, so much of the next movie is not going to make a lick of sense if what the screenwriter said about how they are using the "two movie format" is true.
The best part about all this though, is that they actually added more teenage dating scenes to fill in the gaps. Because cutting out that much of the actual plot, left gaps. Gaps that needed filling with British teenagers wanting to bang.
I'm crossing my fingers they used this extra time to listen to the poor test screening this had a few months ago, but I really doubt it.
Wow, it sounds like they're really fucking this shit up. Not having the funeral... WTF seriously.
Its been going down this path more and more with each movie. It was like 1 and 2 were fucking spot on, and then they just continued to drift further and further from the books. I mean fuck they made Cho be the one who sold them out in the last movie, wtf was that horseshit. Why the fuck did they cut Kreecher from this one, they brought him back into movie 5 because JK was like you might want to have him around with what happens in book 7. So how do they follow that up, remove him from movie 6!
Fucking idiots. You know IMHO if they made the actors sign multi-film agreements they should have made the original directors and screenwriters do the same. I think that's a huge problem, the fact that so many directors and screenwriters have touched these stories.
1 & 2 were pretty spot on (with 2 being I think one of the most accurate book adaptions I've ever seen on film). However we need to remember 1 & 2 were also very short books. I have to say, Chris Columbus did a pretty decent job for a guy with pretty much zero real movie credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
I think 3 is probably the best movie of the bunch, and the most accurate adaption we could possibly expect as the books became larger and less adaptable. I think they should have done whatever it would have taken to keep Alfonso Cuaron (and some rumors say they did and he just didn't want to commit), and we'd have been fine.
Mike Newell's Goblet of Fire was average and devoid of soul.
David Yates was stylish and hit the right notes at parts, but he got cut happy and it showed in Order of the Phoenix. The substance wasn't there, when the movie itself gave the impression that it should have been. I gave him a break because they brought him in during production and I just assumed he didn't have time to really flesh it out and was impressed with what he was able to accomplish mood wise. And I'm sorry, not having the Harry freaking out in Dumbledore's office scene was a huge letdown. Still I cut him some slack.
But not anymore. Especially since this is what he is about to do to the next one. He's directing like a guy who not only has never read the source material, but like someone who has asked everyone around him to leave him in the dark about it, or keep their mouth shut if they have. You'd assume one person on set would be like "Y'know Dave, umm you really can't have Snape wink and shush Harry because people are supposed think he's a bad guy, and it turns out it's kind of the biggest plot point in the final book."
I mean that's an easy fix for christ sake. It's not like you have to do any more than shoot the sequence over and just have him ignore Harry.
It's just depressing when you see a story you care about turned into a movie, and with months to go, you already know it's going to be a disaster. Not just for the people who read the books and care, but for the studio and director that doesn't realize how close to losing people forever they are. I'm willing to bet these changes are bad enough that if they were generally well known, a lot more people than they are expecting wouldn't bother seeing it.
They are lucky the larger Harry Potter fanbase seems blissfully unaware at the moment.
I heard that Snape doesn't kill Dumbledore with Deatheaters, instead he makes it looks as though McGonagall did.
With the 8 month delay they really should have addressed these issues. I've been okay with the changes they've made so far, I can see the reasons here and there. If you want the full story you read the books, but if this shit is true it's pretty much a different story entirely now. The motivations and purpose of so many characters is completely lost or confused. This book was fantastic, the back stories/flashbacks were really the essence to it and the end is integral to the last book.
How did Rowling sign off on the script if it's like this?
She didn't. She's kept herself mostly separate from the movie adaptions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
I've heard they haven't done shit during the delay, and that they've focused more on filming the new movies, then going back and fixing any of the BS in the last one.
I know they started filming a few weeks ago, I could have sworn Rowling had more than a passing glance of approval for the movies. She talks with the producers and directors. This just seems really bizarre.
I don't think she has any kind of Say or Approval on the scripts though. I think she kept her self separated from that. I know when they wanted to cut kreecher from movie 5, she told them that with what happens in Book 7 that would be a bad idea, but that they could do what ever they wanted.
I remember her pulling that shit with Kreacher, and after seeing the movie going, "Wow, that was the most important flaw she wanted corrected?" "Fucking Kreacher?"
I think John's right, it's pretty obvious she has nothing to do with this shit at this point. No one in their right mind would allow their material to be changed this drastically if they had any say in it.
I wanna say I read somewhere, and this is what set me off about it a bit ago, that Yates had wanted to make this a full blown comedy. I started thinking to myself, "He can't be fucking serious..." and apparently it's all been down hill since then.
Well I know the reason they had this delay was purely financial, even stating the movie was supposed to premiere in Britain in November. Our information about it comes from a Chicago test screening that was done and very poorly received from the people who got to see it. Ever since then there has been the false hope that they intended to fix it, but as we get closer and closer, it's looking more and more unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
So if they have been adding scenes from a reshoot they've managed to keep it so quiet no website has reported on it.
I know the movie hasn't been touched, it was done in time for the November release. My above statement is just fan hope of what should have been changed from what we heard in those Chicago screenings.
By the sounds of it, more than a simple week long reshoot is needed. If something as big as the fight of the end of the book is gone, 8 months ago probably wasn't early enough to fix it. They finished the movie on time and the schedule to get Deathly Hollows filmed was well under way. Just bummer news.
New Trailer. Still absolutely stunned at the changes/omissions but I gotta say, they are certainly going all out for their trailers on this. It's unfortunate how much of the emotional experience will be lost on those who never read the books without some of those scenes.
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/har...lfbloodprince/
David Yates was the worst thing to happen to this series. Personally I think they should have kept Chris Columbus directing, or at least in the producer role he had for the 3rd one. I just watched the first 3 movies again over the last few days, and they were fucking awesome. Everything went downhill as soon as Columbus was out of the picture, and then when Yates came in to direct it just shot everything into shitsville.
I know this is an old ass post BUT, I've been watching some of the special features from the movies and it becomes apparent that she was pretty involved in the first like 3 maybe 4 and since then its only been a passing kind of thing. Which is weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rumpy
It really does suck to see what's happened to this series, and to see the stuff that they even set up in movies 1 - 3 get totally ignored and forgotten about in the later movies. They really never should have changed directors or the main team behind these movies. Biggest mistake they ever made.
The third film was best and that one wasn't by Chris Columbus, if I remember correctly.
Absolutely true. Aflonso Curan (Children of Men) directed it. However we are judging accuracy as well, and Columbus was about as accurate as it gets with book adaptions, even to the sacrifice of the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
He'd kill himself if he had to cut anything though, so I think Curan would have been by far the best guy to direct it all going forward.
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Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Now I havent read all the books yet, I just started book 6, so im staying away from all the spoilers in this thread. You guys have me worried reading the bits that arent spoil tagged - BUT arent they splitting the final book into two separate movies? I read it was for the sole fact that they werent intending on cutting anything from that book. I wish I could find the article.
Movie 3 is by far the best, but I love them all in their own way. Now at first, movie 5 was the first one I was truely disappointed that some of the scenes that were missing from the book (Im pissed they didnt touch on why Harry stays at his Aunt's house - and filmed more of the Aunt's bits from the beginnging of that book) - but after repeat viewings I kinda like movie 5 for what it is. Its not like it was a bad movie. The Luna scenes in the movie are excellent. Movie 5 had a different writer from the rest, and the same writer (Kloves) from 1-4 is back on 6. Maybe that has something to do with it. If you watch interviews of the earlier films, Kloves seemed to work very closely with JR on every script.
My point is maybe everything will be ok by the time the final movie(s) come out, and im hoping you guys are exaggerating a bit.
This just in:
I had to edit that, that's just being a dick for dicks sake. I mean come on.
That's not going to happen because if it's all in there, 90% of it won't make sense to the movie going audience. Even without the huge cuts in Half-Blood, the books and movies are different stories.Quote:
- BUT arent they splitting the final book into two separate movies? I read it was for the sole fact that they werent intending on cutting anything from that book. I wish I could find the article.
The trailer looks awesome though.
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Originally Posted by Rumpy
I agree with the logic, but according to the photos and set reports of DH, they are filming the scenes after they escape the wedding this week.
Now I'm really trying not to nitpick here, but since we have had no build up on that, you'd assume that would be one of the first things cut. Especially since Ron's older brother hasn't been in any of the films, and Fleur apparently isn't even mentioned in HPB (or at least from what I've read of the screenings) this boils down to a complete disaster from a storytelling standpoint. Don't even get me started on Dobby, or the mirror from the House of Black, or God knows what else.
Not to mention that the producer, Dave Heyman, went so far as to say that DH is pretty much the most accurate of the adaptions (I'll believe it when I see it) but the fact that the whole wedding ridiculousness appears to actually still be in the movie at the moment is just, well completely absurd. Mind you, if you're thinking I care a lot about them distancing themselves from the books, I really don't anymore. I've accepted it. It's the fact that the movies are moving away from each other so drastically that's starting to scare me.
I will say this, if both things turn out to be true and HBP is the most fucked up of all the adaptions and DH is the most accurate it's going to be one hell of a train wreck.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by epmode
Anyone go last night? Had the biggest midnight opening ever apparently. I'd like to hear if the bad changes from the early screenings are all there.
I like the Harry Potter movies. I will try and see this one over the weekend.
And no, I've never read any of the books.
You should if you like the movies. You can skip the first book, the movie is pretty much the book page by page. They get much better as it goes on.
I know 3 friends who saw it last night and they all said the same thing. Basically that the changes cause the events to loose all their impact, they completely fuck up the snape kills dumbledor event at the end, totally fuck up the set up for the last movies and doing an all around awesome job at ruining a story that worked. I'll probably try to see it for myself some time this week.
El Guapo from Latino Review who read the books said the exact opposite.
Well my one friend could pretty much dictate everything that happened in every one of the books off the top of her head. I'm gonna side with her on this one. During the final climatic scene, when Snape kills Dumbledor, Harry is neither under a petrification spell, nor is he hiding under his invisibility cloak. The whole big fight at the end, with the death eaters attacking kids, that in the next book causes everyone to fear them for their kids safety, seems it doesn't happen that way, it was almost made to seem like to me like they just walked out of the castle like nothing happened. Basically the 3 people I talked to who none of them know each other said the first half was mostly good, the second half completely ruined everything. Which I believe, they pulled that shit in the last few movies. Taking these huge gigantic climatic scenes, or things that pay off later on and changing them so they can fit in some more teen romance. Sucks that the series is ending this way, cause I thought movies 1 - 3 did a pretty damn good job of portraying the books.
He downplays the changes and thinks it works out well in the end. I'm still leery about it, guess I have to wait to see it to really see how drastic the changes are. The other review by Ron is...weird. He said he stopped reading at book 4 so he seemed pretty lost. Very different takes on the movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Advocate
saw it last night.
I liked who they cast for the new teacher
They did shit all to hide that snape is a double double agent meaning that he is killing dumbledore to make himself look evil so the other evil people trust him
and the ending part with snape is so bad it is funny.
shush harry, I'm off to kill Dumbledore =D
I ended up seeing this twice already. Great movie. It will be interesting to see what Davy Jones does for Scrimgoer in the next two films.
And yes I have read all the books. I don't find myself missing too many of the little details because these films MOVE.
I'm not holding my breath for Charlie Weasley to show up in the next one since they've managed to work around him thus far.
3 was my fav, and was directed by Mexican film maker Alfonso Cuarón. The first two are, imo, shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
Edit: Which has been pointed out.
David Yates didn't direct until 5.
5 was a good movie, I think. This one wasn't terrible. It actually felt a lot more like the Columbus movies. Lots of silence, scenes with no music, characters staring at each other.
This one was, I think, a good adaptation of one of the worse books. It's hard to believe half the shit going on considering the atmosphere and people dropping dead left and right both in the movie and the book.
Slughorn was great. So was Snape, but he's always been pretty good. Casting really worked well here. I still don't like new Dumbledore but he does well here I think. Warmer, a little. Friendlier.
Bill's gotta get married still.
I don't really think these films "move" all that much all the time. This one lingered on the teen romance and moved quickly through some other sequences that I'm more interested in, but honestly I feel like this was one of the more faithful adaptations, really hit on every salient point without changing around the order of events too much.
I'm not looking forward to seeing what happens to the Weasley twins.
shush, I'm off to kill Dumbledoor
This movie was crap.They put the focus on the tween romance bullshit and left out the stuff they really shouldnt have: the Deatheaters fighting in Hogwarts, Dumbledores funeral, more Tom Riddle/Voldemort memories.And yeah, they completely borked up the latter half of the movie with the Snape scenes somehow.
But,ugh,just plain boring most of the time. I read the book and dont remember it as being nearly this bad.
I really,really liked the last movie too.Saw it twice in the theater actually.So way disappointed in this one.
So basically the stuff that was good: Slughorn (this guy played him great), the second generation Tom Riddle in Slugs memory (the kid just nailed the evil role and facial mannerisms...whoever he was), the Twins' joke shop, the inferi scene,....and....thats about it.Oh, the hot babe in the train station at the beginning too.Which oddly kind of weirded me out that a late 20 something supermodel was macking on a 'younger' (16 year old?) Harry.And I guess Dumbledore really is gay because he cockblocked the shit out of Harry on that one...
Very worried on how Deathly Hollows will be handled now...
Yeah it was pretty boring.
It's just incredible to me they didn't use the layoff to fix this shit. The book itself has one real merit (well, besides the memories and Harry Dumbledore interaction) and that is as a setup/cliffhanger.
It's like Yates said, "I don't need a set up, I can just do this shit on the fly." I'm also convinced he is purposefully avoiding the emotional, dramatic scenes in these movies because he hates adding emotional weight to his shots, or even worse he's avoiding them because he wants to save it all for the end. I just don't get it. You can't direct with an intention to back this shit into the final act, especially when they've missed hitting the nail on the head in so many scenes in the last few movies. Whoever reads these books cannot honestly tell me the horcrux plot is less interesting than the teenage romance.
Silly way to handle the this book. It's going to take a miracle for Deathly Hallows to fly no matter how accurate it winds up being.
I disagree with pretty much all of this. All of the movies after 3 have been terrible. They've taken all the emphasis out of the huge events that are happening and start making the teen romance the focus of the stories. They've just gotten worse and worse and worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
I knew not to listen to you assholes. Yall posted those movie spoilers MONTHS ago. I didnt click the spoiler links for months - and im thinking they changed stuff as serious as who killed who. But after highlighting the black text, thats it? They didnt ruin shit im sorry. Some of the setup maybe be tampered and yeah stuff is cut out and its disappointing to see it gone but the movie worked.
Like this dude for example:
Really thats your beef? Aint nothing to go all apeshit about sorry bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
EVERYTHINGS RUINED! Nah sorry. I called it, completely exaggerated nerd shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Johnpv
So anyway the movie was excellent. Probably the best one since 3, although im a big fan of 1 myself. Great casting on the new bits, the best acting so far - and its surprisingly more focused on the characters than in your face action and magic moments which was a nice change of pace. The funniest movie of them all by far and Luna still rocks. The movie's look was very rich and filmed very similar to 3 which is a good thing. Visually very nice to look at. I love how they revisit so many scenes and sceney from the first set of movies. I will admit the end bits were moving way too fast and they seemed a bit rushed but the movie worked as a whole.
While it would have been cool to see the Dumbledore trade off with the Dursleys from the beginning of the book but we got a scene with a mega hot black brit chick. I aint gonna complain.
Whatever John, you're wrong.
Because all the movies have been pretty terrible except 3.
Why in the fuck would this series not want to focus on action magicy moments? Thats what makes these movies original. I can go into any Blockbuster video in my area and find an awkward teen bro-mance movie done better than this without even trying. And they just kept beating us over the head with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro777
Funniest thing in the movie was "All Hands on Deck!". the rest? Oh look Ron fell off the couch! hahahahahaha, uh, [slaps leg] :|Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro777
How did it work as a whole when the ending was so screwed? The whole movie was basically "tee-hee, I love you Ron,WHY dont you love me?!"" and then at the end it was all, "oh-shit yeah heres some horcruxes and stuff, obtw Im the Prince and thats my book kbye".Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro777
The Deatheaters walked out of fucking Hogwarts.Hell they walked through Hogwarts virtually unchallenged. And then when Dumbledore dies we get a few tears from Hermione,Harry bawling, and everyone else with emotionless faces holding their wands in the air.
I'll say it again. David Yates hates fucking emotion.
It is however, by no means a terrible movie. It just absolutely fails to convey it's most important points.
We shall just have to agree to disagree. I enjoyed the first 3. The last 3 just have taken the point of each of the different books thrown them out the window and said hey lets focus on teen age romance instead of big bad evil death happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowutopia
Oh the magic stuff is still there - in fact theres more subtle background magic than Yates' last one. Im talking boom boom hollywood summer flick action at every turn. And even when it was there it kicked ass (Burrow scene). But these stories about about far more than the magic. These characters have damn near reached classic status and since half of them were shoved to the side in 5 - it was nice to see them back on the center stage. I would even argue that some scenes, like Slughorns introduction, are done better in this movie than the book. And the movie was funny man, you need to lighten up. With such an all around sad story they had to brighten it up in bits.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetman
The ending wasnt screwed only a bit rushed. The silent scene with the empty dinner hall I thought it was pretty powerful in comparison to every other finale of these movies. I disagree with your last paragraph. It worked as a whole because we got almost all of the elements of the HP movies in this one. Classes, Quidditch (the best of any movie), Diagon Alley, train ride, funny stuff, Hagrid, TONS of different locations, extended burrow (more than any other movie), great character work with slughorn and the kids, and the staple climax. The last couple focused on Harry and key moments at a laser pace so it was nice to see the back to basics for probably the last time - as I havent read the final book yet but I cant imagine it going thru that same pattern.Quote:
How did it work as a whole when the ending was so screwed? The whole movie was basically "tee-hee, I love you Ron,WHY dont you love me?!"" and then at the end it was all, "oh-shit yeah heres some horcruxes and stuff, obtw Im the Prince and thats my book kbye".
The Order was a great movie, a ton of stuff was taken out but it still worked well. Got most of the major stuff but it skips the real details of the story (the big changes really started with Goblet). You'd think they'd keep the most important plot elements the same and front and center to the audience. I really dug this book too, I need to read it again.
I give Harry 6 a 4/5, I loved it, this is now my second favorite of the movies, second to the third film.
I'm a huge fan of the books, and one of the things I am REALLY glad I did was not reread the book before seeing the movie. I'm done with that, every single time I do that I end up liking the book but hating the movie, when you don't read the book before hand you stand a better chance of being able to like both the book and movie seperately from one another.
I thought order of the pheonix was the worst in the series, it was so dead and lifeless, wheras this movie is far more alive. It was surprisingly funny too, I laughed from begining to end, all the little teen love plots were excellent and are some of the best stuff in this entire series of movies. My only complaint was that the movie's ending had nowhere near the epic emotional impact of the book, oh well.
Just saw this, I love how 99% of the Half-Blood Prince stuff is completely missing from the movie, thus missing a large part of the point of the book and making Snape's last minute "I'M THE HALF-BLOOD PRINCE" comment seem completely out of nowhere and loltastic.
It was pretty obvious as the movie went along that it was going to be snape or one of the other teachers.
Oh, you mean the tacked on scene that wasnt in the book at all with Harry and Genny running through the reeds blocking random attacks from the dark? The end duel in Order with Dumbledore/Voldemort and the Deatheaters vs. the D.A. was way more impressive imo.Quote:
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? No, its about magic and plot and focusing on characters other than JUST Ron,Harry,and Genny, and giving us shots of Draco crying in the corner every 2 seconds.Quote:
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I dont know. Not to insult anyones sense of humor around here but maybe the humor was just geared toward a younger crowd.Most of my audience seemed to be laughing at Lavender jumping all over Ron and the Love potion stuff.That just didnt do it for me and I could have done without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro777
Basically we only saw 3 people reacting to Dumbledores death.The rest were almost emotionless or too stunned which equates to the same thing.Not nearly as powerful as a funeral could have been, but maybe they are saving that for the start of Deathly Hollows for some reason.Quote:
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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, I thought all of those except the Slughorn stuff was completely lacking.I mean they threw all of those elements like you said in the movie, they just werent interesting except for Slughorn and the Joke shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Destro777
Instead of seeing Hagrid mumble drunkenly and cry over the spider, hows about they show him shrugging off Deatheaters' spells in Hogwarts because of his half-giant heritage and talk about his family?
I didnt think the Quidditch was the best, it was like try-outs with Ron blocking a bunch of shots with his head, then later Ron blocking a bunch of shots at the end of the season. <shrugs> Not nearly the best Quidditch.And it didnt seem like there were TONS of locations as compared to any of the other movies.They all had about the same.
I dont know, dude. Maybe you're drinking the hype Kool-Aid and are watching it with blinders or maybe Im just being a jaded idiot like TNL has taught me over the years :p . The 'righter' answer is probably somewhere inbetween our two opinions.
no, jaded TNL is the right answer
No, you're quite right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetman
The elimination of the Order/Deatheater's fight and the more interesting of Voldemort's memories, really made this not work for me. I could deal with all the other bullshit faggy teenage romance amplifications if those two things hadn't been changed.
As I said above, it is a competent movie that completely fails to convey it's main plot points.
Yeah I wonder why they didn't do the battle at the end. All the Death Eaters just kind of walked out. Maybe that's Yates trying to give us time to let Dumbledore dying "sink in"?
And yeah, they skipped a lot of the memories.
Pretty lame movie overall, but it was a pretty lame book too.
I'm surprised they didn't show the battle even more because Harry saved Felix Felicis and in the end of the book they all split it so they can stay alive.
Yeah, the lack of battle at the end completely shot the movie down. I think the turning point was Harry slicing up Draco, with zero consequence, and after that the movie completely lost interest in itself. Too bad, I was having a great time up until then.
I like most of the other movies, but this one just wasn't very good.
Incredibly anticlimactic ending, too much teen romance, etc.
I forgot a lot of what happened in the book. Yeah, Yawa's right, they cut out a bunch of stuff that would have made it way better.