PROOF BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I imagine that's a grueling "art".
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PROOF BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!
I imagine that's a grueling "art".
Size is irrelavent to wanting an advantage, big or small your shit can still get fucked up. It's nice that you're big but what are you going to do if I pull a blade out and shove it in your neck? If you said die, you'd be right.
I guess I just take any form of aggression as life-threatening ever since I've been stabbed (and that was a really long time ago) and will look for the fastest way to take someone out, small or big.
You kick at a guys balls and miss, which Kid Nemo will attest happens about 50% of the time, you'll get your ass whipped.
If I ever ran into a guy like that, I'd shit myself. But he's one out of how many millions of frat assholes one has to deal with when going to a bar or just blacks in general?Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
Nobody's stabbing me. Even if they're all aggro 'n stuff.
I thought the same thing. How naive I was.
That's the main thing right there. Just because you send a kick crotchward doesn't mean it hits the magic spot and you get to yell "that's my purse" as you run off to tell TNL how you bested some huge thug. Once you've thrown the kick and missed you've sent a clearly defined message that you don't play fair. Maybe the other guy likes to play fair and people that don't get him mad every time. Then you're stabbed again "Razor Ramon".Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
I either fight like it's a fight or I leave.
I'm also starting to think that maybe we have a fight mixed up with a mugging or some sort of out 'n out assault. I'm talking about a fight.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
And it's not as if I'm gonna try and hit someone in the beans and then just stop trying. It's also not the only thing I know how to do. Like I said, I try to hit people in 3 places to stop the fight as soon as possible.
What would you recommend? Hitting them in the face? The stomach? Where the fuck are you people hitting someone that's so much more effective than those three places?
10 bucks says Ramon throws his man purse at any guy who yells at him, runs off screaming like a bitch, and brags to TNL anyway.
Chin and liver.
No, Kidney's, Sternum, or Nose are by far the most effective places to hit someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
Or the inside of the knee, the top of the foot, or the ol' finger in the eye. You have multiple outs my man.
What I'm trying to tell you is that it's a streetfight, there aren't any rules so how can it be fair or unfair? I used to box. Boxing had rules and if you didn't follow the rules you're going to be penalized. But the street is no makeshift ring. Out in the street I could be carrying any number of concealed weapons or grab something laying around. The other guy is probably thinking the same thing but I'm not going to let him get the chance. A kick in the sack, punch in the throat, gouging the eyes, or going for the knees are all ways to grab the advantage and make sure the fight stays on your side.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
In the street, fighting isn't ruly. It's some nasty shit that for some is just unavoidable. I don't fight because I enjoy it, I fight because I have to make sure I could see another sunrise. And through my experience, anything is possible in a fight where I could end up dead. So you can fight with your rules and shit but to someone like me they just don't exist so I have a better chance of leaving that fight alive.
Oh shut up, like your ass is beefing with thugs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Well sure, I'll tear your fucking eyes out if I can get to them. I'll also bite out chunks of your flesh if we end up on the ground grappling at each other (Done this. People stop.)
Also, I said knee.
Multiple ins, multiple outs.
I always like when somebody goes on a message board and says "I'd just do that and that and this and no way am I not walking out of that alley". Like a nadkicker who thinks he's all loco and shit can't be beat.
Test this theory if and when you meet me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
This is, to me, the worst place to hit someone. They could easily die from a hit to the nose and you'll be facing manslaughter charges. I only like to resort to this if I honestly feel the dude is going to kill me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
Hey icarusfall!
BITE ME!!!
lolol
The key is to stay off the group unless you know what you're doing. If I were stupid enough to fight Kid Nemo at a TNL get together you can bet your ass I'm jabbing and circling.
Rich and Cow have both seen exactly where I live. You can ask them if you'd like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
Ramon has reached the NEXT LEVEL!
Toughness +1 (-5)
Fronting +22 (44)
Yeah, and I lived in Detroit, doesn't mean I left my apartment and found the first thug to get mugged by.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
I assume you know how to survive and avoid these situations.
I like how kidnemo has said nothing. He is probably taking notes so he can destroy you all in epic mortal combat.
He already knows how.
I don't think I'm loco. I just don't want someone to hit me so I'd try and take every advantage possible. Is it possible someone could beat the shit out of me? Absolutely, but in my experience these are the best ways to deal with someone who wants to hurt you. Hurt them far worse than they are prepared to hurt you.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
ok, EPIC MORTAL COMBAT SQUARED
bitch
This is Razor's dadQuote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
I still think we're (or maybe it's just me) mixed up here. To me a fight is something that is like an old timey altercation between two dudes who know they're going to fight and they go out in the parking lot and duke it out. May the best man win. It's pretty much fun. Weapons shouldn't be involved.
Then there's assault where some motherfucker(s) just busts out of someplace and tries to kill you or take your shit through violent means.
Anything goes when it's the latter. Even the nadkicks.
Of course, but they're not always avoidable no matter how careful you are. For the most part, I've already gone through the shit I did for people thinking I was white instead of Puerto Rican. (I'm very light-skinned) That's where a lot of my experience comes from. Now I'm not bothered much (if at all) because I'm not exactly small anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
But there are questionable people that hang out in front of my apartment building where the landlord refuses to do anything about and the police are already stretched thin in this city as it is. I have to go out there and clear it up for my sisters when they visit because they can get grabby.
I'm not trying to tote any tough guy card here, I'm only explaining situations where I've personally been in and how they can go very wrong if you follow any type of guidelines in a fight.
PS: I still think it's hilarious that Rich turned off the rap music in his car when coming to get me from my apartment.
Fighting has never been fun for me PaCrappa.
LOL@ RICH
Yep, this is a very different situation. Fights I've been in were just started up out of the blue. We don't normally hold a forum to discuss exactly when and where we're going to fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
I mean it happens at the bar. Ya know, shit talking. It becomes obvious and then it's fight time. I'm sure this has happened before in NYC.
Yeah but they don't abide by any form of rules. It happens, shit talking occurs, and then someone throws a punch. Whoever is left laying on the ground is normally hit by a pool cue or glass before the bouncer removes them
It's the reason why the bar I used to frequent (Cheapshots in NYC) changed to plastic cups for everything.
Hey bro I haven't been in a fight where it was two guys angry at each other and having a real fight on the pavement since I was 22 in 1994. It was a sweet KO victory though :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
bullet points!
-I like genki attacking that guys sack
-re: guy getting hit in the balls/throat. Anyone can learn to have a pain tolerance to something but that doesn't mean it won't hurt.
-re: pain tolerance guy - you can't build up a tolerance to getting choked out
-it looks like to me, TO ME, there is some definite tough guy fronting in here
I would honestly love to film up a little sparring session with anybody from TNL and post it. It would make a great thread and would be tons of fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
I am curious as to where you are getting the bolded information from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
See, I've never really been in that situation. I just tell them "Whatever you say, chief" and go about my business.
"Cheapshots". LOL, sounds aptly named.
It's what my trainer used to tell me when I boxed. He said if I hit them at a certain angle coming up, they could go down for good. I never questioned it since I didn't know shit about boxing then so I just went with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
Also, I'm trying to refrain from any tough guy bullshit. I just want to give my experience with violence and how I've had to deal with those situations.
:lol: I didn't even think of the irony.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
There is a popular myth about the "nose bone" shooting up into the brain and killing a person which is totally untrue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
If it's so dangerous to hit someone on the nose and kill them, where are the recorded boxing/kickboxing/mma deaths from it?
Just my opinion of course.
Guys get busted noses in professional fights of various types all the time. I think the nose cartilage to the brain resulting in death must be a myth.
edit: THe KId beat me to the punch. Ouch, bad pun. Ban me plz
As am I. I just didn't like the way icarusfall said what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
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Originally Posted by Bailey
hehe. i see what i did there.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
Maybe a poor choice of words. :/ I'm certainly not some tough guy - but I've been in a few fights and these are my experiences.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
HEy, ya know, fair enough. I just hate to hear anybody speaking in definites about a fight. Shit happens and that's about as far as we can predict. I have strategies of my own but no way do I think that means I'm all set in any situation.
Here's the definite win strategy for a fight: use a gun. It can only be tied if the other person has a firearm, but the bigger gun wins.
too much rap imo
Straight outta' Compton...
MC Ren controls the automatic
you losed
I have these stickers. They're fantastic.
http://www.burlesquedesign.com/store...ickers2007.jpg
Can you pls mail me one?
It's crazy to me how often that people get into fights.
Short of a little kid who is stuck in a situation they can't change, pretty much everyone person has the ability to not get into a altercation for their entire lives.
It's all about choices.
I personally choose to not put myself in a enviorment that has the potential for violence.
tHEY'D BE MORE FANTASTIC IF YOU GAVE THEM TO ME
Yah I will get my ass kicked fast so I try to avoid eye contact and walk/run the other way.
Here for stickers. Right side about half way down. $5.50 shipped. THere's a few packs to choose from.
effin capslock!
I'm with Nemo. The fact that I haven't been in a fight for any reason other than sport since 1994 is not because I'm a pussy. It's because I'm smart and can see a fight coming. So I generally make it a point to go elsewhere. I don't need trouble with the law, don't need to break my hand on another guy's dome (done this before) and I sure as fuck don't need to be maimed or killed.
Didn't have to use my AK.
Damn right it was a good day.
http://www.comet7.com/images/misc/tnl_blimp.pngQuote:
Originally Posted by icarusfall
Confirmed.
OFF TOPIC: I just checked that washed ashore last night and it's really cool.
"Let's Fight like gentlemen."
I kinda feel sorry for the guy who picks a fight thinking it's just some typical macho chest beating BS, while the other guy has a more pragmatic attitude and gouges his eyes out or stabs him. Not everyone is out to prove something, and there are a lot of people out there who look at any fight as a kill or be killed situation.
The toughguy posturing needs to stop. Even the most skilled fighter who can take the guy to the ground and own him outright is susceptible to a life ending beating when there are more than two people involved. Dominating someone on the ground doesn't get you very far when his buddy runs up and kicks you in the face or stomps on your skull.
Common sense dictates that the only good strategy is to avoid a street fight whenever possible and failing that, fight your way to an escape using any means necessary. Anyone who tells you otherwise is fronting or stupid.
What the fuck are you people fighting about? I haven't been in a fight since I was 12, where a massive 13 year old beat the shit out of me for no reason. I haven't even come close to anything that resembles a fight in.. Jesus, I don't think, ever.
Thanks homey I really appreciate it!Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
I hope to have enough time in the next couple of weeks to sneak in a big ole update for it 'cause I have a ton of ideas running around.
I got attacked by some wannabe crypt because of the color of my hair, I took a running punch to my nose and walked off. It bled a lot but wasn't broken, didn't really hurt at all. But the next two days breathing sucked. That's pretty much the closest thing to a fight I've ever been in.
You should have gave him a spinebuster followed up by a macho-man elbow off the top picnic table.
that must have been horrifyingQuote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
http://the-nextlevel.com/board/attac...1&d=1197043208
Anyway, let's get this trainwreck back on track and talk about woman beating.
When my wife and I were just dating, in the middle of a huge argument she gave me carte blanche to pop her in the face. I didn't do it, mind you, but it was mighty tempting
Well women when it comes to that kind of shit tend to be emotionally retarded.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rated E
I'd be lying, as would every "noble" guy here as well if they can't think of a situation where they had to stop themselves from hitting a woman. I never have, nor is it in my nature too. But the situation most certainly needs some clarifying.
Abuse is one thing, and most certainly a two way street (no matter what "Lifetime: Television for beaten and raped women" has taught you). The way I've seen some women behave, or detected there intentions in certain situations, well I'd certainly excuse the punch after the fact. During it, obviously it would be misinterpreted by everyone who witnessed it and the gentleman in question would find himself in an unfortunate situation. But certainly there is almost always something else going on, and I am not about to let a girl stab me or attack me because it would be unfair if I fought back.
Why is the first guy picking this fight again? Being from the "let's leave the girl moves to the chicks" camp, I can honestly say that I have never in my life picked a fight. I've finished a couple without bringing nads, eyes, or throats into it so I feel comfortable enough being how I am. If someone is actually attempting to kill me then I have to follow suit. It's very simple and I think we had already arrived at this conclusion before it was mentioned that MC Ren controls the automatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by kedawa
Every fight begins with something pointless or stupid.
The dumber you are, the more likely you probably are to get into a fight.
Seconded. Be smart and stay healthy.
Women beating men isn't as uncommon as people seem to think. Women cops are among the worst offenders, oddly enough. You'd think cops would be the first ones to tire of domestic violence, seeing as how they waste half their time dealing with dysfunctional retard couples.
Not to mention emotional abuse is just as bad if not worse than physical abuse.
I had a friend (not my friend anymore mind you) who would swerve on the road when he was mad at his girlfriend and said it wasn't abuse it was a "scare tactic." I would beat the shit out of him for that but I hadn't and haven't seen him in a couple of years.
I meant to make a point in there pertaining to women emotionally abusing men as well.
Back on topic here, I had a friend that would routinely get beat down by his wife and the best he could muster was to moan to her parents. He wouldn't even leave the stupid drunken bitch. He'd show up wherever with a shiner and all his friends knew how it happened. The first time or two it was good for a laugh but after awhile we had to leave it alone because it was obviously a pretty ugly state of affairs at their house. I ultimately stopped hanging with him during thsi period and have no idea if he's still with her or not.
People pick fights because they're drunk or an asshole, usually. It's great that you've been able to defend yourself while holding back, but that doesn't work for everyone. At the end of the day, all that matters is that you get away with as little harm done to you as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaCrappa
You think fighting with every tool you have at your disposal is for women, but if I were a foot taller and 100lbs heavier, I could just as easily call punches and kicks girly moves and win every fight with nothing but bear hugs and pelvic thrusts. Would that make me more of a man than you?
As I mentioned in the quoted post, we have arrived at a more than reasonable conclusion to all of this hypothetical street fighting stuff awhile back. Which was then repeated toward the end of the quoted post.
I'll say it again: I have fought and won exactly the way I describe. If it was to escalate to the point where I thought a guy was literally trying to kill me I would have to ramp up my own ruthlessness to match. Simple.
Now that it's been said a third time is there anything left that needs to be explained to you?
ThisQuote:
Originally Posted by kedawa
Yeah. Fine. You're a winner. Put it on your resume. Write if you get work.
Nope. "Emotional abuse" is just code for "I'm too much of a pussy to walk out of my dysfunctional relationship."Quote:
Originally Posted by Thief Silver
Couldn't the same be said of physical abuse? There's no excuse for putting up with abuse of any kind.Quote:
Originally Posted by burgundy
Show me proof of your "fact" or don't post in this thread, you've done nothing to back your facts to this point and I'm growing tired of your points.Quote:
Originally Posted by kedawa
I don't know about women cops, but I do think women beat up men alot more than reported since most men will just let it go. Hell, my mother punched and bitch slapped my dad every time they got into an argument (but my dad never returns the favor), same thing with my ex-sister-in-law (who is a total psycho).
I don't dispute women are violent, most of us have dealt with it in our past, I dispute that "woman cops" account for the majority of domestic abuse cases amongst the police.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingoffighters
Hey there's a good point, if you walked in and witnessed your dad smacking the shit out of your mom, would TNL be all like "yeah, she had is coming!"
90% no, this place fronts like crazy.
My girlfriend used to date some guy who beat her up when she was 20 or so. Apparently the story goes that he cheated on her and then she broke up with him and he beat the shit out of her right in front of his cousin and from then on he was constantly violent. The guy is a major league drug dealer or something (Italian/Black guy) who had shitloads of money and would give her a lot so I supposed that's why she put up with it. A few months ago she went to a concert with some of her friends and she left early to go to work and she saw him and he just walked up to her and when she wasn't having it he hit her in the face and just walked away. He's a big guy supposedly but I pleaded with her to let me do something about it but she wouldn't tell me how to find him (my mom even went as far to tell her to make sure I don't know how to find the guy because they both know for a fact I'd put ten slugs in the guy if I had the chance).
If I ever see this man when I'm with her and he puts his hands on me or her, I'm taking my car key and stabbing him right in his goddamned throat and when he goes down choking on his own blood I'm going to stomp the shit out of his throat/head and ensure that he never breaths again. I'm certainly no tough guy, I have a very violent outburst when I get angry but the only thing I ever do is scream real loud and maybe knock something over or punch something, but I don't like being violent towards people in general. With that being said, I'm crazy enough and I believe that certain people should be permenantly extinguished from the gene pool that I would kill this man, in public even.
Assholes like that give us all bad names man.
My dad hit my mom twice while they were married. The first time she went into the kitchen and grabbed a knife then chased him into the bedroom. The second time he slapped her across the face and she slapped him right back. They both had big bruises on their faces for a few days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
See, now this is real life shit right here and I support this course of action.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
edit: oh yeah, lest the softheaded suspect me of fronting or something, I'd like to say that nothing like what Gohron is describing has ever happened to me. I don't know exactly what I'd do if it did. I'm just saying I can see where Gohron is coming from and endorse his gameplan.
Sorry teacher. I'll do better next time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
I can't find the exact study that I got that from (it's hard as hell to find since boolean searches don't work well in this context) but here's at least some evidence that police in general are more abusive, and it stands to reason that the same is true of female officers with civilian boyfriends/husbands.
If you want more evidence than that, you'll have to find it yourself. I don't know what other 'points' you're going on about so I can't help you out there.
http://www.womenandpolicing.org/violenceFS.asp
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Two studies have found that at least 40% of police officer families experience domestic violence, (1, 2) in contrast to 10% of families in the general population.(3) A third study of older and more experienced officers found a rate of 24% (4), indicating that domestic violence is 2-4 times more common among police families than American families in general.
:tu:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gohron
QFT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bailey
You spelled this wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
This too.Quote:
Originally Posted by buttcheeks
You are better not to get involved in that shit beyond calling the cops Calliander, children's services can call you as witness and then that guy is going to fuck you up.
Maybe, but on the other hand the guy might be a total pussy and that's why he beats on his wife and kids.
If you are beating up your wife and kids you are a pussy regardless of if you are the biggest, baddest, toughest, m-fer in the entire world.Quote:
Originally Posted by kedawa
IBTN, but once you get involved in the family home life, you never know how some asshole will react.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kidnemo
Yeah but all Calliander would have to do is kick him in the nuts. ;)
LOL
I was offered a job with ACS in The Bronx, and as I understood it I had to go to the homes of families and take away their children without any security or police. I was offered this job last night while I was at the bar. I'm piss poor and this job offered $40k off the bat with the ability to make $70k in my first year. I turned it down. I don't want to get shot.
70k in NY is like 30k anywhere else, good decision.