The worst night of my life (so far)

So I was pulled over in San Diego last night at 420am because I was going 85 on the freeway. I had partied earlier in Tijuana, and had had my last drink at about 10pm (I'm sure you can all see where this is going). I had 3 big tacos at about 1am, and took a 40 minute nap at about 330am. So I had gotten up from my nap walked around, and was sober as fuck, so I decided to make the drive with my friend back home to Orange County.

I got on the freeway, and we were bullshitting about whatever back and forth to keep each other awake, when I saw the CHP pulling me over. I pulled off the freeway and parked at the end of an offramp. Officer douchebag came around to my window were I was coming from, and what I had to drink (vodka), so he did the follow my finger with your eyes routine, which I had promptly aced, then took my info back the the cruiser, he came back and did the finger thing one more time, and then he asked me how old I was. I said 20, and he gave me a surprised "20?!" in response (I figured he looked at my 21 in 2007, and didn't read past that).

So he pulls me out of my car, brings me to the curb and gives me a breathalysers test. I do it, and I blow a .049/.049 (anything over a .01 is illegal if you're under 21) So he writes me up, and gives me a "driving with alcohol in your system when you're under 21" citation which comes with a unpleasant 1 year suspension.

That's the major bummer of all this is the suspension. That is unbelievably brutal in southern california. :cry:

To make the night worse, they towed and impounded my car, then dropped us off at a safe well lit area at 445am. A 7/11. I called the impound yard and they said I couldn't pick it up until 9am, so my friend and I who didn't have a charged cellphones decided to wait in a Macdonald's across the street from the 7/11. We waited in that god forsaken Macdonald's for 4hours. I never want to see another inside of a McDonald's again. While we were waiting though, there were a lot of interesting people that came in and out, most notably a 50yo druggy who decided to be very talkative to us. He was cleaning his crack pipe, and then rolled a joint in front of us inside mcdonalds. His loony friend and his 70yo dirty ass girlfriend joined him, and then he bought some weed from them by dumping the goods on the table, and then taking and putting it in his baggy.

Finally it was nearing 9am and we called a cab, who's driver didn't speak english and didn't know where he was going; so 4 miles, many minutes, and $15 later we got to the impound lot.
The sign said $160 to get out the cars impounded there. However it turns out the CHP has a special rate of $325 for cars they impound! fuckkk! so i wait until almost nine, and a girl popped her head out of the counter, and asked us if she can help us, and we said that yeah she could, but noticed it wasn't 9 yet, and asked her if she was open. She replied "yes, we're open all night, who told you we open at 9?".

thus capping off my night (not mentioning the hour and a half drive I made home after that.

Does anyone have any experience in turning around the suspension of the license? The officers said I have to call the a certain DMV number within 10 days if I want to try (which I do, and which I will), but does anyone have any protips? Also, my court date isn't until 2/17/08, so I'm going to see if I can get the judge to reduce my speeding ticket, and if he has any authority with the suspension then maybe talk to him too.

Since I've never even gotten a speeding ticket, I won't be much help, but this story does raise an interesting question. Does genetics, poor parenting, or just pure coincidence create two fuck up kids in the same family?

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Since I've never even gotten a speeding ticket, I won't be much help, but this story does raise an interesting question. Does genetics, poor parenting, or just pure coincidence create two fuck up kids in the same family?

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Har, good one. I'm as far away from fucked up as can be. This is the first major unfortunate incident I've been involved in. And I had a blood alcohol oh .49, which is about half of what the legal limit is if you're over 21. Yeah, I was wrong, and I'm not proclaiming to be innocent, I'm just saying that you're clueless.

Oh fuck off Yoshi, you're the least fun person on the planet; and a genuine douchebag.

That sucks man, I hope you can get it figured out.

And in case anyone misunderstood, I didn't get a DUI. I don't have to go to AA or any of those places, because I wasn't drunk. I was driving with alcohol in my system, which like I said still constitutes a suspension, but isn't a DUI (no jail for me).

Funny...but cruel.

Also ridiculous to be angry about someone driving with a BAC of .04

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

Oh fuck off Yoshi, you're the least fun person on the planet; and a genuine douchebag.

That sucks man, I hope you can get it figured out.

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i've learned from Yoshi that no matter how brash he makes it, there's always a bit of truth to everyhing he says.

i myself got a DUI two years ago. i look back on it now and realize i was an idiot. plain and simple. just be glad you weren't 21. you can get in some serious shit when you're legal.

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Originally Posted by Dyne

i myself got a DUI two years ago. i look back on it now and realize i was an idiot. plain and simple. just be glad you weren't 21. you can get in some serious shit when you're legal.

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What? If he was 21, he would have gotten off with a speeding ticket.

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Originally Posted by Rich

What? If he was 21, he would have gotten off with a speeding ticket.

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I turn 21 in 3 weeks. :(

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Originally Posted by Rich

What? If he was 21, he would have gotten off with a speeding ticket.

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just looked at his BAC. the point still stands tho if your
"legally drunk".

Right, but I wasn't legally drunk (I didn't even drink THAT much during the course of the night either). I waited 6 hours from my last drink until I drove. That's acceptable in my eyes. It's just a bitch because I'm 20. That's why I'm not proclaiming innocence, and am aware that I am legally wrong.
But this doesn't make me an bad person; it just makes me poor, and helplessly stuck.

I listen to a band called Millions of Dead Cops. That gives you an idea of where I come from on this.

The best lesson you can learn is that actions have consequences and that you are responsible for them. It doesn't matter how close you are to 21, how little alcohol was in your system, or how unlucky you were.

And you're not even remotely the only person who needs to learn this. It's a huge and growing issue in our society.

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Originally Posted by Criticom

Har, good one. I'm as far away from fucked up as can be. This is the first major unfortunate incident I've been involved in. And I had a blood alcohol oh .49, which is about half of what the legal limit is if you're over 21.

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You mean "0.049"? If you had a .49 you'd probably be dead.

If I were you I'd request a suspension hearing immediately. Better check on the penalties for an underage drinking and driving conviction in California, too. Here in Arizona it's a criminal offense and it buys you a two-year driver's license suspension, even if you turn 21 during the suspension period.

Consult a licensed California attorney. Hell, contact Nash, maybe you can be his first paying client.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

The best lesson you can learn is that actions have consequences and that you are responsible for them. It doesn't matter how close you are to 21, how little alcohol was in your system, or how unlucky you were.

And you're not even remotely the only person who needs to learn this. It's a huge and growing issue in our society.

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I honestly hope to god that you're not the model on which to build a society. The world we live in is infinitely better then that, and it's really shitty.

Yeah, I think a lot of people (hell, most people) can drive perfectly fine with a .049. I'm with you there.

But dude, you had to have known that the limit is super low under 21, and you were going 85. Were you trying to get pulled over?

Honestly Crit, you're probably going to have to deal with the suspension. They can grant you driving allowances yto and from work or school (if you're in college or a trade school) but that's about it. If you get caught on a non-work-route driving they'll nail you hard. My brother got caught in a similar situation in Ohio, with a .055 2 weeks before his 21st. He didn't get out of it.

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Originally Posted by sleeve

You mean "0.049"? If you had a .49 you'd probably be dead.

If I were you I'd request a suspension hearing immediately. Better check on the penalties for an underage drinking and driving conviction in California, too. Here in Arizona it's a criminal offense and it buys you a two-year driver's license suspension, even if you turn 21 during the suspension period.

Consult a licensed California attorney. Hell, contact Nash, maybe you can be his first paying client.

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Yes, I do mean .049, my mistake.
It's a one year suspension and a fine in California I believe. I'm requesting the hearing tomorrow with the DMV tomorrow when it opens, and yeah, I should probably consult an attorney. I was just going to plead my case on my own, but yeah, despite the extra money, it'd be helpful since he'd know any angles. Thank you for the first piece of real advice.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

And you're not even remotely the only person who needs to learn this. It's a huge and growing issue in our society.

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We'll never let you fucks win.

Remember kids: Yoshi is the enemy, not terrorists.

Us fucks? You mean responsible people? Just do us a favor and make sure it's a single car accident when you do something fucking stupid and kill yourself.

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Originally Posted by Frogacuda

But dude, you had to have known that the limit is super low under 21, and you were going 85. Were you trying to get pulled over?

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Honestly sleep was more the enemy than any alcohol. I would have felt it more justified if he wrote me up for that. And I didn't realize how fast I was going. It's a new car, and I'm used to having my 94 civic regulate my speed for me by shaking dramatically going anything over 70.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Us fucks? You mean responsible people? Just do us a favor and make sure it's a single car accident when you do something fucking stupid and kill yourself.

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I've never been drunk in my life.

And I didn't mention drinking in that post at all.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

Us fucks? You mean responsible people? Just do us a favor and make sure it's a single car accident when you do something fucking stupid and kill yourself.

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Jesus, you have selective comprehension. It was a 0.049. I wasn't gonna kill anyone. I didn't get a DUI. Its only because I'm underage, not because I'm a drunk alcoholic. I hardly party at all. This is the first time in three weeks I had a drink. I'm one of those functional members of this shitty society you're proclaiming exists. I go to college, I'm 3 semesters away from my degree. I have a 3.96gpa, blah stats, blah awards. Not that any of that matters, but that seems to be what you're looking for in a society.

If I do however get in an accident (un-alcohol related), I hope i hit you. The world would be a better place.

You know what you were implying. I don't do drugs either if you want to go that route.

And by "You fucks" I mean people that insist on punishment for everything whether it's right or wrong. And people who look down on the rest of society from an ivory tower. I'd have thought you'd have some experience with people hating you for nothing you can/want-to change.

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Originally Posted by Criticom

I go to college, I'm 3 semesters away from my degree. I have a 3.96gpa, blah stats, blah awards. Not that any of that matters, but that seems to be what you're looking for in a society.

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I went to college and have a degree as well, but Yoshi doesn't seem to understand that schooling, money, and respectablility are not the only way to measure someone.

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Originally Posted by Nomi

Honestly Crit, you're probably going to have to deal with the suspension. They can grant you driving allowances yto and from work or school (if you're in college or a trade school) but that's about it. If you get caught on a non-work-route driving they'll nail you hard. My brother got caught in a similar situation in Ohio, with a .055 2 weeks before his 21st. He didn't get out of it.

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Yeah, I also take care of my grandma (it's just her and I). She's 85, and I take her to dinner, and pick up meals for her. She can no longer drive safely at night, and I drive he to doctors appointments, pick up her prescriptions and stuff. Do you think that might make a difference? Thats why I'm bummed out the most about this, is It'll be insanely hard to do that for her anymore without a license. Also the second resort I was going to try was to get the restricted license for school mainly (I live close enough to my work that I could walk if I have to)

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Originally Posted by Criticom

Jesus, you have selective comprehension. It was a 0.049. I wasn't gonna kill anyone. I didn't get a DUI. Its only because I'm underage, not because I'm a drunk alcoholic. I hardly party at all. This is the first time in three weeks I had a drink. I'm one of those functional members of this shitty society you're proclaiming exists. I go to college, I'm 3 semesters away from my degree. I have a 3.96gpa, blah stats, blah awards. Not that any of that matters, but that seems to be what you're looking for in a society.

If I do however get in an accident (un-alcohol related), I hope i hit you. The world would be a better place.

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I wasn't addressing you with that post.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

I went to college and have a degree as well, but Yoshi doesn't seem to understand that schooling, money, and respectablility are not the only way to measure someone.

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I did not say one thing about schooling, money, or respectability in this thread. I was talking about responsibility, and there are plenty of people who scrape out a living everyday who are very responsible and, thus, very respectable.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I wasn't addressing you with that post.

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Yet you implied the same allegations in my direction, so I feel justified in my response.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

And by "You fucks" I mean people that insist on punishment for everything whether it's right or wrong. And people who look down on the rest of society from an ivory tower. I'd have thought you'd have some experience with people hating you for nothing you can/want-to change.

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There are definitely some laws that don't make sense, and those should be changed through constitutional processes. Under age drinking and driving is not a stupid law though.

I'm sure someone somewhere dislikes me for reasons I can't or am not willing to change. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything though.

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Originally Posted by Criticom

Yet you implied the same allegations in my direction, so I feel justified in my response.

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If the shoe fits...

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

I did not say one thing about schooling, money, or respectability in this thread. I was talking about responsibility, and there are plenty of people who scrape out a living everyday who are very responsible and, thus, very respectable.

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No you didn't. It's what you have said in other threads over the 7 years I've been posting on a message board with you that have shaped my view of you.

I don't think responsibility has anything to do with what's going on in this thread. Crit did the responsible thing and waited until he was sober to drive.

I have more to say but I need to go to work.

You sound like an overprotected wimp. I can inform you that life will offer you worse nights, in due time.

ps. How do the 3 big tacos fit into the story? I was hoping they would somehow resurface near the end of the story.

He shat all over your Denmark face.

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Originally Posted by Criticom

I waited 6 hours from my last drink until I drove. That's acceptable in my eyes.

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What's acceptable in your eyes is of no consequence or matter. It sucks that you were busted with an unacceptable level so close to your 21st, but you did (and you knew it was illegal).

You did the crime, now you have to do the time. Welcome to adulthood!

Exactly.

Why were you going 85? That's a ridiculously irresponsible speed to be going regardless of your sobriety.

I think if you know you've been drinking, you shouldn't drive.
Even if you 'feel' sober.

In reality, you may get your suspension dropped. Just tell them you need your car for school and things like that. Say your sorry and you won't drink again when you know you may drive.

Don't be rude or arrogant, or you will not get any favors.

Be the nice kid and you may get off with a small speeding ticket.

What jonas said. Don't drink and drive.

I have zero sympathy for you. I can see getting nailed for speeding, or getting nailed for the alcohol, but you're an idiot for speeding after drinking. You deserve the suspension.

I'd have to agree. 85 is srs business even without alchohol in your system. I'm not saying you can't speed. Do what you want. Just don't feel sorry for yourself when you fuck up. Correct the problem or let the law do it for you. Learn from this mistake.

This thread is awesome. Every person with a reasonable understanding of the real world has come in here and said the same thing.

85 isn't srs bsnss. It's only 10 over the limit on the highway.

I don't think you people are understanding that he wasn't drunk. At all. Even as far as the law is concerned. He was just under 21. And he drank the booze in Mexico. Where it's legal. He's getting fucked.

And as for the whole "You shouldn't drink and drive" business is concerned; I couldn't agree more. He wasn't driving drunk. My father was nearly killed by a drunk driver so that shit is srs bsnss to me. Again: HE WASN'T DRUNK.

This thread is ridiculous - if a law is bullshit, then break it and bitch about it being bullshit if you get the hammer brought down on you for it. What the fuck happened to you people? Bunch of fucking "RULES!!!!!!" bitches who forget what it's like to have any fun.

You guys are the reason things are so shitty.

It's 20 over the speed limit in most states. Don't know what Cali's limit is.

Yeah the highest you'll see the speed limit in Ohio is 65.

This thread is filled with overreaction though.

I have no sympathy for anyone who has been drinking and decides to drive and gets caught. "DRUNK" or not. Face the consequences and never do it again.

that sucks man, at least you spent the night in McDonalds, and not Jail.

If that was the worst night of your life, you've had a pretty good life.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

I don't think you people are understanding that he wasn't drunk. At all. Even as far as the law is concerned. He was just under 21. And he drank the booze in Mexico. Where it's legal. He's getting fucked.

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You can't have it both ways. You're using the legal definition of drunk but ignoring the legal definition of old enough to drive with any alcohol in your system. Pick one, and he'll be in the wrong either way.

Just live and learn man. Everybody makes mistakes, even preachers.

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Originally Posted by Hubbitron

I'd have to agree. 85 is srs business even without alchohol in your system. I'm not saying you can't speed. Do what you want. Just don't feel sorry for yourself when you fuck up. Correct the problem or let the law do it for you. Learn from this mistake.

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I don't think Crit is feeling sorry for himself at all, he just had a shitty night. He's just looking for advice.

My take on it...I got a DUI a couple of months ago with a .11, got pulled over for having a headlight out (it had been going on and off and it was tough to tell whether it was on or off unless I could see the reflection, and no, it wasn't because I wasn't drinking that I couldn't tell). It sucked that I got the DUI and all, especially because I was driving just the way anybody would've been driving, but yeah, I'm not bitching about the penalties, that's just life...anyways...

The laws in CA are different, in fact they're somewhat strange in terms of relation to PA laws. If you were here, you would've gotten a DUI for underage with anything over a .02, the same as a person driving with a .10-.15 in terms of penalties. We have a program for first time offenders and people with clean criminal records, so while the laws says I should be going to jail and getting a year suspension, I'm only getting a one month suspension, no jail time, a couple days of community service, have to take some driving classes, etc. I don't think you're going to get a restricted liscence to be honest, so you might have to bite the bullet.

Start thinking of ways to get around NOW, it seems like your liscence could get tossed pretty quick (while it'll be almost a year after my offense that it actually gets suspended) because the DMV is involved. Also, get yourself an attorney or at least consult with one, for simple non-trial services, it'll probably set you back a couple grand but he may be able to get you into some type of program. Don't go to trial either, it'll cost a whole shitload of money and you're not going to win. Also, look into a way to keep this off your criminal record. While my DUI is plastered to my driving record for at least 5 years, there'll be no criminal record of it at all.

My final advice to you would be to not drink and drive at all after this is all over with. I learned my lesson and you need to as well. If you get caught again you will get nailed to the fucking wall if it's anything like PA. You're not a shitty person, so don't get upset about it either (which I don't think you are anyway), everybody makes mistakes and sometimes in just takes experience to learn from them. Things will work out somehow or another.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

You can't have it both ways. You're using the legal definition of drunk but ignoring the legal definition of old enough to drive with any alcohol in your system. Pick one, and he'll be in the wrong either way.

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He can drive after taking an Advil Cold and Sinus legally and that would fuck him up far more. The legal definition of old enough to drive with any alcohol in your system is the only thing here that's bullshit. If he had blown over the limit I'd have nothing to say in his defense.

I'm only using the legal definition of drunk to point out that he wasn't drunk. It's a fact according to the rules you love so much. Should he get a ticket for speeding? Sure, but that's all.

What makes the legal limit more magical than the age, other than the fact that it fits your bullshit stance?

I agree with Icarus to a sort. An underage drinking citation might have even been reasonable, but he's basically getting hit with the penalty of driving intoxicated when the legal definition of intoxication doesn't apply. Just because he's under 21 doesn't mean he's any worse at driving then somebody over 21 who blows a .049

I don't even know what you're saying. Age has no bearing on his ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. I think you just wanted to say my stance is bullshit. It's fine, and expected, that you would think that. You're a wretched person, so the more things we disagree on, the better.

Younger drivers are worse to begin with. Trust me. I have a degree in Actuarial Science. I understand how the insurance rates are determined, and it isn't just based on myths and stereotypes.

I think we all understand that but the law in most (if not all States) points to the fact that driving below a .08 intoxication level does not inhibit your ability to safely operate a motor vehicle. Like I said, I think an underage drinking citation would be in order, but not an offense similar to a DUI.

However, with all that being said, I may disagree with the law, but it is still a law and if you don't want to suffer the penalties, don't break it.

Now you're using fairytale logic. There's a magic moment at a persons 21st birthday that makes them capable of driving safely?

This is the problem with statistics. It's nothing but blanket statements.

:lol: You're a moron. Of course there's no magic moment, and not everyone is the same. However, with mountains of data to support it, it is a fact that younger drivers have more accidents. Their insurance rates aren't higher due to discrimination or any other bullshit. It's 100% math based on historical data.

I gave him good advice Gohron. I said learn from this mistake. The drinking and driving laws rule IMO and he got off pretty easy. If this prevents him from getting a DUI later in life it will be a godsend. MD has a no tolerance policy which makes me feel safe, not like a target. These are the kinds of laws that are in place to PROTECT the responsible drivers on the road.

I don't know how it works in CA, but I would recommend definately getting a lawyer. I don't know your financial situation, but regardless you need one. In NC, if you had a similar charge any decent lawyer would get a plea bargain that would probably net you a nice fine, but you'd keep your license.

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Originally Posted by Yoshi

However, with mountains of data to support it, it is a fact that younger drivers have more accidents. Their insurance rates aren't higher due to discrimination or any other bullshit. It's 100% math based on historical data.

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I don't/didn't refute this.

Maybe a year of reflection and suffering will change the way he drives. I hate to say this, but I totally agree with Yoshi here. I just watched my sister go through DUI hell and Crit should be happy that this is his first experience (hopefully last) with this situation.

Yeah, I know I fucked up. I've (again) never proclaimed that I didn't. I'm VERY thankful it wasn't a DUI. I'm STILL going to try to get the suspension reversed. And I won't be drinking and driving (6 hours later even) again. I'm going to fight it, and will accept whatever comes to me (mostly because I have to), but that doesn't change the fact that this sucks balls, and that it will pretty much change my life forever. In the sense that I won't be able to do this or that for a year, which will make or break certain (potential) relationships and miss opportunities. I think it's acceptable for me to be bummed about that.

I've had a very good life, and I'm normally the responsible one. So when I say it was the worst night of my life, Its true. Not because I'm a sheltered wimp, but because up until this point, I stayed out of trouble, never got a ticket, never been arrested, never had anything happen to me; mainly because I made sure of that.

Don't get that deep into it dude, it's really not that bad. It sucks, but it's terrible, ya know?

Who knows, this could even benefit you in terms of what you may figure out about yourself.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

I don't think you people are understanding that he wasn't drunk. At all. Even as far as the law is concerned. He was just under 21. And he drank the booze in Mexico. Where it's legal. He's getting fucked.

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We all understand that. But he WAS doing something illegal in a position where he couldn't afford to. So that's not smart. If he was going 70 no one would have given a shit and he wouldn't have been pulled over at all.

I do think it's worth the effort to fight it. I've learned that lesson the hard way.

yeah, it was pretty dumb to be speeding.

I don't really speed anymore unless it's a serious emergency or I'm way late for something. On the highway I generally put my car in cruise around 70mph and just chill with a cig and my music.

It sucks, but too bad, you were in the wrong and shit happens.

Actually this is one aspect where I like the Japanese law better. Here if you drink ANY alcohol, even a sip, you're over the legal limit. No matter how old you are. It definitely makes shit like this not exist, and it's a lot easier knowing if you drink then you don't drive or vice versa.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

I listen to a band called Millions of Dead Cops. That gives you an idea of where I come from on this.

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I still have one of their cassette tapes.

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Originally Posted by Calliander

Why were you going 85? That's a ridiculously irresponsible speed to be going regardless of your sobriety.

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I drive a minimum of 85 at all times.

Believe it or not, city kids, but there are places in this country where you can generally break 90 because there's nothing better to do.

For real, if I'm on a long ass trip, I'm going at least an average of 85 the entire way. I've broken the speed limit excessively on highways and have never gotten pulled over.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

I don't think you people are understanding that he wasn't drunk. At all. Even as far as the law is concerned. He was just under 21. And he drank the booze in Mexico. Where it's legal. He's getting fucked.

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I've driven 85 and gotten a ticket. I've also driven with that much booze in me (and probably more than that). What I haven't done is driven 85 with booze in me, because that's fucking stupid and unnecessary.

If you're gonna drive after drinking, even just one drink, you need to drive like it's your 17th birthday and there is a license examiner sitting in your passenger side seat. It's really simple. My friends hated it when I would drive home from bars because I would drive like I was in a driving safety video, but I didn't give a fuck, because it wasn't their DUI on the line.

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Originally Posted by Criticom

it will pretty much change my life forever. In the sense that I won't be able to do this or that for a year, which will make or break certain (potential) relationships and miss opportunities. I think it's acceptable for me to be bummed about that.

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Yes, this sounds so much worse than finding out your brother is probably trying to blow up your country.

Come on. This sucks but it isn't the end of the world. I didn't have my first car until I was older than you and I still grew up to be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Gohron

For real, if I'm on a long ass trip, I'm going at least an average of 85 the entire way. I've broken the speed limit excessively on highways and have never gotten pulled over.

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And when you do it in the middle of the night, when there are far less cars on the road and the speed traps are harder to spot, your odds are worse.

lol same thing kinda happened to me last night but there was no drunk driver (he had a couple beers that night), instead my dumbass friend's cousin was cussing out some security guard for no reason whatsoever other then the fact he was piss drunk. Cops come, talk to us, and the same guy that got us in trouble got us out of it. He played the marine card and we all got off the hook.

Lesson of the story, always have a marine with you.

When do you get banned from the internet again?

I've known loads of people in the Marines.

All assholes.

The same thing happened to me last night, except instead of getting pulled over and losing my car, I played Rock Band with my brother.

Moral of the story: buy Rock Band.

Unless you happen to be somewhere where Rock Band isn't commercially available, but I can't think of anyone who fits that description.

There's no one who fits that description IMO.

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When do you get banned from the internet again?

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When you grow a cock.

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Originally Posted by icarusfall

I've known loads of people in the Marines.

All assholes.

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I know a couple and both are awesome guys.

I doubt we'd be great friends irl so that's not surprising.

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I know a couple and both are awesome guys.

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fags?

Protip: On weekend nights, cops are looking for drunks and will pull you over for any infraction, small or big--if you've been drinking (or are guilty of some other crime that'd be found out by getting pulled over), do not drive over the speed limit, do not drive with expired tags, do not even drive with a blown tail light.

I spent a day driving with a cop a couple weeks ago and throughout the day he was pointing out reasons to pull people over. You certainly don't have to be driving poorly to get a DUI.

P.S. This isn't necessarily directed at Criticom, for whom I have no help. I think if you play the grandma card you'll get limited driving rights, but I'm sort of assuming the law is reasonable which it isn't always.

While I think Crit fucked up, I also think that the CA law of losing your driving privileges for a year for his infraction is a bit messed up. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, but that law fucking blows if 21 days later he could've just gotten off with a speeding ticket in the exact same situation.

Hire a lawyer and have your court date. Make sure the judge knows all about what you do for your grandmother and make sure the lawyer you hire is good enough that he knows all the judges.

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If that was the worst night of your life, you've had a pretty good life.

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Totally. Imagine someone whining over having to wait at McDonalds. Pathetic. The real hero of this story is the friendly junkie.

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The best lesson you can learn is that actions have consequences and that you are responsible for them. It doesn't matter how close you are to 21, how little alcohol was in your system, or how unlucky you were.

And you're not even remotely the only person who needs to learn this. It's a huge and growing issue in our society.

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I agree with this statement, it's harsh, but it's true.

At some point American kids have lost the ability to own up to their own fuck ups, period.

You fucked up, and I believe you're sorry, and you'll get over this issue it's as simple as that. Lesson learned.

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Totally. Imagine someone whining over having to wait at McDonalds. Pathetic. The real hero of this story is the friendly junkie.

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I don't know why everyone is down on this fact. Yes, I've had a very good life (because I've made it as such, not because it was handed to me), I've stayed out of trouble up until this point. And that's something to be ashamed of? It certainly is not.
Waiting at McDonalds for 3 hours was not why the night was the worst of my life. The getting pulled over, and getting a suspension was the reason it was the worst. I'm sorry this doesn't compare to the presumably shitty life you've had (I have no idea, but you seem to be implying you've had far more things go badly for you).

I understand everyone's feelings on this, and I'm not trying to deny that I fucked up. I never have denied that. Sure, I feel sorry for myself (honestly, despite what any of you say, you would too), but I'm just assessing my options, and hopefully get SOMETHING worked out so I can have restricted use of my license, if not full use.

I appreciate everyone who has given advice. Thanks.

I would gladly trade 2 DAYS at Mcdonalds vs 1 day in jail.

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I would gladly trade 2 DAYS at Mcdonalds vs 1 day in jail.

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So would I.
I only put the whole McDonalds thing in there because it was part of the experience. But I could have kept the thread title the same, and in it just put "I got my license suspended for a year". And It would have been accurate.

If your lawyer is worth a shit you'll get work priviledges and time knocked of your suspension. Ask around, somebody knows the lawyer who knows the judge who can do you a favor, trust me.

Well, I don't have a lawyer yet, and the court date isn't until 2/7/08.
I can request a hearing with the DMV within 10 days of the offense, but those are only to dispute the facts in regards to the offense. Which all are against me.

So yeah, I will apply for a critical need license after this 30 day temporary one expires, and if that doesn't go well, then I'll talk it out with the judge on my court date.

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Well, I don't have a lawyer yet, and the court date isn't until 2/7/08.
I can request a hearing with the DMV within 10 days of the offense, but those are only to dispute the facts in regards to the offense. Which all are against me.

So yeah, I will apply for a critical need license after this 30 day temporary one expires, and if that doesn't go well, then I'll talk it out with the judge on my court date.

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Not too sure how California works, but if you lawyer up, you can push that date way forward. WTF about the right to a speedy trial anyway? 3 months? Jesus.

You'll want to ensure you get credit for time spent not driving, and also make sure you opt for community service, judges love that shit.

if all else fails, pray to Mrs Ramone, she is a faith healer.

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Not too sure how California works, but if you lawyer up, you can push that date way forward. WTF about the right to a speedy trial anyway? 3 months? Jesus.

You'll want to ensure you get credit for time spent not driving, and also make sure you opt for community service, judges love that shit.

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Yeah, I know having a lawyer for the court date will help, but if I lawyer up too soon, it could run several thousand dollars. And that's several thousand dollars I don't have. I don't have anyone to pay for these things for me, so I can only work within my means. And if that means getting a lawyer right before my date, or representing myself, then yeah, I got to do what I have to do, and take what comes to me.

IF you represent yourself, you're fucked, period.

Of course maybe you'll get lucky and the cop won't show up to the court date.

That's a fallacy, he doesn't have to be there.

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Of course maybe you'll get lucky and the cop won't show up to the court date.

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Yeah, but will that change the suspension? I don't believe it will, since the DMV will have already been notified, and it would already be in affect. I think it would only make a difference with the speeding ticket.

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That's a fallacy, he doesn't have to be there.

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I've had a very good life (because I've made it as such, not because it was handed to me)

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I love how you actually believe, that you are in control of your fate by adhering to some moral standard. Ill fate usually strikes the least deserving. But, it's all good. I'm glad nothing worse happened to ya. I speed frequently, just haven't been caught yet. ;)

Too lazy to read the thread. Don't speed when your under 21 and drunk. Even "sober as fuck" The extra 10 minutes you cost yourself is not that big a deal.

I'm shocked at people thinking 85 is too fast more than Crit's decision. I don't even have a license and whenever I hit the highway 85 is cake.

When going before a judge without a lawyer remember that the judge is/was a lawyer, too.

Blessing in disguise imo.

This is a great thread, and I agree with most of the hardliners, you made a foolish choice and you are going to have to deal with some tough times, but if you are wise, you will come out a much better person in the end.